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Sometimes one just has to swallow one's pride and face the facts.
Stop the Violation of the System
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Sometimes one just has to swallow one's pride and face the facts.
lmao, if zero actually used logic, he would see that implementing this would end with the site losing all the people who keep the rp running..
oh, there might be 9000 people wanting to do "what I do" but unfortunately i doubt very many could, and thats not ego, that is knowing what i do, which you guys dnt, though if you think you can do a better job, go tell nexus you wanna replace me ^_^
Sometimes its not swallowing pride, its just losing to have fun. O_O Its when fighting, you see a spear coming from below take it through your feet and fight the rest of the battle disabled, why be so perfect and dodge it. U_U
Bleh, there are a hell of a lot of things I could say here, but I'm not in the mood, so I'm just going to stick to some small things.
If a tech is OP and misused it can always be revoked, even CE can be revoked, which in fact has been done before. It's already a part of our RP, however we are simply not going to do it very lightly for the simple reason that people are very easy to complain about such stuff and then I mainly refer to CJ who are in the 'grey' area, meaning they are above what we would normally approve, but not what you would call unbeatable or really OP. We only revoke it when it's clearly heavily abused and/or very unfair. You can always file a complaint and then we will look into it (and without any doubt someone would crap on us, whether it be for revoking or not revoking something, but not that anyone cares about that).
Example we revoked the Pyramid of Doom jutsu. A forbidden ranked earth tech that creates an indestructible earth pyramid locking both users in the pyramid where it's pitch-black, but only the user can see in it and only earth techs can be used.
Example: Dust Release originally got approved a CE but then get declined when it was clear it was in fact a rip off from the manga meaning by that it was already in a time that we were aware of what it was.
No one is immune to his own jutsu's. That's the way it is, that has nothing do with RPers coming to some kind of an unwritten agreement, that's the way it simply is. Everyone who claims otherwise is wrong. Logically you have a minimum of resistance against the jutsu's you make. When you make a Chidori, you don't get shocked when it covers your hand, but that doesn't take away that if you shoot a fireball and then jump in front of it's trajectory, you get the full brunt of the attack or that when you shoot an earth jutsu into the sky, you get crushed when it comes back down. That's just common sense, the 3rd raikage stabbed himself after all with his own jutsu.
I can only recall one bio I recently checked that fits your description and if it's stated in the CE, I can't do much about it unless I have discussed it with Nexus who checked the CE which I would only do it is absolutely necessary. If the person you are speaking of would for instance just ignore an S-Rank fire jutsu coming at him and says "screw it, I'm immune to fire" well yeah then he can kiss that 'immunity' goodby.
I can't do anything if he wants to state it in his bio. However I do remember that his bio is NOT heat resistant. Yes it states that he's more resistant against heat, but not immune, that's only the CE, nothing else. And I'm pretty sure about that as I edited more than one thing in that bio including that as originally it was described a lot worse and for a bio checker that bio is pure horror. On top of that heat resisting isn't that good as people might think. For starters you still have the kinetic force of a jutsu that can cause internal damage, secondly not everything can be said to be heat resistant. Skin is still understandable, but having having heat resistant cloths is already a bit much in Naruto, but hair and even eyes? No way. Thirdly if you're heat resistant, it means you can't transpire as after all if sweat can go it, heat can go in, thus meaning that your temperature will rise as your body can't cool down and thus you're screwing yourself up from the inside out.
Yes, people do their very best to abuse and milk out even the most tiny insignificant details to their advantage. Now let me make a global statement about the RP community and not anyone in particular: I trust you people as much . I have seen incredible misconduct of both jutsu's, CE and bio's, things you wouldn't even imagine that someone would try that and I'm talking about RPers of all ranks. As a result by default you shouldn't trust anyone when you're checking their jutsu's or bio's and that's why I'm so extremely strict when I check bio's and CE, something for which I often receive angry PM's/VM's and without any doubt probably more than one person has complained about it to other RP mods and admins and badmouth a lot of people me behind my back because I stripped them of things or declined their bio.
