Someone tell me how minato legitly beats itachi i just dont see it..

[Minator93]

Minato avoiding Direct eye-contacnt against Tobi :

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[Bogard]

Minato wins this,he has all the answers to Itachi's attacks and can come out as the victor if the two of them were to face each other in ideal conditions.

Read the following

Minato vs Sharingan Itachi :

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Minato can beat Sharingan Itachi.

Minato has more speed,raw strength,chakra, powerful summons, seals.

Further he did beat Sharingan Tobi.

Minato vs Amaterasu :

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A Few thing from wiki :

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A using his Lightning Release Armour enhanced Body Flicker Technique avoided a short-range Amaterasu launched at him by Sasuke in an instant.

The only thing that the flames have failed to burn into or through is Gaara's chakra-infused sand. However, the flames burn fairly slowly, sometimes allowing anyone struck by Amaterasu an opportunity to remove whatever clothing or body parts have been caught ablaze. Nagato was able to deflect the flames from his body using Shinra Tensei. Use of the technique also puts a great deal of strain on the user, usually causing their eyes to bleed.

Minato dodged A's FULL speed the picture is in the Susanoo section below.
We've seen that A who wasn't even using his full speed dodged Sasuke's Amaterasu [Which according to Shee was better than Itachi's] at very close range. So Minato can do the same with more ease.

So even if Minato gets hit by Amaterasu he being the fastest of them all and thanks to s/t can save himself by teleporting himself back to his safe house. He did this when Tobi had bombed new-born Naruto.

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Plus Itachi can't use Amaterasu very often it affects him badly because he lacks the Eternal

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One more thing Jiraya sealed Amaterasu. So its safe to assume that Minato being the sealing master he is can do the same with more ease.

Minato vs Tsukuyomi :

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Tsukuyomi requires eye contact to be performed. Its a short Ranged Genjutsu and to my knowledge the root knew about it and It hasn't killed a single soul.

Guy was confident to go up against Itachi w/out Eye contact a Jounin os his calibre can fight w/pot eye contact. Further its common knowledge that when fighting a Sharingan user avoid eye contact and that can be done.

For Itachi to trap Minato in tsukuyomi Minato need to look directly into hie eyes and that to at a cllose range which Minato will never do.

In fact Itachi can't afford to keep Minato at a close range because Minato is bad close range match up.

I mean look at all his fights all he does is to get close to the opponent, All those fodders, Tobi even A the raikage...all those pictures are posted below.

Minato vs Susanoo :

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Minato can get past Itachi's complete Susanoo -

Here are some photos that shows that Minato can teleport in a radius of few meters around the FTG Kunai

Look at the distance

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Appearing directly above Tobi

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Marked Tobi's Back but attacked from the front

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Teleporting himself to the Kunai

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This is the width of Itachi's Complete Susanoo

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From the above data its pretty clear than minato can get past the susanoo via FTG Kunai i.e. Teleporting Inside of it.

Further once Minato's done that Itachi's end is fixed because his body is under enormous amount of pain He won't be able to defend himself.

There are other ways as well such as marking the ground or stones etc.

Minato can attack the susanoo itself :

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Here we can see that Danzo used his Summon against Sasuke's Offensive, long Ranged Complete Susanoo

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And it reduced the Susanoo to the incomplete state, the only reason it failed becasue Fire worked against the wind.

In Minato and Itachi's case Minato can use this on Itachi's Defensive Susanoo

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Don't forget Gamabunata has water style that has advantage against Fire style.

Also this is the same summon that went up against Strong Rinnegan summons held its own against a tailed beast Shukaku and restrained a complete Kurama

Plus Minato can use this as well

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The three most powerful toads :

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Also before saying BS like Itachi can control them via genjutsu Consider Itachi's state and the Chakra being drained from his body [used for maintaining MS and Susanoo]. He can't do shit against them. He is not Nagato!

In fact now that I think about it Itachi cant put up a descent fight if he has to go through all these summmons.

