Strongest character without borrowed powers?

[Mori Jin]

I think so too. Gai is definitely first. Obito comes in second with Hashirama at 3rd.

Nah obito had Hashriama's cells which stopped his eyes from going blind he would be fodder without his Mangekyo just like before he got his sharingan. But hashirama should be second or first on that list.

 

[Flawž]

Nah obito had Hashriama's cells which stopped his eyes from going blind he would be fodder without his Mangekyo just like before he got his sharingan. But hashirama should be second or first on that list.

Obito still has MS without hashi's DNA. Same deal with Itachi. Just because he'll eventually get blind, doesn't mean we can't use him here.

 

[Flawž]

Borrowed? Sasuke took Itachi's eyes as a prize for winning a fight.

Sasuke is a transmigrant, he was supposed to have the Rinnegan the moment he was born.

None of them is borrowed.

Sasuke doesn't get EMS without Itachi. It's borrowed powers.

Madara biting hashi counts lol he got it by himself

Lmao true. :lol

 

[Mori Jin]

Obito still has MS without hashi's DNA. Same deal with Itachi. Just because he'll eventually get blind, doesn't mean we can't use him here.

But he still wouldn't be on that list at least not that high up what with him being and all.

 

[Vulpini]

Sasuke doesn't get EMS without Itachi. It's borrowed powers.



Lmao true. :lol

How it is borrowed if Sasuke ripped Itachi's eyes out after killing him? Sasuke won a fight and took Itachi's eyes as a trophy, to use them as he pleases.

That isn't borrowing.

 

[Itachi The L Giver]

Borrowed? Sasuke took Itachi's eyes as a prize for winning a fight.

Sasuke is a transmigrant, he was supposed to have the Rinnegan the moment he was born.

None of them is borrowed.

I think it's been established Itachi wanted his little brother to have it and let him win. Even so it's still a borrowed power.

 

[Jiren]

Itachi

 

[Flawž]

How it is borrowed if Sasuke ripped Itachi's eyes out after killing him? Sasuke won a fight and took Itachi's eyes as a trophy, to use them as he pleases.

That isn't borrowing.

Without Itachi, Sasuke can't get EMS. This means he needs Itachi, he needs itachi's eyes to get EMS. It's not his power. If it is, he would be able to unlock EMS by himself without relying on Itachi.

But he still wouldn't be on that list at least not that high up what with him being and all.

Name a few people who can counter kamui? :lol

 

[Holy God]

Hagoromo (Non-host), Hamura, Ashura, and Indra haven't taken in external powers.

 

[Flawž]

Hagoromo (Non-host), Hamura, Ashura, and Indra haven't taken in external powers.

Yup. As far as we know, they should count.

 

[Uchiha Joe]

Sasuke with MS Sharingan.

 

[deadtor93]

Hashirama, \if we don't take the Ootsuki family into consideration

 

[Mad Titan Thanos]

8 gate Gai is first rest I dont care

 

[Jokule67]

Well i am speaking hypothetically. You don't have to include him if you don't want to.

Yeah hypothetically he may be the most powerful easily.

 

[Jokule67]

Borrowed? Sasuke took Itachi's eyes as a prize for winning a fight.

Sasuke is a transmigrant, he was supposed to have the Rinnegan the moment he was born.

None of them is borrowed.

Its borrowed, meaning external power. Yes he was meant to gain it.... from someone else. Get it?

 

[HENI]

he's using Izuna's eyes for EMS.

He gave them to Madara. He didn't lend them. That's not borrowing.

 

[Mori Jin]

Without Itachi, Sasuke can't get EMS. This means he needs Itachi, he needs itachi's eyes to get EMS. It's not his power. If it is, he would be able to unlock EMS by himself without relying on Itachi.



Name a few people who can counter kamui? :lol

Naruto and other sage mode users. Minato. kakashi. Hasirama. Madara. sasuke. Gai. Kaguya.

 

[Flawž]

He gave them to Madara. He didn't lend them. That's not borrowing.

Still an external source of power.

Naruto and other sage mode users. Minato. kakashi. Hasirama. Madara. sasuke. Gai. Kaguya.

We're talking about characters with their own original powers.

- Minato is a close one but he loses to adult MS Obito.
- Kakashi has Obito's eyes so he doesn't count
- Hashirama is also a close one. Could go either way.
- MS Madara loses to obito
- MS sasuke also loses to obito
- Gai beats MS Obito
- Kaguya doesn't count.

 

[Dizzldot]

How it is borrowed if Sasuke ripped Itachi's eyes out after killing him? Sasuke won a fight and took Itachi's eyes as a trophy, to use them as he pleases.

That isn't borrowing.

Sasuke didnt rip his eyes out obito did, and with that logic, minato defeating the kyuubi and giving it to naruto is the same thing

 

[Mori Jin]

Still an external source of power.



We're talking about characters with their own original powers.

- Minato is a close one but he loses to adult MS Obito.
- Kakashi has Obito's eyes so he doesn't count
- Hashirama is also a close one. Could go either way.
- MS Madara loses to obito
- MS sasuke also loses to obito
- Gai beats MS Obito
- Kaguya doesn't count.

1. Seriously doubt Minato loses to an adult Obito. He did get him with The Flying Thunder God in the war. He could have just as easily slit his throat and the marking never dissappear. Plot saved him.

2. Yeah kakashi don't count.

3. It really depends on the situation with Hashirama.

4. We don't know how strong MS Madara was so we can't really say.

5. Yeah obito is stronger.

6. Yeah gai wins this.

Obito does have hashirama's cells so that shouldn't count.