I've removed half or sometimes even more specialties and other stuff from people's bio's when I saw they were abusing or stepping over line even a little to get a point a cross and it's not something people like. Most people these days want abilities, as much as possible. They just want them to have them and on top of that most of them make bio after bio and then they complain when the see older members having those OP jutsu's from the old days. I find that extremely ironic as those people have access to countless abilities, way more than the old RPers had in their days. On top of that those abilities often get quite neglected too. I have no idea what people want rain so much, it never interested me, but you're supposed to state in your bio that you have been in Amegakure to be able to use it. I have seen quite a lot of times people didn't do that and if you really wanted that ability how could you possibly forget that? A while ago I checked someone's custom bio. It had an incredibly long history...and no reference whatsoever to Ame ven though rain was stated as an element, so I just added single line at the end of the history about Ame, but I said that next time the person should do it himself. That person then sent me a VM saying he did at it, it was in the last sentence, the sentence I added. That is just sad, people don't even know their own bio's anymore. And to top things of then people even complain about the abilities that only have restricted access, like lava.
That's just depressing. If I would formulate in a bit of an ancient, archaic way: a lot of RPers these days have simply no honor. They want abilities just for the sake of abilities, complain about restricted abilities and about olders RPers having some OP jutsu's. Most of those RPers are very well aware of what they have and are aware that if they use them too often or just use them they could very well loose them. It has been done before. However I find any kind of comment that all the jutsu's of old RPers should be rechecked or abilities of old RPers should be revoked simply useless, for the fact alone that simply not much RPers even have the right to utter such things if see what they are doing now. Older RPers might have OP jutsu's, but they weren't hardcore ability hunters, they were specialized RPers. They had skills that made them who they are and with whom they got personified. Roku has always been mr. spiritual, he had a more artistic/philosophical approach and took pride in his Music Arts, Sunfire and Kiyoshi skills. Scary Yamato has always been related to the wood element and Zen and I have always been focused mainly on taijutsu/kenjusu, while he put more emphasis on taijutsu, I did it on kenjutsu and our bio's reflect that. We didn't need anything additional.
These days you barely have such specialized RPers. Probably there are people who claim they are, but if so their bio's are often still filled with abilities, making that 'specialization' something that's completely buried in the depths of their bio or they are simply not what a specialized RPer should be, which is very obvious from the fact that only a very select few RPers stick to the same bio(s).
There was once a time I could just fall back on my own personal knowledge of the RPers themselves to decide whether they were worthy of having a certain specialty or not. As I result I rarely approved kenjutsu as a specialty because it was not true or at least not proven. Akiza, Keotsu, Zen...those were some of the few people I acknowledged as kenjutsu specialists, but these days everyone is a 'swordsman'. Everyone make a custom weapon and everyone has weapons. Most of the people who now have kenjutsu stated as specialty are probably no real ones like Keotsu. The only reason as why I'm forced to approve and tolerate such things is that otherwise people are going to complain, say it's unfair and it would take too much time for them to 'prove' they're worthy. I mean there are people who have mastered a single element and instantly say that they can use it with a single handseal or people who say they are specialized in 2T Sharingan...that's BS, that's a load crap.
I came to the conclusion that my elemental affinities would be fire and earth simply based when I looked at my RP career and abilities. I never had much creativity for nor water or lightning jutsu's. It just became obvious to me when I looked back to see when I finished the majority of the basic training. Now people just instantly say that something is their specialty from the moment they finished their training. Someone who states that he can use fire with a single handseal when he barely has finished or even started his other elements, is not specialized. The only reason I approve it is because it means less complaints and time wasting, but the fact that someone would actually state that, by default means he isn't a specialist. Same with 1 or 2T Sharingan, something I regularly read. I mean that's like saying you're specialized in 25m sprinting while doing the 100m.