This could also be the thing why Jiraya was so confident when we was up against Itachi and Kisame

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I mean yeah Itachi never intended to fight but I have 1 question, Has Jiraya ever underestimated his opponent or boasted that He would kill someone who's power would be greater than his ?

Don't you remember what he did before going up against Pain?, He summoned Gerotora because Pain was the only opponent Jiraya wasn't sure about.

One more thing before posting the pic that show Itachi blocking the Rinnegan view with shuriken, The Rinnegan summons don't think for themself they just do what the Rinnegan user wishes that's why they just charge at the opponent w/out thinking or w/out any strategy.

You almost said all what i was explaining to him, but you added some things i failed to realised. +rep :scorps:

 

[Champ]

He can't Prince, Itachi wins every time

 

[Blaze Release]

Agreed, but then again its not my intention to lead this to something else, merely want others views on the subject xd silly blazey

Everybody has their own take on things, its how you view it. Until kishi comes out and tells us who will win, this argument will go on forever U_U

 

[Tony of the DarkFlash]

itachi rapes minato
no way minato break susanoo
only pure blooded fanboys will deny that

no way minato will avoid itachi's genjutsu
only pure blooded fanboys will deny that

no way minato will outsmart itachi
itachi rapes minato all the time and all threads here in this bloody site

 

[looking 4 name]

itachi beats him

 

[AARB]

this is quite simple
tobi>itachi
minato>tobi

you need to just face the facts that itachi is not even in the same league as minato.he might not show much of what he can do but what he has already shown is more than enough to beat itachi. you guys always talk about minato only have ftg and because of that he is not strong but when it comes to tobi who only has shown space time migration, he is the one getting the hype,even comparing his strength to nagato.minato may have only shown ftg but it is an extremely powerful technique that he created and its his own jutsu.the fact that he only uses it in every match we see is because a decent opponent has not approached him were he is forced to take the battle seriously and fight using all the jutsu he has.it is just like when itachi just came to the show and fought kakashi, kurenai and asuma,because they werent that strong to itachi,he was only seen using tsukuyomi.would you say then that itachi is weak because he is only seen using tsukuyomi? When itachi began to fight more powerful opponents like jiraiya or sasuke in part 2, he is now seen going all out and using more powerful jutsus.So dont look at minato only using ftg because its only thing he has, look at minato only using ftg because the opponent was not strong enough for him to use his most powerful techniques.When minato fought kurama,he was seen using a teleportation barrier.this proves that minato has more powerful techniques than ftg and that he uses more powerful techniques if the opponent(like kurama) is strong enough.Another example is how tobi activated his mangekyou sharingan when fighting naruto BM,Killerbee,Kakashi and guy.the whole time during part 2 tobi has only been seen using his intangibility and teleportation techniques but when fighting naruto BM, killerbee, kakashi and guy he started using other techniques like the barrier he used to protect the gedo mazo from kakashi and killerbee and activated the mangekyou sharingan and started reverse teleporting weapons to attack naruto ad killerbee or even when he used izanagi when fighting konan. this is all because every opponent tobi fought up until that point was not strong enough to force him to use more powerful techniques in the fight. so not because minato is only using ftg means he only has ftg

 

[TouchMyMangos]

Minato has too much for Itachi obviously. People with 'Uchiha' in their name or with an Itachi avatar are just being biased.

 

[AARB]

Minato wins this,he has all the answers to Itachi's attacks and can come out as the victor if the two of them were to face each other in ideal conditions.

Read the following

Minato vs Sharingan Itachi :

Spoiler

Minato can beat Sharingan Itachi.

Minato has more speed,raw strength,chakra, powerful summons, seals.

Further he did beat Sharingan Tobi.

Minato vs Amaterasu :

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A Few thing from wiki :

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A using his Lightning Release Armour enhanced Body Flicker Technique avoided a short-range Amaterasu launched at him by Sasuke in an instant.

