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This thread, is in no way me saying Obito is defiantly Tobi, i'm just looking at possibilities right now on which characters could be Tobi, and providing theories on how its possible.

Everyone is saying that the timezone doesn't fit in with Obito's age for him to be Tobi, since we seen wrinkles on his face.

If you take a look at the short fight between Tobi and Torune, Tobi tore of his arm when he was poisoned, and it sort of came off with a gooey substance, very similar to Zetsu's body.

This leads to the fact that Tobi defiantly repairs himself with Zetsu, because he wouldn't have some random - Forbidden Style: Tear off Gooey Arm jutsu.

What i'm leading to, is that when Obito was crushed by the rock, his body was somehow found and repaired by Zetsu. I'm pretty sure Zetsu has this power because he can copy perfect bodies and chakra, So why wouldn't he be able to repair someones body?

Repairing bodies might not be as efficient as copying them with Zetsu, and a gooey substance is likely to wrinkle and fade as time passes, which explains the appearance of Obito being old and wrinkly.

Once again, there are countless facts that can disapprove this and facts that approve other characters, it won't matter in a couple of weeks anyway, Tobi will be revealed soon! :D
 
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Re: Disapproving Obito's Age Theory.

This thread, is in no way me saying Obito is defiantly Tobi, i'm just looking at possibilities right now on which characters could be Tobi, and providing theories on how its possible.

Everyone is saying that the timezone doesn't fit in with Obito's age for him to be Tobi, since we seen wrinkles on his face.

If you take a look at the short fight between Tobi and Torune, Tobi tore of his arm when he was poisoned, and it sort of came off with a gooey substance, very similar to Zetsu's body.

This leads to the fact that Tobi defiantly repairs himself with Zetsu, because he wouldn't have some random - Forbidden Style: Tear off Gooey Arm jutsu.

What i'm leading to, is that when Obito was crushed by the rock, his body was somehow found and repaired by Zetsu. I'm pretty sure Zetsu has this power because he can copy perfect bodies and chakra, So why wouldn't he be able to repair someones body?

Repairing bodies might not be as efficient as copying them with Zetsu, and a gooey substance is likely to wrinkle and fade as time passes, which explains the appearance of Obito being old and wrinkly.

Once again, there are countless facts that can disapprove this and facts that approve other characters, it won't matter in a couple of weeks anyway, Tobi will be revealed soon! :D
This leads to the fact that Tobi defiantly repairs himself with Zetsu, because he wouldn't have some random - Forbidden Style: Tear off Gooey Arm jutsu. <- lol
 

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Re: Disapproving Obito's Age Theory.

Nice. See, I like this, even though you don't believe Tobi is Obito, you still look at why he CAN be Obito.

+rep.
I do believe Tobi could be alot of people, Obito being one of them.

But there are still facts pointing to and from Obito, and away from a lot of characters. It's no use saying 'IKNOWHOHEIS' All the time when it's Kishi's manga, not ours.
 

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Re: Disapproving Obito's Age Theory.

This thread, is in no way me saying Obito is defiantly Tobi, i'm just looking at possibilities right now on which characters could be Tobi, and providing theories on how its possible.

Everyone is saying that the timezone doesn't fit in with Obito's age for him to be Tobi, since we seen wrinkles on his face.

If you take a look at the short fight between Tobi and Torune, Tobi tore of his arm when he was poisoned, and it sort of came off with a gooey substance, very similar to Zetsu's body.

This leads to the fact that Tobi defiantly repairs himself with Zetsu, because he wouldn't have some random - Forbidden Style: Tear off Gooey Arm jutsu.

What i'm leading to, is that when Obito was crushed by the rock, his body was somehow found and repaired by Zetsu. I'm pretty sure Zetsu has this power because he can copy perfect bodies and chakra, So why wouldn't he be able to repair someones body?

Repairing bodies might not be as efficient as copying them with Zetsu, and a gooey substance is likely to wrinkle and fade as time passes, which explains the appearance of Obito being old and wrinkly.

Once again, there are countless facts that can disapprove this and facts that approve other characters, it won't matter in a couple of weeks anyway, Tobi will be revealed soon! :D
Possibly...but i think that the wrinkles we are seeing now is because of the boulder fell on his right face and not the AGE...(look at Kakashi, are they not of same age?)
 