Yes I'm quite pessimistic about this RP generation. This is also the reason why I give such harsh comments on CE and bio's. But be honest, they simply deserve it. This is also the reason I stopped teaching my techs to people, they just want them to have them on top of their other skills. I once had a person who wanted to make a bargain: he would sacrifice one bio just so that he could mix certain abilities in his other bio's, abilities that should never be allowed to be mixed. This is also the reason as why I never give permission for 'special' bio's that form an exception on rules like Kawagiri's custom sand bio, not much people deserve such a privilege, they just want the ability. Also in the past there was a taboo around new things. Whenever someone suddenly created a skill or just made a bio about something that had never been done before, people didn't copy it. That was simply not done, no one would copy Roku's Music Arts. Gatz was the first to ever make a custom Souma no Ku bio, no one would have dared to just copy him. Nero was one of the original sound users. If you wanted those things, you would go the person themselves and try becoming their personal student. Now people copy other people at the speed of light without a shred of shame. Once I accidentally approved an Inuzuka bio saying that the dog could elemental ninjutsu. I missed it because it was written somewhere in the Basic Information part in a spoiler under a large picture and I never scrolled to see if there was something written under the picture. That part was removed I think not even a day after, still I got instantly several PM's of people who wanted the same, for several weeks other people tried to add it to their bio's and some even argued about it with me...
Rpers these day hunt abilities, complain about restricted abilities, copy other people, abuse abilities and then complain about old OP jutsu's. That's just the way it is. If people want to hunt abilities, let them do, but leave the hypocritical behavior behind. If you find that someone is abusing an ability or jutsu, new or old, file a complaint and if we deem that it's the case we can restrict or even revoke it, but save us the petty speeches of 'all old members have OP jutsu's, not fair' and 'it's not fair that abilities are so much restricted'. This are not the old days anymore, what was allowed back then is often practically not possible, but also people don't have the mentality to deserve it and the opposite is true too, something people often tend to ignore and that is that the old days simply had way less.
People are mad because we restrict abilities so much, but yeah the correct truth is that we are forced to do that, while in the older days it wasn't necessary. Back then when I started checking bio's I didn't need to worry so much about tiny details in bio's to be abused, now I have to. Most of the time people just push it on the mods, it's always the mods. But it works both ways, it's a two-way road. When we made Swift release I was against it because I knew that this could turn into an 8IG mimicry and could be severely abused => go majorly abused => result we had to severely restrict it.
And this is why I give such harsh comments on CE and why I am so strict when checking bio's. People simply make me do it and as long as people don't realize the simple truth and change their attitude, it's going to stay that way. And that truth is: that these are not the old days anymore, but nonetheless those times are still part of our RP history, our current RP system is the result of those days. You can't erase them nor should that even be done and that instead of continuously complaining about restrictions, declined customs and elements and edited bio's they should more focus on understanding the here and now using the lessons from the past and the people should stop claiming that the staff monopolizes the ball while in fact the ball is in your camp but you refuse to acknowledge that and just push everything on to us. We base our actions on how the members act and if they only abuse and complain, how do you expect us then to react?
When I see for instance that someone makes a custom Juugo's clan bio just a short while after it was confirmed he came from a clan and the person just copy pasted all of Juugo's jutsu's (which even say only he can use them) to it and even copies abilities of him like talking to animals and I think even abilities that weren't shown, somehow thinking that it ever would be approved or when someone asks me he can mix two abilities together and I clearly say NO, but then he posts it nonetheless and asks another mod to approve it who it then somehow approved it, even though it was a straight breach of the rules, and then that person even tries to argue with me when I say it's not allowed. How could I possibly have faith in people in using powerful abilities when they do stuff like that? Yes I'm harsh, but have been like that for everyone without exception, no matter their gender, rank, village, old or new member.
Just to repeat myself what I just said is about people from all ranks, including sensei's on alts, sensei's on their main account, new members, members that are already considered old by this generation and even really old members.
And yes I lied, this wasn't small at all....oops.
If a tech is OP and misused it can always be revoked, even CE can be revoked, which in fact has been done before. It's already a part of our RP, however we are simply not going to do it very lightly for the simple reason that people are very easy to complain about such stuff and then I mainly refer to CJ who are in the 'grey' area, meaning they are above what we would normally approve, but not what you would call unbeatable or really OP. We only revoke it when it's clearly heavily abused and/or very unfair. You can always file a complaint and then we will look into it (and without any doubt someone would crap on us, whether it be for revoking or not revoking something, but not that anyone cares about that).
