stop under rating tobirama senju and here is why

[HiddenSound]

Bro they were part of the 20 others bro.

OP said Tobirama beat Gin & Kin

 

[enditallsin]

who here actually has the balls to underrate a man who used..
space time ninjutsus and was highly skilled at them...
mastered in genjutsus
created edo tensei
could use high level water techniques in places with no water using only a single hand seal..
plus his sword of the thunder god that hes mastered despite of its nature opposing his own....
soo...who the hell is stupid enough to underrate him he could whip some of the strongest characters, he probably got trolled to..

 

[Anorien16]

As for deaths in battle:

1.Third Raikage died in battle. Reality: He died fighting 10000 fodder for 3 days and night.
2. Hashirama died in battle. Reality: ???????
3. Tobirama died in battle. Reality: Fighting 20 elite people at a mid/advanced age.
4. Madara died by what? Theory: Lost to his urge to end his life after reading Twilight.

 

[TobisPawn]

so 20 fodders vs kage lvl ninja, and kage lvl ninja died? hmm.

20 fodders? 20 Jounin* including Kinkaku and Ginkaku.

 

[razinzell]

You forgot that he created edo tensei and FTG.

And people say that he sucks because he lost to 20 elite jounin? I don't think anybody could last against all of the 5 kage guards + Kakashi, Guy, Asuma, Kurenai, Inoichi, Choza, Shikaku, Neji, Dan, and Hiashi.

 

[nater]

You forgot that he created... FTG.

Care to link to your source on that?

And people say that he sucks because he lost to 20 elite jounin?

Yeah, I don't get where elite = fodder.

 

[razinzell]

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I looked it up and I was wrong but he was very skilled in space time techniques.

 

[Usagi]

tobirama is not thestrongest of kage ok. im not gonnasit here and sugar coat it. but this guy has this to be proud of

- fought against the uchiha clan
- formed a special task force of uchiha
- fought the gold and silver brother and won
- gave several kage a run for their money
- is a expert at taijutsu
- is a master of genjutsu
- water style master
- can form water by chakra means

the reason why people hate him: he was taken down by 20 elite shinobi

well here is one thing
those 20 elite shinobi where trained to counter and kill him. so ironicaly they succeeded but i think they suffered casulties.

besides i think he could've went toe to toe with madara or izuna. i bet he has.

thank you god bless

also i he had the lightning release blade to go with his water release

 

[Usagi]

You forgot that he created edo tensei and FTG.

And people say that he sucks because he lost to 20 elite jounin? I don't think anybody could last against all of the 5 kage guards + Kakashi, Guy, Asuma, Kurenai, Inoichi, Choza, Shikaku, Neji, Dan, and Hiashi.

he never created FTG that was Minato who did that

 

[abhiraj]

tobirama is not thestrongest of kage ok. im not gonnasit here and sugar coat it. but this guy has this to be proud of

- fought against the uchiha clan
- formed a special task force of uchiha
- fought the gold and silver brother and won
- gave several kage a run for their money
- is a expert at taijutsu
- is a master of genjutsu
- water style master
- can form water by chakra means

the reason why people hate him: he was taken down by 20 elite shinobi

well here is one thing
those 20 elite shinobi where trained to counter and kill him. so ironicaly they succeeded but i think they suffered casulties.

besides i think he could've went toe to toe with madara or izuna. i bet he has.

thank you god bless

Kinkaku and Ginkaku were part of those 20 elite shinobi.
apart from that he created edo tensei and space time jutsu, could do a water style jutsu that required 42 hand seals with only one.
he was good

 

[razinzell]

also i he had the lightning release blade to go with his water release

Really? can you post a link?

 

[LegendaryAce]

so 20 fodders vs kage lvl ninja, and kage lvl ninja died? hmm.

kakashi level ninjas are fodders alright also so weak tonton culd have beat them:shrug:

 

[SilverSlick]

Really? can you post a link?

He had Sword of the Thunder God. It was anime only so you can take it however you want it. I'm a fanboy so its cannon to me hehe. Look at the narutopedia. He was a master of it too.

 

[Stark]

20 Elite ninja killed him.. A Kage shouldn't lose to 20 elite ninja.. You are supposed to fodderize them as Hokage...

 

[SilverSlick]

20 Elite ninja killed him.. A Kage shouldn't lose to 20 elite ninja.. You are supposed to fodderize them as Hokage...

Hashirama died to fodder. Since Hashi is the supposed greatest, he shouldn't die to fodder either am I right?

 

[The Hidden Shinobi]

20 Elite ninja killed him.. A Kage shouldn't lose to 20 elite ninja.. You are supposed to fodderize them as Hokage...

No but when you think about they were kakashi's level by elite. And kakashi almost became hokage. So elite ninjas have potential to become kage.

So that was basically him vs 20 elite people like kakashi and darui. That is not that bad and even when his full team was there they were still saying they had no chance so cut him some slack

 

[Joon]

I would not underrate Tobimaru. He is placed high and is compared to the other Hokage in skill such as Hashirama and Minato. Along with his other techniques such as Edo Tensei might place him as greater Hokage than the others. Also, those who fodderize his death or character are fools and who only look at characters based on power or Epicness that a character show such as a Flashy Jutsu or Ability.

According to the Manga: Kin/Gin tried to stage a Coup D'etat and Ambush the Second Hokage and Second Raikage....The wield the Five Treasures and left the Second Hokage on the verge of death. [Mange Chapter 527; Page 4-5]

Danzou story revealed us that the Second Hokage could sense opponents moments from a simple touch on the ground. During a escape, the Second Hokage and his squad was surrounded. While touching the ground, he revealed that, the team were surrounded by 20 Shinobi. He continued on and claimed that they were skilled at tracking and identify them as Kumokagkure's Master Bounty Hunters....

They went on in a panic and suggestion a Decoy, but was worried that it would not help or their was no chance of survival. [Manga Chapter 481; Page 4-5]

 

[SilverSlick]

I would not underrate Tobimaru. He is placed high and is compared to the other Hokage in skill such as Hashirama and Minato. Along with his other techniques such as Edo Tensei might place him as greater Hokage than the others. Also, those who fodderize his death or character are fools and who only look at characters based on power or Epicness that a character show such as a Flashy Jutsu or Ability.

According to the Manga: Kin/Gin tried to stage a Coup D'etat and Ambush the Second Hokage and Second Raikage....The wield the Five Treasures and left the Second Hokage on the verge of death. [Mange Chapter 527; Page 4-5]

Danzou story revealed us that the Second Hokage could sense opponents moments from a simple touch on the ground. During a escape, the Second Hokage and his squad was surrounded. While touching the ground, he revealed that, the team were surrounded by 20 Shinobi. He continued on and claimed that they were skilled at tracking and identify them as Kumokagkure's Master Bounty Hunters....

They went on in a panic and suggestion a Decoy, but was worried that it would not help or their was no chance of survival. [Manga Chapter 481; Page 4-5]

Plus, his water style is unmatched.

 

[Owarij]

20 Elite ninja killed him.. A Kage shouldn't lose to 20 elite ninja.. You are supposed to fodderize them as Hokage...

Don't be stupid, there is no hokage i Know of

Who can go up against , Kakashi ,gai, asuma, darui,kurenai, shee, and 14 other elite jonin

 

[TobisPawn]

Hashirama died to fodder. Since Hashi is the supposed greatest, he shouldn't die to fodder either am I right?

LOL. You got him.