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Re: Disapproving Obito's Age Theory.

Possibly...but i think that the wrinkles we are seeing now is because of the boulder fell on his right face and not the AGE...(look at Kakashi, are they not of same age?)
I already explained why he could probably look old.

Zetsu would have repaired Obito's body, but since Zetsu is made of a gooey substance, it is most likely to wrinkle and fade as time goes on.

And a boulder smashing into your face would not make you look old, just saying xd
 
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Re: Disapproving Obito's Age Theory.

what a drag reply:

Ah, but he did say it's not that he IS that old; it's that he LOOKS that old due to Zetsu's power. My guess goes slightly differently: rapid regeneration, as shown with Tsunade, generally ages you much faster. So, it's entirely possible that the regenerating powers of Zetsu's bloodline (we'll call it that for this) are fully realized in Zetsu, but not in those he donates tissue to. Thus, his cells deteriorate with each need to regenerate.

This is why we post theories, really; to compare them to others' thoughts and have updates. Think the Peer Review system for science.

Now, I haven't a clue who Tobi is, and I'm not sure I care as much as the other theorists, but I have to say I REALLY like this theory. If it turns out you're right, I'm going to come back and pat you on the back with more +rep. As it stands, for a reasonably-well-put argument that is neutral and could very well explain things...have one of these.

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Re: Disapproving Obito's Age Theory.

So your saying it was a 13 YEAR OLD Obito fighting the Fourth Hokage and having the ability to summon the Nine Tails?

Pretty sure the person who fought the 4th didn't look or sound like a 13 year old little boy.

Besides Tobi's personality is NOTHING like Obitos...

Obito would have no reason to do the things Tobi is doing... even if you want to talk about Rin and all that BS that happened with her... Obito is not someone who would go all batsh*t crazy over something like that.

It's QUITE obvious Kishi knows about all the Obito theorists out there and wants to play with their minds a little... why do you think so many hints were dropped that it might very well be Obito? Because it's NOT... it's just a curve ball.

I wish the Obito theories would stop lol. But hey... once Tobi is revealed the topic will finally be put to rest. CAN'T WAIT FOR THAT DAY.
 

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Re: Disapproving Obito's Age Theory.

what a drag reply:

Ah, but he did say it's not that he IS that old; it's that he LOOKS that old due to Zetsu's power. My guess goes slightly differently: rapid regeneration, as shown with Tsunade, generally ages you much faster. So, it's entirely possible that the regenerating powers of Zetsu's bloodline (we'll call it that for this) are fully realized in Zetsu, but not in those he donates tissue to. Thus, his cells deteriorate with each need to regenerate.

This is why we post theories, really; to compare them to others' thoughts and have updates. Think the Peer Review system for science.

Now, I haven't a clue who Tobi is, and I'm not sure I care as much as the other theorists, but I have to say I REALLY like this theory. If it turns out you're right, I'm going to come back and pat you on the back with more +rep. As it stands, for a reasonably-well-put argument that is neutral and could very well explain things...have one of these.

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:overjoy: I won an internet, what to do now?

And thanks for your support, I don't normally do these threads unless I know it's not something I pulled out of my ass

I like your theory somewhat to, makes just as much sense as mine. Explains a bit about my theory too.
 

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Re: Disapproving Obito's Age Theory.

Wrong and stupid.. Obito believers are always saying Zetau found Obito and that idea has not one evidence to support it. We dont know anything about Zetsus origins or background or where he came from or if he is even human but because we dont know doesn't mean you can make up some bull theory that he found Obito.

I would be justified to say that Zetsu is Hashiramas biological son. That probably holds more weight then him just finding Obito.

Also let's say hypothetically Zetsu found.Obito..... What's the point and motive behind that? There is none. Second if Zetsu repaired Obito then how does that make Obito age? Cuz its gooey? That doesnt make any gawd damn sense. If anything that should make Obito ageless and younger cuz he's using a fake substance to replace body parts. Also that doesnt answer the fact that Obito would have the ability to fight on par with his ol sensei Minato after a few years when before he couldn't even stand up against Kakashi in fighting skills.