Example we revoked the Pyramid of Doom jutsu. A forbidden ranked earth tech that creates an indestructible earth pyramid locking both users in the pyramid where it's pitch-black, but only the user can see in it and only earth techs can be used.
Example: Dust Release originally got approved a CE but then get declined when it was clear it was in fact a rip off from the manga meaning by that it was already in a time that we were aware of what it was.
No one is immune to his own jutsu's. That's the way it is, that has nothing do with RPers coming to some kind of an unwritten agreement, that's the way it simply is. Everyone who claims otherwise is wrong. Logically you have a minimum of resistance against the jutsu's you make. When you make a Chidori, you don't get shocked when it covers your hand, but that doesn't take away that if you shoot a fireball and then jump in front of it's trajectory, you get the full brunt of the attack or that when you shoot an earth jutsu into the sky, you get crushed when it comes back down. That's just common sense, the 3rd raikage stabbed himself after all with his own jutsu.
I can only recall one bio I recently checked that fits your description and if it's stated in the CE, I can't do much about it unless I have discussed it with Nexus who checked the CE which I would only do it is absolutely necessary. If the person you are speaking of would for instance just ignore an S-Rank fire jutsu coming at him and says "screw it, I'm immune to fire" well yeah then he can kiss that 'immunity' goodby.
I can't do anything if he wants to state it in his bio. However I do remember that his bio is NOT heat resistant. Yes it states that he's more resistant against heat, but not immune, that's only the CE, nothing else. And I'm pretty sure about that as I edited more than one thing in that bio including that as originally it was described a lot worse and for a bio checker that bio is pure horror. On top of that heat resisting isn't that good as people might think. For starters you still have the kinetic force of a jutsu that can cause internal damage, secondly not everything can be said to be heat resistant. Skin is still understandable, but having having heat resistant cloths is already a bit much in Naruto, but hair and even eyes? No way. Thirdly if you're heat resistant, it means you can't transpire as after all if sweat can go it, heat can go in, thus meaning that your temperature will rise as your body can't cool down and thus you're screwing yourself up from the inside out.
Yes, people do their very best to abuse and milk out even the most tiny insignificant details to their advantage. Now let me make a global statement about the RP community and not anyone in particular: I trust you people as much . I have seen incredible misconduct of both jutsu's, CE and bio's, things you wouldn't even imagine that someone would try that and I'm talking about RPers of all ranks. As a result by default you shouldn't trust anyone when you're checking their jutsu's or bio's and that's why I'm so extremely strict when I check bio's and CE, something for which I often receive angry PM's/VM's and without any doubt probably more than one person has complained about it to other RP mods and admins and badmouth a lot of people me behind my back because I stripped them of things or declined their bio.
I've removed half or sometimes even more specialties and other stuff from people's bio's when I saw they were abusing or stepping over line even a little to get a point a cross and it's not something people like. Most people these days want abilities, as much as possible. They just want them to have them and on top of that most of them make bio after bio and then they complain when the see older members having those OP jutsu's from the old days. I find that extremely ironic as those people have access to countless abilities, way more than the old RPers had in their days. On top of that those abilities often get quite neglected too. I have no idea what people want rain so much, it never interested me, but you're supposed to state in your bio that you have been in Amegakure to be able to use it. I have seen quite a lot of times people didn't do that and if you really wanted that ability how could you possibly forget that? A while ago I checked someone's custom bio. It had an incredibly long history...and no reference whatsoever to Ame ven though rain was stated as an element, so I just added single line at the end of the history about Ame, but I said that next time the person should do it himself. That person then sent me a VM saying he did at it, it was in the last sentence, the sentence I added. That is just sad, people don't even know their own bio's anymore. And to top things of then people even complain about the abilities that only have restricted access, like lava.
