I already said, Bu without any power-ups was stronger than both Vegeta and Goku [
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]. The same Buu SSj3 Gotenks was owning. Majin Buu=Gotenks pre hperbolic time chamber>>SSj2 vegeta=SSj2 Goku. After hyperbolic time chamber, the SSj Gotenks that was supposed to lose to Super Buu by Piccolo's standards became a Gotenks whose Base was said to have potential of defeating Super Buu. So base Gotenks post rosat is stronger than SSj1 Gotenks pre-RoSaT. Doubtable that SSj3 is even needed, SSj1 post-RoSaT comfortably takes it since Goku
and Vegeta would stand no chance to Base Super Buu.
Sorry Itani, but I don't think you're remotely correct on this one. I actually had to go back and reread a solid thirty chapters to make sure I was correct on this. SSj3 Gotenks wasn't even close to owning Buu. He managed to land a
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. But, the entire fight as a Super Saiyan Three was an uphill battle. Buu even was able to
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,
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he even
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.
You also said that Majin Buu is equal to Pre Hyperbolic Gotenks? Maijin Buu beat a base Gotenks easily, as it was depicted. The Super Saiyan version never got to fight, but judging by Piccolo
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. The actual power between the two versions of Buu are the same, it is only that
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and now is even able to sense ki. Saying that a Super Saiyan Gotenks is equal to Maijin Buu is just wrong, going by the fact that any attack is easily tanked and Maijin Buu can still dish out attacks on the same power level as Super Buu. Which were giving SSj3 Gotenks some trouble (Albeit likely do to more of his battle style,).
Not sure why you're mentioning vegeta and Goku in the Ascended Saiyan State. It's clearly Super Saiyan 3 Goku we're talking about here. Points I made earlier even became more clear as I reread the chapters. Gotenks is an incredibly petty fighter who's left his guard down several times to gloat, his stronger techniques he has used against Buu he failed to realize didn't work. And it took him time to properly organize the assault against Buu with his ghost clones. An opponent who literally walked into their circle to see what they were doing. Gotenks is not getting a chance like this against Goku, who's instincts and skills far surpass both a base Super Buu and Gotenks. The transformation itself can
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, plenty of time for Goku to last (at the worst case,) before his enemy is depowered.
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, something I am skeptical SSJ 3 Gotenks has the destructive output to do.
At the end of the day; They're comparable in power but Gotenk's only saving grace is a few unique techniques. All of which have failed to do anything much against opponents around their level before. With five minutes the best he can hold the form up for, and with an experienced warrior such as Goku as their opponent. I doubt their abilities to win more times than Goku.
I am especially concerned with you thinking a SSj1 Gotenks can beat a SSj2 Goku or Vegeta. Either one are capable of defeating the fused warrior alone. But, that's another story.
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