Strongest Descendants Of Hagormo: Senju or Uchiha

[KidGamer65]

Lol. And how does Hashirama break out of it if no one knows he's being controlled?

Lmao just stop. Your argument is idiotic. Genjutsu disrupts the chakra flow, at least 3 people here can sense chakra and 2 of them are Sage Mode users. That and it'll be pretty damn obvious when Shisui's eye loses it's power and Hashirama starts fighting against them.

However salamander has already actually shown that KA is too powerful to be broken by outside influences, thus Hashirama is controlled.

 

[Ansatsuken]

This is an interesting thread with a lot of well constructed arguments, and it's definitely a subject I think about often. Obviously, the answer to this question is highly subjective, and I don't believe there is a single right answer. I like reading everyone's opinion on the matter, though, and I hope this discussion goes on.

 

[Edogawa]

-Kinkaku and Ginkaku aren't related to the Senju.
-Naruto and Nagato aren't from the Senju, either. The Uzumaki Clan are a separate from the Senju, even though they're relatives.

Hashirama is only relevant from the Senju. The rest are fodders. The Uchiha's have Madara who is equal to Hashirama; Shisui unbreakable KA which Hashirama can't break from it; Obito's hax Kamui. The answer is obvious.

 

[salamander uchiha]

Because KA severed his connection with Kabuto which was remote. Kurama is inside of Naruto. That's obviously not the same thing, however that definitely does prevent Naruto from breaking Hashirama out via sharing his chakra.

So the Uchiha would beat the Senju after all.

Even during their close range battle Kabuto didn't try to break Itachi's flow and regain control of him. Kabuto would've definitely done that if it was possible confirming its not possible and doesn't work on the same principles.

I can't disagree with the bold that wasn't even debatable.

 

[Made in Heaven]

Senju win.

KA is overrated. Itachi casted the order of "protect Konoha" on himself, yet went on to leave Anko's dying body there without ensuring her safety and didn't do anything to Sasuke despite him claiming he would potentially destroy Konoha. In fact, even under the order to "protect konoha" Itachi says that he would love Sasuke no matter what he did, so again, KA isn't a 100% mind control. It's more like an influence that can still be fought against.

Couldn't even work on Mifune. Now add sensory abilities like Sage Mode and Kurama.

 

[Ansatsuken]

Senju leading the vote so Senju are the strongest here

 

[Rikudou Tobi]

Senju leading the vote so Senju are the strongest here

Biased votes don't mean anything. Senjus have more fans than the Uchihas and Hashirama basically has more than half of the base.
The fact that Op introduced six path versions into this fight gives Uchihas an automatic win which I'm sure you would agree upon.

But like some people they did not read Op's post on the first page, so they think It's a non genetically implanted fight giving senjus the win without carefully paying attention to the thread given people's bias for Hashirama anyways while looking at Naruto as this forever Sasuke deadlock.
But common sense tells you that Itachi and Shisui are there. There unbeatable-unavoidable genjutsu that beats you no matter how strong you are is just a guarantee win for the Uchiha because Kishi gave no counters to KA and Tsukyomi for nin Uchihas. The only person who would have a chance against it is Naruto and even that's debatable.

So this poll just let's us know which clan is liked the most. There isn't an actual valid reason or a strong debate why the senjus or uchihas would win in this fight in this thread.

 

[Tauren Chieftain]

That moment when you realise that every major Uchiha needed portion of Senju DNA/Power to stay alive and relevant.(Madara,Obito and Sasuke all have Hashirama DNA).

Senju and day.

Tobirama made Uchiha´s Senju playthings-manga fact.

 

[Ansatsuken]

Biased votes don't mean anything. Senjus have more fans than the Uchihas and Hashirama basically has more than half of the base.
The fact that Op introduced six path versions into this fight gives Uchihas an automatic win which I'm sure you would agree upon.

But like some people they did not read Op's post on the first page, so they think It's a non genetically implanted fight giving senjus the win without carefully paying attention to the thread given people's bias for Hashirama anyways while looking at Naruto as this forever Sasuke deadlock.
But common sense tells you that Itachi and Shisui are there. There unbeatable-unavoidable genjutsu that beats you no matter how strong you are is just a guarantee win for the Uchiha because Kishi gave no counters to KA and Tsukyomi for nin Uchihas. The only person who would have a chance against it is Naruto and even that's debatable.

So this poll just let's us know which clan is liked the most. There isn't an actual valid reason or a strong debate why the senjus or uchihas would win in this fight in this thread.

The fact that you take my post seriously when other people know whats up

Okey I can take that maybe you dont know me really well :lol

 

[Nick01]

In conclusion, The Senju takes this. No contest.

Salty faps in denial could just cry themselves to sleep.

 

[Warlocks]

Nagato and Madara can't be present at the same time, since Nagato was using Madara's eyes. Remove Nagato or take away his Rinnegan since it's Uchiha's power(madara's eyes).

Rinnegan=Senju + Uchiha's power

 

[itachi4real]

Hashirama solo's

This....

 

[lndra]

What's stated in the Manga TBH

 

[Styles]

Ginkaku and Shinkaku aren't Senju's and although Nagato is he have no special power.

They're on par. If it's everyone at their strongest Uchiha wins.

 

[Char Aznable]

What's stated in the Manga TBH

Itachi stated the Senju were the most powerful.

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And Hashirama said this when he was telling Sasuke about Madara.

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[lndra]

Itachi stated the Senju were the most powerful.

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And Hashirama said this when he was telling Sasuke about Madara.

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The Data-Book also says the Senju were the strongest during the Feudal Era. Probably b/c of Hashirama himself

 

[Char Aznable]

The Data-Book also says the Senju were the strongest during the Feudal Era. Probably b/c of Hashirama himself

Possibly. But weren't the Senju winning the conflict against the Uchiha when Hashi and Mads were children?

What I think gave the Senju the edge was their jutsus. Senju is supposed to mean 1000 skills or something of that nature.


Hashirama's Mokuton jutsus and the various applications.

Uzumaki Adamantine Chains and their powerful Fuinjutsus.

Chakra Enhanced Strength - Presumable created by Hashi and passed down to Tsuna

Edo Tensei, Kage Bushin, Multiplying Paper Bomb, Flying Thunder God were all created by Tobirama.
The Ninja Academy, ANBU, Military Police and Chunin Exams were also Tobirama's creations.

Tsunade adapted the medical corp, and had it medic ninja placed on all future squads during the 2nd Shinobi War.

Naruto created several rasengan variants with and without element natures.


With Uchiha, it's all fire style jutsus, shuriken jutsus and sharingan jutsus. However, as Naruto, Tobirama, Danzo, Minato, Kakashi, Guy, Kabuto and Oro all demonstrated, a clever person can learn the sharingan's weaknesses and develop strategies to combat an Uchiha.

 

[To Whatever]

I think Uchiha are stronger.

 

[Mellanoma]

lmao half the Uchiha team are pumped up on Senju DNA lol

 

[To Whatever]

Uchiha because Sarada solos