so.. who do you believe is the strongest

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@ bold part, wtf ?

Obito has not senjutsu, he just has Hagoromo's chakra not Hagoromo's Senjutsu chakra. Obito had only Rikudou Senjutsu while being Juubi Jinchurki.

Also you are wrong that Onmyoudon has nothing to do with goudama

Onmyoudon is goudama + erasive ninjutsu ability of yin/yang release.

That why Hiruzen could regenerate while Minato couldn't.
1: Wrong.
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2:Wrong again.
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1: Wrong.
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2:Wrong again.
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I'm done here.
1. you are right that Juubito had Rikudou Senjutsu, so ?

2. Obito stole Rikudou Senjutsu from Madara so what ?

Also Obito's eyes were Rikudou powered not RIkudou senjutsu powered.

You proved nothing .

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^^ Onmyoudon was used along with goudama, unless you believe Juubi's jinchurki itself has properties of Onmydouon but then Kamui is useless against them.
 
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Madara needing the Juubi to replicate a feat that Hagoromo can pull off without the Juubi doesn't mean much.



That scan means nothing. Hagoromo had to have created the moon on his own later on, otherwise how would the Mazo get there? There was probably another way to use the Sealing Jutsu, allowing them to seal the Juubi into Hagoromo. If they really sealed her in the moon right then and there, then Hagoromo never would have been the Juubi's Jin, and we know that he was.



Nope. No Sun and Moon Seal means no Six Paths Chibaku Tensei.
Hagoromo granted his Yin release to Sasuke, like Hagoromo granted Yang release to Naruto.
In order to seal Kaguya, Yin and Yang release is required. Madara received Hagoromo's chakra which is Yin and Yang release in during verge of death, (Rinngean).
Without Yang and Yin Release, Sun and Moon seal are nothing but tattoo mark.
 

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Hagoromo granted his Yin release to Sasuke, like Hagoromo granted Yang release to Naruto.
In order to seal Kaguya, Yin and Yang release is required. Madara received Hagoromo's chakra which is Yin and Yang release in during verge of death, (Rinngean).
Without Yang and Yin Release, Sun and Moon seal are nothing but tattoo mark.
Having Yin and Yang Release doesn't mean that you can use every Yin-Yang Release jutsu out there. He gave them his chakra and the sealing jutsu. The sealing jutsu are embedded in the tattoos, hence them needing to touch Kaguya with them to seal her. They aren't there for decoration alone.

So like I said, no mark=no sealing jutsu.

What I didn't get ?

I just play with me as him.
-Obito took Rikudo Senjutsu Chakra from Madara.

-Obito gave his chakra to Kakashi.

Thus Kakashi has rikudo Senjutsu Chakra, thus his eyes were being powered by Rikudo Senjutsu Chakra.
 

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Who said madara having moon and sun seal is wrong

the seal is special seal like rds that hagoromo created and add or combine the seal power into CT machanisme from rinnegan, the seal is long appeared in hago hand when he fighthing kaguya/juubi.

tHat seal not appear or reappear on his hand, while there are not any seal marking on madara hand and that mean the ct madara using to trapped kaguya is normal ct like nagato done to kurama, not seal base ct
 

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Madara shits on your favourite.
My favorite is my eraser
Ot: I feel like prime Hagoromo is the strongest. Half of his lower, aka Naruto, was stalemating kaguy. Naruto and Sasuke mid diffed Kaguya. I feel like Hagoromo himself at his prime is stronger than kaguya. His version that fought kaguya looked too young
 

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Having Yin and Yang Release doesn't mean that you can use every Yin-Yang Release jutsu out there. He gave them his chakra and the sealing jutsu. The sealing jutsu are embedded in the tattoos, hence them needing to touch Kaguya with them to seal her. They aren't there for decoration alone.

So like I said, no mark=no sealing jutsu.



-Obito took Rikudo Senjutsu Chakra from Madara.

-Obito gave his chakra to Kakashi.

Thus Kakashi has rikudo Senjutsu Chakra, thus his eyes were being powered by Rikudo Senjutsu Chakra.
Ok, I got it.

just using feats:

Kaguya usese"World attack" of acid/lava dimenssion gg
JJ Hagoromo summon spirits from pure world to aid him, He used Ninshu to connect with Obito and paralyze him from inside.
JJ Madara spam soul's ripping gg.

