[Theory] Space Time Taijutsu

[Hori]

So make a post with a poll to see who is right

Ehhh?! I don't wanna, I know I am right and i have been the one proving evidence so far
PS: lets stop this its of topic

 

[Hori]

i think gai moved so fast he could vibrate through things like the flash

Yup pretty much like this... I suppose they wann name it as space time taijutsu whilst its not using any dimension.. Tobi 98 ran away when I asked him about the Raikage's teleporting speed

You said it all^^^^^

I thank you, for agreeing

 

[flyboyissac]

Oh this is gonna be fun...

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*********** says othewise... and as you know *********** translations are better than mangapandas

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*********** never had a raw version before they take english and make it better

 

[thegame]

Whether you use *********** or mangapanda translation, they basically say the same, ***********'s translation is just "easier" to understand. A distortion of space is just the same as twisting space. The space is made of air, so that is what is happening in either cases.

As I understand it from both translations, a distortion in the space around him, simply means, he uses so much force and power, that when he moves the air molecules, vacuum is left behind (momentarily of course), which raises the pressure in air around and lowers the pressure behind his movements so dramatically, that it will look distorted.

Besides your interpretation has nothing to do with relativistic speeds. Please do not confuse yourself or others with relativistic physics. Space time ninjutsu is still instantaneous, moving at relativistic velocities is not, quite contrary it forbids such thing. You need to look at quantum mechanics, if you want to explain instantaneous movements.

 

[Yahcob13]

Its definately a S/T justsu if he distorted space. S/T techniquest require the ability manipulate the s/t continuum.

 

[Senju Bean]

Whether you use *********** or mangapanda translation, they basically say the same, ***********'s translation is just "easier" to understand. A distortion of space is just the same as twisting space. The space is made of air, so that is what is happening in either cases.

As I understand it from both translations, a distortion in the space around him, simply means, he uses so much force and power, that when he moves the air molecules, vacuum is left behind (momentarily of course), which raises the pressure in air around and lowers the pressure behind his movements so dramatically, that it will look distorted.

Besides your interpretation has nothing to do with relativistic speeds. Please do not confuse yourself or others with relativistic physics. Space time ninjutsu is still instantaneous, moving at relativistic velocities is not, quite contrary it forbids such thing. You need to look at quantum mechanics, if you want to explain instantaneous movements.

Kamui is ST and not instantanteous

 

[thegame]

Kamui is ST and not instantanteous

Well, how is it not instantaneous? It moves an object to a different dimension right away. The technique itself has some casting delay, but that is due to the sharingan, similar to other jutsus having delays due to seals, etc.

Space time jutsu is just defined as moving an object through different space and time, so that it appears at the location desired for you right away.

 

[Cosme]

It wasnt instantaneous so its not a S/T technique.

 

[yuredonitemare]

NB,

Gais attack was more like a "WARP KICK" which indeed would cause space-time to warp around Gai, creating a region of contracted space in front of him and expanded space behind him.

This would also explain why his body turned to ash, the speed of the kick was so fast it caused tremendous friction between gai and the air... If only he had a heat sheild... LOL

 

[Senju Bean]

Well, how is it not instantaneous? It moves an object to a different dimension right away. The technique itself has some casting delay, but that is due to the sharingan, similar to other jutsus having delays due to seals, etc.

Space time jutsu is just defined as moving an object through different space and time, so that it appears at the location desired for you right away.

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[Whiteknight]

Gai's Night Moth, moving at relativistic speeds, was able to distort the very fabric of space.


Gai having broken ribs and an arm clearly wasn't able to execute the technique to it's full power.

Perhaps the full potential of the Night Moth is to tear space upon impact, completely destroying any target.

After all, many Moths are dark and what does torn space look like? Dark.

The *********** translation says "He's twisting the very air around him". It doesn't say anything about bending space/time. Don't look too much into it.

 

[thegame]

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That is the delay, I was talking about. You don't seem to understand the meaning of instantaneous. When I want to use a water jutsu and spit water, it takes time to mold the water and prepare the jutsu. It also takes time for the water to move from my mouth to my target.

Obito's kamui is the same thing. It takes time to open the gate to the other dimension, however, transfering the target to that dimension happens instantaneous.

It is true, that it seems like a delay during the transfer to the other dimension, however, that is, IMO, just the same reason again, because Obito needs to close the "door" to that dimension again, which is seen as those spirals. The moment Obito touches his target, it is already over, there is no escape - unless you use a ST jutsu

Besides Kamui isn't like most space time jutsu, because it has the ability to keep the target in another dimension as well. Other space time jutsu doesn't do that. It moves a target to a different location in the same dimension.

 

[jkranites]

That is the delay, I was talking about. You don't seem to understand the meaning of instantaneous. When I want to use a water jutsu and spit water, it takes time to mold the water and prepare the jutsu. It also takes time for the water to move from my mouth to my target.

Obito's kamui is the same thing. It takes time to open the gate to the other dimension, however, transfering the target to that dimension happens instantaneous.

It is true, that it seems like a delay during the transfer to the other dimension, however, that is, IMO, just the same reason again, because Obito needs to close the "door" to that dimension again, which is seen as those spirals. The moment Obito touches his target, it is already over, there is no escape - unless you use a ST jutsu

Besides Kamui isn't like most space time jutsu, because it has the ability to keep the target in another dimension as well. Other space time jutsu doesn't do that. It moves a target to a different location in the same dimension.

I think it most Space Time Jutsu was called the "transportation technique". Obito's Kamui is like a gateway to another dimension more than anything else