This is a poor attempt to explain the obito tobi theory. Tobi is not Obito. The closest thing is that Toni is using Obitos eye
 

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Re: Disapproving Obito's Age Theory.

I don't think he has Zetsu substance in his face. The wrinkles are just wrinkles, believe it or not. People are grasping for straws imo.
Besides the most logical reason why Tobi has Obito's sharingan in the first place is because his face didn't really get hit by the boulder. If it hit him in the head he would have died before saying his last words to Kakashi
 

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Re: Disapproving Obito's Age Theory.

Wrong and stupid.. Obito believers are always saying Zetau found Obito and that idea has not one evidence to support it. We dont know anything about Zetsus origins or background or where he came from or if he is even human but because we dont know doesn't mean you can make up some bull theory that he found Obito.

I would be justified to say that Zetsu is Hashiramas biological son. That probably holds more weight then him just finding Obito.

Also let's say hypothetically Zetsu found.Obito..... What's the point and motive behind that? There is none. Second if Zetsu repaired Obito then how does that make Obito age? Cuz its gooey? That doesnt make any gawd damn sense. If anything that should make Obito ageless and younger cuz he's using a fake substance to replace body parts. Also that doesnt answer the fact that Obito would have the ability to fight on par with his ol sensei Minato after a few years when before he couldn't even stand up against Kakashi in fighting skills.

This is a poor attempt to explain the obito tobi theory. Tobi is not Obito. The closest thing is that Toni is using Obitos eye
Was there any need to be a disrespectful moron? This is an opinion and nothing more, you obviously didn't read the OP properly if your coming out with this bullshit.

First of all, learn to talk to other people.

Second of all, I'm saying this is a theory, nothing more. Obito could be many people, there are points that lead too and from Obito, the same with many other characters. Your just too proud to admit that its DEFIANTLY a possibility. If you read the f**king thread you would know that.

Thirdly, This theory is 100% plausible, because nothing was explained what happened to Obito after his death. Zetsu's body is made of a goo-like substance, which means it sort of melts and fades, Zetsu can copy perfect bodies and chakra, so it's very likely that his able to do the same on other people's bodys and repair them.

Don't be such a f**king douchebag and give me a respectful response, you've honestly pissed me off with your post. Because I explained everything you just insulted or talked about in the god damn thread.

I really am quite sick of the idiots on this base.

I don't think he has Zetsu substance in his face. The wrinkles are just wrinkles, believe it or not. People are grasping for straws imo.
Besides the most logical reason why Tobi has Obito's sharingan in the first place is because his face didn't really get hit by the boulder. If it hit him in the head he would have died before saying his last words to Kakashi
This is a theory explaining what would happen if Obito WAS Tobi, and how it could be possible. Not directly saying that he is defiantly Tobi and everyone else is wrong. Tobi can be anyone, and we will see who soon enough.
 
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Re: Disapproving Obito's Age Theory.

I think this is probably the most plausible obito theory yet tbh. It covers all the counters of obito's age and explains many of the scenes in which tobi was able to just regenerate. As for the motive arguement that contradicts obito's character, well it's not hard to come with a motive. I would not mind this being true, all though I myself lean more towards a certain kagami and shisui theory :D very well said
 

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Re: Disapproving Obito's Age Theory.

You also have to factor in the fact that Nagato is older than Obito and Kakashi. If Madara and Tobi gave Nagato his Rinnegan eyes, then he has to be old. Nagato is older than Kakashi and Obito and met Jaraiya before they were probably even born. It's been confirmed that the REAL Uchiha Madara knows Nagato personally. Obito can't be Tobi.
 

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Re: Disapproving Obito's Age Theory.

These manga pages make me think its not Obito

First look how young Kakashi is here when Tobi faught the 4th, he is a lot shorter and smaller. Which would make Obito the same age.


And right here when he said Do you hav ANY idea how long I've waited for this moment, I took that as a hint that he is really old and has been waiting for a long long time. And at this very moment its been what like 3-5 years since Obito died?


And lastly the 4th was Obitos Sensei dont you think he would have somehow figured out it was Obito when they were talking and fought? I remember Obito being a good guy and dying to protect his friends I dont see him becoming this super villain like Tobi.
 
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