That's just depressing. If I would formulate in a bit of an ancient, archaic way: a lot of RPers these days have simply no honor. They want abilities just for the sake of abilities, complain about restricted abilities and about olders RPers having some OP jutsu's. Most of those RPers are very well aware of what they have and are aware that if they use them too often or just use them they could very well loose them. It has been done before. However I find any kind of comment that all the jutsu's of old RPers should be rechecked or abilities of old RPers should be revoked simply useless, for the fact alone that simply not much RPers even have the right to utter such things if see what they are doing now. Older RPers might have OP jutsu's, but they weren't hardcore ability hunters, they were specialized RPers. They had skills that made them who they are and with whom they got personified. Roku has always been mr. spiritual, he had a more artistic/philosophical approach and took pride in his Music Arts, Sunfire and Kiyoshi skills. Scary Yamato has always been related to the wood element and Zen and I have always been focused mainly on taijutsu/kenjusu, while he put more emphasis on taijutsu, I did it on kenjutsu and our bio's reflect that. We didn't need anything additional.
These days you barely have such specialized RPers. Probably there are people who claim they are, but if so their bio's are often still filled with abilities, making that 'specialization' something that's completely buried in the depths of their bio or they are simply not what a specialized RPer should be, which is very obvious from the fact that only a very select few RPers stick to the same bio(s).
There was once a time I could just fall back on my own personal knowledge of the RPers themselves to decide whether they were worthy of having a certain specialty or not. As I result I rarely approved kenjutsu as a specialty because it was not true or at least not proven. Akiza, Keotsu, Zen...those were some of the few people I acknowledged as kenjutsu specialists, but these days everyone is a 'swordsman'. Everyone make a custom weapon and everyone has weapons. Most of the people who now have kenjutsu stated as specialty are probably no real ones like Keotsu. The only reason as why I'm forced to approve and tolerate such things is that otherwise people are going to complain, say it's unfair and it would take too much time for them to 'prove' they're worthy. I mean there are people who have mastered a single element and instantly say that they can use it with a single handseal or people who say they are specialized in 2T Sharingan...that's BS, that's a load crap.
I came to the conclusion that my elemental affinities would be fire and earth simply based when I looked at my RP career and abilities. I never had much creativity for nor water or lightning jutsu's. It just became obvious to me when I looked back to see when I finished the majority of the basic training. Now people just instantly say that something is their specialty from the moment they finished their training. Someone who states that he can use fire with a single handseal when he barely has finished or even started his other elements, is not specialized. The only reason I approve it is because it means less complaints and time wasting, but the fact that someone would actually state that, by default means he isn't a specialist. Same with 1 or 2T Sharingan, something I regularly read. I mean that's like saying you're specialized in 25m sprinting while doing the 100m.
Yes I'm quite pessimistic about this RP generation. This is also the reason why I give such harsh comments on CE and bio's. But be honest, they simply deserve it. This is also the reason I stopped teaching my techs to people, they just want them to have them on top of their other skills. I once had a person who wanted to make a bargain: he would sacrifice one bio just so that he could mix certain abilities in his other bio's, abilities that should never be allowed to be mixed. This is also the reason as why I never give permission for 'special' bio's that form an exception on rules like Kawagiri's custom sand bio, not much people deserve such a privilege, they just want the ability. Also in the past there was a taboo around new things. Whenever someone suddenly created a skill or just made a bio about something that had never been done before, people didn't copy it. That was simply not done, no one would copy Roku's Music Arts. Gatz was the first to ever make a custom Souma no Ku bio, no one would have dared to just copy him. Nero was one of the original sound users. If you wanted those things, you would go the person themselves and try becoming their personal student. Now people copy other people at the speed of light without a shred of shame. Once I accidentally approved an Inuzuka bio saying that the dog could elemental ninjutsu. I missed it because it was written somewhere in the Basic Information part in a spoiler under a large picture and I never scrolled to see if there was something written under the picture. That part was removed I think not even a day after, still I got instantly several PM's of people who wanted the same, for several weeks other people tried to add it to their bio's and some even argued about it with me...