The only thing that the flames have failed to burn into or through is Gaara's chakra-infused sand. However, the flames burn fairly slowly, sometimes allowing anyone struck by Amaterasu an opportunity to remove whatever clothing or body parts have been caught ablaze. Nagato was able to deflect the flames from his body using Shinra Tensei. Use of the technique also puts a great deal of strain on the user, usually causing their eyes to bleed.

Minato dodged A's FULL speed the picture is in the Susanoo section below.
We've seen that A who wasn't even using his full speed dodged Sasuke's Amaterasu [Which according to Shee was better than Itachi's] at very close range. So Minato can do the same with more ease.

So even if Minato gets hit by Amaterasu he being the fastest of them all and thanks to s/t can save himself by teleporting himself back to his safe house. He did this when Tobi had bombed new-born Naruto.

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Plus Itachi can't use Amaterasu very often it affects him badly because he lacks the Eternal

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One more thing Jiraya sealed Amaterasu. So its safe to assume that Minato being the sealing master he is can do the same with more ease.

Minato vs Tsukuyomi :

Spoiler

Tsukuyomi requires eye contact to be performed. Its a short Ranged Genjutsu and to my knowledge the root knew about it and It hasn't killed a single soul.

Guy was confident to go up against Itachi w/out Eye contact a Jounin os his calibre can fight w/pot eye contact. Further its common knowledge that when fighting a Sharingan user avoid eye contact and that can be done.

For Itachi to trap Minato in tsukuyomi Minato need to look directly into hie eyes and that to at a cllose range which Minato will never do.

In fact Itachi can't afford to keep Minato at a close range because Minato is bad close range match up.

I mean look at all his fights all he does is to get close to the opponent, All those fodders, Tobi even A the raikage...all those pictures are posted below.

Minato vs Susanoo :

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Minato can get past Itachi's complete Susanoo -

Here are some photos that shows that Minato can teleport in a radius of few meters around the FTG Kunai

Look at the distance

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Appearing directly above Tobi

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Marked Tobi's Back but attacked from the front

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Teleporting himself to the Kunai

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This is the width of Itachi's Complete Susanoo

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From the above data its pretty clear than minato can get past the susanoo via FTG Kunai i.e. Teleporting Inside of it.

Further once Minato's done that Itachi's end is fixed because his body is under enormous amount of pain He won't be able to defend himself.

There are other ways as well such as marking the ground or stones etc.

Minato can attack the susanoo itself :

Spoiler

Here we can see that Danzo used his Summon against Sasuke's Offensive, long Ranged Complete Susanoo

Spoiler

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And it reduced the Susanoo to the incomplete state, the only reason it failed becasue Fire worked against the wind.

In Minato and Itachi's case Minato can use this on Itachi's Defensive Susanoo

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Don't forget Gamabunata has water style that has advantage against Fire style.

Also this is the same summon that went up against Strong Rinnegan summons held its own against a tailed beast Shukaku and restrained a complete Kurama

Plus Minato can use this as well

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The three most powerful toads :

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Also before saying BS like Itachi can control them via genjutsu Consider Itachi's state and the Chakra being drained from his body [used for maintaining MS and Susanoo]. He can't do shit against them. He is not Nagato!

In fact now that I think about it Itachi cant put up a descent fight if he has to go through all these summmons.

This could also be the thing why Jiraya was so confident when we was up against Itachi and Kisame

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I mean yeah Itachi never intended to fight but I have 1 question, Has Jiraya ever underestimated his opponent or boasted that He would kill someone who's power would be greater than his ?

Don't you remember what he did before going up against Pain?, He summoned Gerotora because Pain was the only opponent Jiraya wasn't sure about.

One more thing before posting the pic that show Itachi blocking the Rinnegan view with shuriken, The Rinnegan summons don't think for themself they just do what the Rinnegan user wishes that's why they just charge at the opponent w/out thinking or w/out any strategy.

awesome explanation. i agree with this

 

[Takos]

Here we go again, arguing with the fanboys. minator93 has already explained everything, Itachi can't win this.

