Strongest character without borrowed powers?

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Hiruzen, 5 elements, 5's in Nin/Gen Tai even in his old age, said to be the Strongest of part 1 5 kage in his old weakened state, Hype as history's strongest, hype Strongest hokage, Said to of shown more talent than tobirama even at a young age, Hailed as God of shinobi.

He's definietly strong but again, hes all hype. From the feats he has, he's up there, but definitely not top 3.

Gai, Obito, Hashirama

I agree. :cool:
 

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Gai

Hashirama

Godtachi

MS Madara

Tobirama

SM Naruto

Minato

Jiraiya

MS Sasuke
 

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Have you crossed your mind that if without external power these character would have much more time to train something else ?

Without Kurama, Naruto will have his parent, Jiraiya around him to make him become top class ninja
Without Itachi eyes, Sasuke will go blind and die
Without Hashi's meat, Madara will die also
 

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Have you crossed your mind that if without external power these character would have much more time to train something else ?

Without Kurama, Naruto will have his parent, Jiraiya around him to make him become top class ninja
Without Itachi eyes, Sasuke will go blind and die
Without Hashi's meat, Madara will die also

We're talking about without borrowed powers. EMS sasuke with Itachi's eyes doesn't count. Madara with Hashirama's DNA doesn't count as well.

Naruto could've been very strong without Kurama and his parents being alive, but that's another topic for another day.

Gai

Hashirama

Godtachi

MS Madara

Tobirama

SM Naruto

Minato

Jiraiya

MS Sasuke

Good list, almost negged you for the "goditachi" tho.
 

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-8th gate Gai
-Hashirama
-Tobirama
-Minato/MS Itachi
-MS Madara/Young Hiruzen
-Fusion Sage mode Naruto
-Jiriaya
-MS Obito
-MS Sasuke
 

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-8th gate Gai
-Hashirama
-Tobirama
-Minato/MS Itachi
-MS Madara/Young Hiruzen
-Fusion Sage mode Naruto
-Jiriaya
-MS Obito
-MS Sasuke

Is your list in order? Zzz
 

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Forgot Tobirama. That was a fail :lol

And I'm just using plain MS obito with both eyes since that's his own powers. Hypothetically.



I added MS Madara.

EMS isn't a borrowed power.. Why not put Rinnegan Madara. He didn't borrow those powers.
 

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EMS isn't a borrowed power.. Why not put Rinnegan Madara. He didn't borrow those powers.

:lmao: he's using Izuna's eyes for EMS.
 

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He's definietly strong but again, hes all hype. From the feats he has, he's up there, but definitely not top 3.

@ Bold.

Well MS madara and DMS obito without Senju dna and rikudou chakra are pretty much featless.
 

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EMS isn't a borrowed power.. Why not put Rinnegan Madara. He didn't borrow those powers.

He needed hashirama's power to unlock the rinnegan in the first place. Take away what madara got from hashirama = no rinnegan
 

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@ Bold.

Well MS madara and DMS obito without Senju dna and rikudou chakra are pretty much featless.

We still know what Madara's capable of. We had a few flashbacks that backup his hype.

MS Obito is canon tho. I just gave him kakashi's eye, that's all. But Obito is hypothetical. Just for fun.
 

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can't believe people still classify kurama as a borrowed power.
 

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Yall forgetting Minato
 

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can't believe people still classify kurama as a borrowed power.

Naruto and Kurama are two different entities. You could argue that it's Naruto's power, but half the base will disagree with you.
 

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EMS Sasuke
Rinnegan Sasuke
 

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Jiraiya
Tobirama
Hashirama
Gai
 

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Seems like an interesting topic. List some of the strongest characters without borrowed power. Meaning power that they achieved by themselves.

In no particular order:

-Obito with both Kamui eyes. (hypothetically speaking, what if)
-MS Itachi
-Minato
-Hashirama
-MS Sasuke
-Sage mode Naruto
-Jiriaya
-8th gate Gai
-Tobirama
-MS Madara

Put these guys in order. Also add anyone that i forgot to mention.

Gai
Madara
Hashimara
Itachi
Minato
Tbirrama
Naruto
Sauske
J-man

I don't put Obito because there's not what if in my life.
 

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Borrowed power pal.

Borrowed? Sasuke took Itachi's eyes as a prize for winning a fight.

Sasuke is a transmigrant, he was supposed to have the Rinnegan the moment he was born.

None of them is borrowed.
 

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Madara biting hashi counts lol he got it by himself
 
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