Rpers these day hunt abilities, complain about restricted abilities, copy other people, abuse abilities and then complain about old OP jutsu's. That's just the way it is. If people want to hunt abilities, let them do, but leave the hypocritical behavior behind. If you find that someone is abusing an ability or jutsu, new or old, file a complaint and if we deem that it's the case we can restrict or even revoke it, but save us the petty speeches of 'all old members have OP jutsu's, not fair' and 'it's not fair that abilities are so much restricted'. This are not the old days anymore, what was allowed back then is often practically not possible, but also people don't have the mentality to deserve it and the opposite is true too, something people often tend to ignore and that is that the old days simply had way less.
People are mad because we restrict abilities so much, but yeah the correct truth is that we are forced to do that, while in the older days it wasn't necessary. Back then when I started checking bio's I didn't need to worry so much about tiny details in bio's to be abused, now I have to. Most of the time people just push it on the mods, it's always the mods. But it works both ways, it's a two-way road. When we made Swift release I was against it because I knew that this could turn into an 8IG mimicry and could be severely abused => go majorly abused => result we had to severely restrict it.
And this is why I give such harsh comments on CE and why I am so strict when checking bio's. People simply make me do it and as long as people don't realize the simple truth and change their attitude, it's going to stay that way. And that truth is: that these are not the old days anymore, but nonetheless those times are still part of our RP history, our current RP system is the result of those days. You can't erase them nor should that even be done and that instead of continuously complaining about restrictions, declined customs and elements and edited bio's they should more focus on understanding the here and now using the lessons from the past and the people should stop claiming that the staff monopolizes the ball while in fact the ball is in your camp but you refuse to acknowledge that and just push everything on to us. We base our actions on how the members act and if they only abuse and complain, how do you expect us then to react?
When I see for instance that someone makes a custom Juugo's clan bio just a short while after it was confirmed he came from a clan and the person just copy pasted all of Juugo's jutsu's (which even say only he can use them) to it and even copies abilities of him like talking to animals and I think even abilities that weren't shown, somehow thinking that it ever would be approved or when someone asks me he can mix two abilities together and I clearly say NO, but then he posts it nonetheless and asks another mod to approve it who it then somehow approved it, even though it was a straight breach of the rules, and then that person even tries to argue with me when I say it's not allowed. How could I possibly have faith in people in using powerful abilities when they do stuff like that? Yes I'm harsh, but have been like that for everyone without exception, no matter their gender, rank, village, old or new member.
Just to repeat myself what I just said is about people from all ranks, including sensei's on alts, sensei's on their main account, new members, members that are already considered old by this generation and even really old members.
And yes I lied, this wasn't small at all....oops.
The bio's, CE and CJ that get posted each day state otherwise. You don't even RP, so if you don't have anything useful to add to this discussion then don't post.
That's simply undoable. Even in the hypothetical case you would be able to create such a list, what would you actually gain by it? If you have list of thousands of jutsu's, what then? If you search for a jutsu that would be based on techs of other manga's who potentially carry the same name. But if it are just jutsu's that look alike then it's simply impossible. Also realistically speaking I don't believe people would even bother much checking such a list.
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Exactly.The spear won't kill you and will make the battle more realistic.Will give confidence to your opponent if he is not skilled and is rather new aswell.More need to note this.
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Exactly, and with many impossible counters of people lol It would be far more fun if people didn't really cared this much about winning. But lol, who am I to say so? Just another rp'er. Let's just have fun ^_^
He did respond to that. If the system of reevaluating CJs was by report, it would have a small impact, people will just be more conscious when using overpowered jutsu and one by one they'll be used from time to time and occasionally removed. And lets not forget the fact that most owners of these JCs aren't the ones using them, so that also will ease the impact.
Also, if there was an issue with a possible solution that would lead to a number of new members leaving, you would of supported the solutions. One must be blind to not see your motivations.
No, I am not qualified to take your place, I never implied I was, but you had to sarcastically suggest that I try so that you can make this look like jealousy and pity envy coming from me.
My point stands, you are volunteering to help NB knowing of the existence of thousands of other people who can take your place, so you shouldn't keep mentioning it so oftenly, using it so mute people when talking back, and to say none of them is more qualified than you is ignorance in its most obvious forms.