 

[FizzyDrink]

Minato wins this,he has all the answers to Itachi's attacks and can come out as the victor if the two of them were to face each other in ideal conditions.

Read the following

Minato vs Sharingan Itachi :

Spoiler

Minato can beat Sharingan Itachi.

Minato has more speed,raw strength,chakra, powerful summons, seals.

Further he did beat Sharingan Tobi.

Minato vs Amaterasu :

Spoiler

A Few thing from wiki :

Spoiler

A using his Lightning Release Armour enhanced Body Flicker Technique avoided a short-range Amaterasu launched at him by Sasuke in an instant.

The only thing that the flames have failed to burn into or through is Gaara's chakra-infused sand. However, the flames burn fairly slowly, sometimes allowing anyone struck by Amaterasu an opportunity to remove whatever clothing or body parts have been caught ablaze. Nagato was able to deflect the flames from his body using Shinra Tensei. Use of the technique also puts a great deal of strain on the user, usually causing their eyes to bleed.

Minato dodged A's FULL speed the picture is in the Susanoo section below.
We've seen that A who wasn't even using his full speed dodged Sasuke's Amaterasu [Which according to Shee was better than Itachi's] at very close range. So Minato can do the same with more ease.

So even if Minato gets hit by Amaterasu he being the fastest of them all and thanks to s/t can save himself by teleporting himself back to his safe house. He did this when Tobi had bombed new-born Naruto.

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Plus Itachi can't use Amaterasu very often it affects him badly because he lacks the Eternal

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One more thing Jiraya sealed Amaterasu. So its safe to assume that Minato being the sealing master he is can do the same with more ease.

Minato vs Tsukuyomi :

Spoiler

Tsukuyomi requires eye contact to be performed. Its a short Ranged Genjutsu and to my knowledge the root knew about it and It hasn't killed a single soul.

Guy was confident to go up against Itachi w/out Eye contact a Jounin os his calibre can fight w/pot eye contact. Further its common knowledge that when fighting a Sharingan user avoid eye contact and that can be done.

For Itachi to trap Minato in tsukuyomi Minato need to look directly into hie eyes and that to at a cllose range which Minato will never do.

In fact Itachi can't afford to keep Minato at a close range because Minato is bad close range match up.

I mean look at all his fights all he does is to get close to the opponent, All those fodders, Tobi even A the raikage...all those pictures are posted below.

Minato vs Susanoo :

Spoiler

Minato can get past Itachi's complete Susanoo -

Here are some photos that shows that Minato can teleport in a radius of few meters around the FTG Kunai

Look at the distance

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Appearing directly above Tobi

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Marked Tobi's Back but attacked from the front

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Teleporting himself to the Kunai

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This is the width of Itachi's Complete Susanoo

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From the above data its pretty clear than minato can get past the susanoo via FTG Kunai i.e. Teleporting Inside of it.

Further once Minato's done that Itachi's end is fixed because his body is under enormous amount of pain He won't be able to defend himself.

There are other ways as well such as marking the ground or stones etc.

Minato can attack the susanoo itself :

Spoiler

Here we can see that Danzo used his Summon against Sasuke's Offensive, long Ranged Complete Susanoo

Spoiler

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And it reduced the Susanoo to the incomplete state, the only reason it failed becasue Fire worked against the wind.

In Minato and Itachi's case Minato can use this on Itachi's Defensive Susanoo

Spoiler

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Don't forget Gamabunata has water style that has advantage against Fire style.

Also this is the same summon that went up against Strong Rinnegan summons held its own against a tailed beast Shukaku and restrained a complete Kurama

Plus Minato can use this as well

Spoiler

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The three most powerful toads :

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Also before saying BS like Itachi can control them via genjutsu Consider Itachi's state and the Chakra being drained from his body [used for maintaining MS and Susanoo]. He can't do shit against them. He is not Nagato!

