So... What was the point of Kaguya guys?

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The real, most important conflict Kishi established from the beginning that had to be resolved, was between Naruto and Sasuke. That, all of us know.

However, if we withdraw such status as "main character", and look at the condition of the story of a little earlier period from the ending, it is pretty obvious that Kaguya was the center of importance that will decide the fate of humanity's existence as a whole. :P Yeah, sad to think about it, but that fight was way more important in the way of what was at stake.

I think that it would've made way more sense if Naruto and Sasuke kicked Madara's ass, but apprently a villain that was foreshadowed, and fleshed out for hundreds of chapters, is not a right match.

INSTEAD, we got a brand new, mute, crying villain, that somehow gave birth to black goo that puts Aizen's plans to shame... And wants an army of white Zetsu... And dipises everyone... for reasons...

So what was the point of all that plan?!?!?!? She is most powerful being in history of Narutoverse, but arguably the most plot-holed, pointless, nonsensical character with the most laughable reasons for her "malice"...
 
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Because of nonsense. Kaguya most epic fail character in manga history. she put the name god to a shame. SO MUCH POTENTIAL ..... but **** this manga + ending. I was hyped about this ancient stuff...
 

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She was there to look pretty...
 

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Plot device (alongside BZ) to defeat madara, that's all.
 

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She Was Made To kill/Replace madara.
 

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She's the ancestor of all shinobi
Madara thought he was going to gather the bijuus and use the juubi but he was being used to bring the juubi back the whole time
I'm glad the juubi wasn't a pushover and didn't get controlled easily and took over madara I was waiting for it to happen
 

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She's the ancestor of all shinobi
Madara thought he was going to gather the bijuus and use the juubi but he was being used to bring the juubi back the whole time
I'm glad the juubi wasn't a pushover and didn't get controlled easily and took over madara I was waiting for it to happen

Yeah, but was basically controlled by Black Zetsu... Who was some nobody-henchman for 95% of the story, and then turned into some sort of "charismatic", "MUahahahaha" mastermind to be glued to Kaguya's sleeve and give orders...
 

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Plot device (alongside BZ) to defeat madara, that's all.

So Kishi had to bring even stronger villain to defeat Madara... Really...
 

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She was made to kill Madara as well as teasing for the new movie.

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She was made to kill Madara as well as teasing for the new movie.

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Actually, this stuff now makes sense. Thx. There will be some Otsutski roach that is a main antagonist.

Kishi you shill... Ruined your own arc for the sake of that :|
 

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Actually, this stuff now makes sense. Thx. There will be some Otsutski roach that is a main antagonist.

Kishi you shill... Ruined your own arc for the sake of that :|
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Toneri is the main villain of the movie. That being said, he probably is the successor of Hamura that disagreed with Hamura's views.

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She Was Made To kill/Replace madara.

Kaguya was sold to us as the most ancient and most powerful thing in Narutoverse, and the last real villain/antagonist of the story.

If you make a character of importance, that has no explained, reasonable, detailed, >purpose< outside just killing another character, it becomes a writing disaster.
 
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If Kaguya wasn't introduced, you would have no clue what naruto the last's villain would be going on about lol.
 

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So Kishi had to bring even stronger villain to defeat Madara... Really...

Well he did say in an interview that he didn't know how to defeat madara so he had to come up with some way. I'd say that he thought of that when he reached chapter 646 (or 647 I don't remember when she was mentionned the first time).

I didn't mean that as a bad thing necessarily though :)
 

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There had to be a reason why MT was written on the tablet if there wasn't one then hagoromo would look like a bad guy.
 

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I will wait till the movie comes out before I determine her importance.
 

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Well he did say in an interview that he didn't know how to defeat madara so he had to come up with some way. I'd say that he thought of that when he reached chapter 646 (or 647 I don't remember when she was mentionned the first time).

I didn't mean that as a bad thing necessarily though :)

I swear I thought he just said that to hype of the fans towards the battles...

Japanese are too honest... because the way he got rid of him, is definitely something vaguely thought out imo. lol
 
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