My decay being oped Teno? Nope...use earth/water against me... Instead of assuming something is oped because of the name it has, read the description. A-Rank Decay can be blocked with B-Rank earth... Frighteningly oped...indeed!
Mig, moaning about something me and Emp made and implemented into the RP? I mean...the RP...not me and him. We could have easily submitted those as our own customs and got them only for ourselves. Then you'd get a reason to moan like a little child... And Btw, you'll never learn it. I'll never give permission for you to learn it. Its offensive that you assume its something bad and oped when we will train normal members in it. If you wanted it the only thing you needed to do was to showcase good and interesting use of Genjutsu in the tournament. That means, using any other genjutsu than Bringer of Darkness on your first turn or second like 99% of the participants did (yeah...great showcase of use of gen... =_= )
Me and Emp made that for the RP. We had nothing to gain in the long run for the hours we spent working on that. Yes, me and Emp are currently the sole masters of it and the only ones who can use all the perks as creators. But why do you assume its oped? because it makes an A-Rank Fire turn into an S-Rank? Then use A-Rank water. You're a sensei, use your head! I assume you have one! Adding +20 to damage doesn't mean you can't block or defend. That notion is just ridiculous and comes from someone that can't find a counter for simple things thus decides to label everything as OPed. Everything he doesn't possess that is.
But this teaches us mods a lesson: working for NB is an ungrateful task. Even when you make powerful and good things for the community, people moan.
I never heard a single thank you for the Sound Rules for example. Or a single thank you for the 10 summoning animals limit or 10 techniques for CFS limit. Never a single one. You now can make more customs, yet not a single "thank you", not a single recognition. So yeah, kudos for dissing on NB Gen. Well done. Here, take an Oscar and an Emmy.
*sigh*
Mig, From the valid or somewhat valid initial point Zero made, this turned as it always does into a moaning session about the powers of others. Well, I wanted to have Water Explosion and Wood explosion and either the Earth or Water Swords. Do I moan because i don't have access to them? No. Why? because who the hell cares? Its not the power of others or their skills that matter but your own and how you create it. If I wanted power I'd make any of the test requiring bios since i'm sure to be able to pass the test and then i'd have their abilities and my "OPED" customs and CEs. But don't say i'm powerfull because i can cast Sakki on a Sage User and make him see death... Or that I can temporarily up my abilities +20 only to then be killed by anything fast moving and most above A-Rank techinques.
So this comes from someone who has powerfull techniques yes, but made them from his own mind and his own intellect instead of moaning about the powers others has.
And Zero, what you suggest is what people accuse us of doing: being bias. Singling out a member and his customs because someone complains its oped or hard to counter. It can't be done like that. It would turn us mods in nazis...And with all the moaning about everything, it wouldn't end well.
Mig, moaning about something me and Emp made and implemented into the RP? I mean...the RP...not me and him. We could have easily submitted those as our own customs and got them only for ourselves. Then you'd get a reason to moan like a little child... And Btw, you'll never learn it. I'll never give permission for you to learn it. Its offensive that you assume its something bad and oped when we will train normal members in it. If you wanted it the only thing you needed to do was to showcase good and interesting use of Genjutsu in the tournament. That means, using any other genjutsu than Bringer of Darkness on your first turn or second like 99% of the participants did (yeah...great showcase of use of gen... =_= )
Me and Emp made that for the RP. We had nothing to gain in the long run for the hours we spent working on that. Yes, me and Emp are currently the sole masters of it and the only ones who can use all the perks as creators. But why do you assume its oped? because it makes an A-Rank Fire turn into an S-Rank? Then use A-Rank water. You're a sensei, use your head! I assume you have one! Adding +20 to damage doesn't mean you can't block or defend. That notion is just ridiculous and comes from someone that can't find a counter for simple things thus decides to label everything as OPed. Everything he doesn't possess that is.
But this teaches us mods a lesson: working for NB is an ungrateful task. Even when you make powerful and good things for the community, people moan.
I never heard a single thank you for the Sound Rules for example. Or a single thank you for the 10 summoning animals limit or 10 techniques for CFS limit. Never a single one. You now can make more customs, yet not a single "thank you", not a single recognition. So yeah, kudos for dissing on NB Gen. Well done. Here, take an Oscar and an Emmy.