In fact now that I think about it Itachi cant put up a descent fight if he has to go through all these summmons.

This could also be the thing why Jiraya was so confident when we was up against Itachi and Kisame

Spoiler

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I mean yeah Itachi never intended to fight but I have 1 question, Has Jiraya ever underestimated his opponent or boasted that He would kill someone who's power would be greater than his ?

Don't you remember what he did before going up against Pain?, He summoned Gerotora because Pain was the only opponent Jiraya wasn't sure about.

One more thing before posting the pic that show Itachi blocking the Rinnegan view with shuriken, The Rinnegan summons don't think for themself they just do what the Rinnegan user wishes that's why they just charge at the opponent w/out thinking or w/out any strategy.

Basically everything I wanted to say was said here.

However, there is 1 more strategy that if I'm correct, could in fact be an insta-win (kinda like Kamui but without the chakra cost).

All that needs to be done is Gamabunta uses one of his attacks (like the water cannonball), and then Minato uses his space-time barrier to warp it INTO Itachi's Susanoo. He should be able to do this, because he can warp whatever he wants wherever he wants with this jutsu. Kinda OP if you ask me.

 

[ntel]

Could go either way.

 

[slashestranged]

all i picked up from this thread is that bogard is an idiot

 

[Kira was Righteous]

Either side can win if Itachis Chakra holds up from what we have seen he would beat Minato and his moves can potentially one shot Shinobi

If its a long fight Minato would win as FTG spamming is useful in avoiding One shot haxxed moves

I think it would be whoever s plan works out for the and their both geniuses so go figure

 

[GracefulSerenity]

Don't be surprised, this battle is one of the most undecided battle in the history of the Naruto fandom. I suspect that the debates on this battle will go on until the animators decide to make an OVA about it, or Kishi writes a chapter about it even though that will completely f*ck up the storyline.

 

[ThtOneGuy]

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA so that picture has no eye contact?????
hahahahaha what good logic bogard ur brain really is amusing

and sasuke did not avoid amaterasu
itachi can just amaterasu sasuke in the face the 1st time they meet if he wants to and that will be the fate of minato

my god bogard
how old are you??

well damn at least he is trying to debate without attacking the person he is debating with. since your new you get some slack but this isnt youtube where flaming is welcomed and cursing out someone is the norm. nobody will like you here if you keep flaming.

 

[Sir Blades]

Minato and Itachi are both bad @sses but i think ultimately Minato wins with high diff, both are fast and intelligent and versatile but Minato has more experience.

 

[LifelessKyuubi]

This is a fight id LOVE to see my 2 favorite characters through out naruto idk you got some valid points against minato but his space time could be a problem for itachi considering itachis never seen a move like his before either I think it'd be a draw I couldn't say their both genius' & their both battle hardened its close

 

[TiddlySkydiver]

Yeah Minato wins this mid-difficulty. The only reservation I had was whether or not Itachi could catch Minato in Tsukuyomi. In the pic shown previously in the thread where Minato and Tobi were face to face, there was most likely eye contact there. However, that scenario came from Minato's plan to teleport to the kunia he threw. If we are talking about the Minato that has knowledge from being within Naruto, Minato would know not to look into Itachi's eyes. For the rest of the fight of Minato vs Tobi, Minato did well to avoid eye contact, save for that one time (which at that point Minato had been fighting him for a bit with no sign of Tobi using genjutsu, so Minato was making an informed decision to get that close due to it being his best chance against Tobi's ablilities). If Minato vs Itachi were to happen, the face to face scenario shouldn't play out in the manner it did in the fight with Tobi (with the manga knowledge Minato should have). However, if there was no knowledge either way, I would still give it to Minato, high difficulty.

 

[nomekop]

They are both prodigies that would respect each others prowess. I'd say they are on the same level if you asked me. But Minato certainly has more hype than Itachi. He's called a once in a generation shinobi.