stop under rating tobirama senju and here is why

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tobirama is not thestrongest of kage ok. im not gonnasit here and sugar coat it. but this guy has this to be proud of

- fought against the uchiha clan
- formed a special task force of uchiha
- fought the gold and silver brother and won
- gave several kage a run for their money
- is a expert at taijutsu
- is a master of genjutsu
- water style master
- can form water by chakra means

the reason why people hate him: he was taken down by 20 elite shinobi

well here is one thing
those 20 elite shinobi where trained to counter and kill him. so ironicaly they succeeded but i think they suffered casulties.

besides i think he could've went toe to toe with madara or izuna. i bet he has.

thank you god bless
 

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don't forget he created the edo tensei ! I agree with you rep+
 

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Pretty sure Gin & Kin killed him.
 

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those 20 fodder were specifically trianed to kill him a anti tobirama sqaud. it like saying oh madara died from 20 fodder.

he was heavily out numbered
he was probably facing and gin kin
 

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I completely agree with this! I think he is the best political kage ever and one of the top 3 kage strength wise
 

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tobirama was and always will be the strongest hokage , with skills so epic kishi wont even show them in true form for fear they would scar some of the younger viewers for life

nidaime mutha f*cka :scorps:
 

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Pretty sure Gin & Kin killed him.

It was called Kinkaku squad, but that does not necessarily include Kinkaku and Ginkaku. The Kin and Gin staged a coup tried to kill both Hokage and Raikage, so they wld never be in a official Kumokagure team.

But he was getting old by that time, he was only slightly younger than Hashi (who died after beng a grand father {Hashi cells seem to slow down age}).
 
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Don't forget he's very good at S/T also, according to Minato ?
and he is a senju plus one of the early hokage, by all mean he is no weak.
I would actually put him above hiruzen, but that's just my own opinion.
 

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tobirama is not thestrongest of kage ok. im not gonnasit here and sugar coat it. but this guy has this to be proud of

- fought against the uchiha clan
- formed a special task force of uchiha
- fought the gold and silver brother and won
- gave several kage a run for their money
- is a expert at taijutsu
- is a master of genjutsu
- water style master
- can form water by chakra means

the reason why people hate him: he was taken down by 20 elite shinobi

well here is one thing
those 20 elite shinobi where trained to counter and kill him. so ironicaly they succeeded but i think they suffered casulties.

besides i think he could've went toe to toe with madara or izuna. i bet he has.

thank you god bless
Totally agree with this thread except that tobirama lost against the G&S brothers then was later killed by the kinkaku force, he just hasnt been shown enough to be rated properly, but he still was second in command of the strongest clan and a kage so hes definitely underrated, +rep bro
 

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Haha I kid but thanks for bringing up Tobirama. Greatest water style user. Had that lightning sword also. Hashi also died on the battlefield to fodder so please.
 

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I thought that Kinkaku and Ginkaku were part of those 20 elite shinobi. Or atleast Kinkaku. I don't recall him ever defeating them though.

But I don't find Tobirama to be underrated. I haven't seen many people talk bad about him. Not the best but he could be up there.

I am looking forward to hearing more from him in the manga. Hopefully he shows up during some kind of flashback that Madara might have.
 

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Haha I kid but thanks for bringing up Tobirama. Greatest water style user. Had that lightning sword also. Hashi also died on the battlefield to fodder so please.

Madara died out of no reason. So please.
 

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Don't forget he's very good at S/T also, according to Minato ?
and he is a senju plus one of the early hokage, by all mean he is no weak.
I would actually put him above hiruzen, but that's just my own opinion.
Oh yeah. Since he had S/T, I'm sure he could summon like a boss apart from Edo Tensei. Though neither Minato nor Tobirama's S/T was as versatile as Tobi's.
 
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