*sigh*
Mig, From the valid or somewhat valid initial point Zero made, this turned as it always does into a moaning session about the powers of others. Well, I wanted to have Water Explosion and Wood explosion and either the Earth or Water Swords. Do I moan because i don't have access to them? No. Why? because who the hell cares? Its not the power of others or their skills that matter but your own and how you create it. If I wanted power I'd make any of the test requiring bios since i'm sure to be able to pass the test and then i'd have their abilities and my "OPED" customs and CEs. But don't say i'm powerfull because i can cast Sakki on a Sage User and make him see death... Or that I can temporarily up my abilities +20 only to then be killed by anything fast moving and most above A-Rank techinques.
So this comes from someone who has powerfull techniques yes, but made them from his own mind and his own intellect instead of moaning about the powers others has.
And Zero, what you suggest is what people accuse us of doing: being bias. Singling out a member and his customs because someone complains its oped or hard to counter. It can't be done like that. It would turn us mods in nazis...And with all the moaning about everything, it wouldn't end well.
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Brilliant how he started with 'I'm just going to stick to some small things' and wrote a wallie anyway xD
Note: all these kind of threads always end in a lot of whining and moaning. It cannot be avoided somehow xD
And don't worry, if you end up becoming nazis we can teach you German ;P
I would like to address that as it applies to me. The reason I asked you in VMs that I wrote about rain because in my original bio I actually had a paragraph where I described I went to Amegakure to obtain Rain as an element. At that time it required testing and was removed, but i had the permission. When I recently updated my bio, I copy pasted it and added few things like I passed the test and it got checked after like 20 days, at that time I had forgotten that I added it or you did, thus asked you to make sure you wanted more than just that line. Thats my side of the story. And I don't want that ability badly, you can take it away if that pleases you, I am good with what I have.
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I 100% Agree
While this will be a very unpopular thing to do, I feel it is the right thing to do. However, Alber Einstein said it best when he said, “What is right is not always popular and what is popular is not always right.” I always felt that there was a period in NB history when the customs were checked in a way where the approval was given based on the assumption that the jutsu ould not be abused. While the original creator may not abuse them, the inheritor might. Just like when building codes get updated, the building needs to stay in compliance or it either gets updated, or condemmed.
You have my full support
Vasto Lordé
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A lot of us do actually Appreciate what you guys do, either you don't see it, or we simply don't post it. Why care about the people who don't say thank you, when the majority clearly appreciate your work even if they don't show it. A member might say "thank you" when he doesn't know anything about what you guys do, but still say it to get what they want, while other members never say thank you, but truly appreciate this RP. Expressing with actions is better than expressing with words.
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+20 damage to Forbidden technique, what will i do with it? use Forbidden technique of element it's strong to, OH WAIT, I DON'T HAVE ANY TECHNIQUE LIKE THAT CAUSE I CAN'T MAKE CJs, but that is not the point here, my point is that i am just saying, that if i, or anyone else would try to even make CJ like that you would laugh at me and give me do not resubmit, i don't even care i will never get it, but you're telling me, that that technique isn't OP? ok, never teach it to me, i don't give a sh*t, and to your point about me using Bringer Of Darkness, for 1 i was the first one to use that technique in that tourney, but i don't care about that, so what if i used it? it is nice jutsu that makes your opponent more or less blind, why wouldn't i use that if it's so good technique?
and you being able to be uneffected by Killing Intent and being able to use Killing Intent effectively on people of your own rank is not OP? tell me, what would for example stop Official Sage to go destroy village with just this one technique, yes, it would effect even Official Sage, so how exactly is that not OP? when whole village gets paralyzed from this technique you can just release something like Swamp Of the underworld and make some villagers sink, yes, you can hurt yourself, sure, but what would stop you from using it again? people would just bleed to death if you would spam Killing Intent everywhere
and just for your notice, i almost never complain about anything and appreciate work of mods
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Neither did I TBH,
Lol this thread showed people at their finest, or worse whichever it is, this was an interesting read.
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