Using hype:

Kaguya, neg diff
JJ Hagoromo, Ninshu spirit blowing from inside, "Godly act" gg
JJ Madara, IT gg

Fan-fic that come from Kishimoto aren't fan-fic.

-Limbo is MS Jutsu
-Kamui without boost isn't a lot more haxed than other MS Jutsu
-Etc

Lel
- Limbo is most likely MS ability of Madara, but deny it if you want
- Kamui was boosted almost all the time, so stay mad if you dislike that fact
- etc... well more bullshit from you, not thanks I am not interested.

lel
 

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Ok, I got it.

just using feats:

Kaguya usese"World attack" of acid/lava dimenssion gg
JJ Hagoromo summon spirits from pure world to aid him, He used Ninshu to connect with Obito and paralyze him from inside.
JJ Madara spam soul's ripping gg.

Using hype:

Kaguya, neg diff
JJ Hagoromo, Ninshu spirit blowing from inside, "Godly act" gg
JJ Madara, IT gg
You can happily post it here:

 

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Ok, I got it.

just using feats:

Kaguya usese"World attack" of acid/lava dimenssion gg
JJ Hagoromo summon spirits from pure world to aid him, He used Ninshu to connect with Obito and paralyze him from inside.
JJ Madara spam soul's ripping gg.

Using hype:

Kaguya, neg diff
JJ Hagoromo, Ninshu spirit blowing from inside, "Godly act" gg
JJ Madara, IT gg



- Limbo is most likely MS ability of Madara, but deny it if you want
- Kamui was boosted almost all the time, so stay mad if you dislike that fact
- etc... well more bullshit from you, not thanks I am not interested.

lel
I agree that either of the three would clown Obito, but lol, that is definitely not how they'd do it.
 

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You can happily post it here:

You don't need to show me the best section for your threads.

I don't need it, save it for yourself, but thanks for trying ;)

I agree that either of the three would clown Obito, but lol, that is definitely not how they'd do it.
So how could they do it ?, show me your version I curious
 

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My favorite is my eraser
Ot: I feel like prime Hagoromo is the strongest. Half of his lower, aka Naruto, was stalemating kaguy. Naruto and Sasuke mid diffed Kaguya. I feel like Hagoromo himself at his prime is stronger than kaguya. His version that fought kaguya looked too young
mature jjhagoromo is technically stronger being in nv because he is well knowledge of his power pluss his mother also inside him
 

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So how could they do it ?, show me your version I curious
I can agree with your world attack scenario for Kaguya. Using her Space Time Portals combined with her All Killing Ash Bones would also work, when he becomes tangible to attack of course.

Madara would clown him with Limbo, as he can't see or sense it coming. The moment he becomes tangible to attack, he gets a hand shoved through his chest.

Hagoromo would destroy him with the Gudo Dama the moment he became tangible to attack as well. Obito isn't fast enough to hang in CQC with any Juubi Jinchuuriki. Not to mention Shinra Tensei also works since Obito can't see it coming, its instant, and with enough force he becomes nothing but one big pile of flesh.
 
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I can agree with your world attack scenario for Kaguya. Using her Space Time Portals combined with her All Killing Ash Bones would also work, when he becomes tangible to attack of course.

Madara would clown him with Limbo, as he can't see or sense it coming. The moment he becomes tangible to attack, he gets a hand shoved through his chest.

Hagoromo would destroy him with the Gudo Dama the moment he became tangible to attack as well. Obito isn't fast enough to hang in CQC with any Juubi Jinchuuriki. Not to mention Shinra Tensei also works since Obito can't see it coming, its instant, and with enough force he becomes nothing but one big pile of flesh.
wow, such clever ways to deal with Obito. I approve this ;)
 

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Madara needing the Juubi to replicate a feat that Hagoromo can pull off without the Juubi doesn't mean much.
Your statement makes no sense since Hagoromo needed 'the strong chakra he inherited from Kaguya (which she got from the fruit)' as you described it a page ago. Then again he didn't even create the moon on his own:

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That scan means nothing. Hagoromo had to have created the moon on his own later on, otherwise how would the Mazo get there? There was probably another way to use the Sealing Jutsu, allowing them to seal the Juubi into Hagoromo. If they really sealed her in the moon right then and there, then Hagoromo never would have been the Juubi's Jin, and we know that he was.
He wasn't the Jin of the full Juubi as far as we know..
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They did, this page proves that it is possible to seal the Juubi right there and then, and become a Jin at the same time:

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