~So let me try to understand this character Naruto Uzumaki~

[ANiMUS]

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and what? itachi still mass murdered.

XD if Itachi and Obito's crimes r the same in your eyes then hey far be it from me to try and fix your broken sense of morality.

 

[Dannie]

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Well I'm done, I will try to enjoy Naruto without these stupid threads that just gives me the impression of you don't know how to read a book and understand the main characters and the symbolism in the story these guys don't know art like my teachers says when you read the book more than once you will notice the themes and all the other shit that was blind to you before.

You're too simpleminded to understand Naruto's flaws so you get angry when someone disagrees.

Pretty much what 50% of this thread is doing.

 

[take it easy]

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XD if Itachi and Obito's crimes r the same in your eyes then hey far be it from me to try and fix your broken sense of morality.

they're both mass murderers but by different reasons.

 

[Lana Del Taka]

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why not if people in narutoverse praised mass murdered itachi like hero.

Completely different. Itachi had to do that for the greater good. Not to mention if Itachi didn't do that, not only would the Uchiha be destroyed but also the citizens of Konoha. Obito killed people like Neji because he wanted to break Naruto's spirit

That's why i said he should read all of those last 4 panels and take context into account. And so should you.





What feelings are you talking about. Those people you mentioned had nothing to do with Narutos comments, that's the fact. But you fail to admit it.

Yes they do, what are you talking about. Naruto is calling a person who killed his friends and countless other shinobi cool. Imagine if someone killed your whole family and another person called that guy cool, would you be happy about that?

 

[bencoby]

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Are you kidding? Their parents were killed by Obito, yet they have nothing to do with Naruto saying Obito is the "coolest guy"? How would you feel if your best friend called the murderer of you parents or your family member the "coolest guy ever"?

Do you know your problem now?, you are focused too much on Obito. I agree and it true he is a bad guy. However you should also look at Naruto, his feelings and what he said before he made that comment.

I would not spoon feed you, you figure it out yoursef.

 

[ANiMUS]

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they're both mass murderers but by diffetent reasons.

And those reasons don't matter???
XD

Do you know your problem now?, you are focused too much on Obito. I agree and it true he is a bad guy. However you should also look at Naruto, his feelings and what he said before he made that comment.

I would not spoon feed you, you figure it out yoursef.

Sorry, to butt in, but I also asked you to explain your reasoning a while ago and you kinda ignored it. You said that Naruto was only referencing the Hokage position, but I am still in the dark as to how you came to that conclusion. If you u can't properly eloquate your reasoning then u should just say so.

 

[Loki d]

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You're too simpleminded to understand Naruto's flaws so you get angry when someone disagrees.

Pretty much what 50% of this thread is doing.

I know he has flaws like the rasengan variations and other stuff but most of the flaws that were posted were false or misunderstood

 

[Made in Heaven]

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and what? itachi still mass murdered.

Reasons. Remember the reasons

 

[bencoby]

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Completely different. Itachi had to do that for the greater good. Not to mention if Itachi didn't do that, not only would the Uchiha be destroyed but also the citizens of Konoha. Obito killed people like Neji because he wanted to break Naruto's spirit


Yes they do, what are you talking about. Naruto is calling a person who killed his friends and countless other shinobi cool. Imagine if someone killed your whole family and another person called that guy cool, would you be happy about that?

Like i said to the other guy, you are focused too much on Obito and his flaws and thas your mistake.
I agrer Obito is a bad guy and needs to go to hell but you should read the whole manga, look at the contex in which Naruto is speaking before coming to conclusion.

 

[take it easy]

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Completely different. Itachi had to do that for the greater good. Not to mention if Itachi didn't do that, not only would the Uchiha be destroyed but also the citizens of Konoha.

Reasons. Remember the reasons

obito killed peoples for made IT which he thought would make everyone happy and destroy pain and suffering in the whole world.

 

[ugh]

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[video=youtube;F9cEqnsg0eI]http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=F9cEqnsg0eI[/video]
Thank me later.

 

[KisuneUchiha]

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Do you know your problem now?, you are focused too much on Obito. I agree and it true he is a bad guy. However you should also look at Naruto, his feelings and what he said before he made that comment.

I would not spoon feed you, you figure it out yoursef.

I understand that NARUTO felt a bond with Obito, but it ties into what the OP was saying, did Naruto take into consideration anyone else's feelings about him? No.

True, Obito was the coolest person (from Naruto's standpoint and possibly Kakashi's as well) but any rational person, upon hearing that and what was done recently, not even a day ago, wouldn't really like Naruto saying that. It is like Naruto took a shit on Neji's corpse (figuratively). I am sorry but myself, as well as realistic people, just do not agree with your ideals.

 

[ANiMUS]

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obito killed peoples for made IT which he thought would make everyone happy and destroy pain and suffering in the whole world.

That sounds like Danzo. He thought his way was for the good of the world as well. Itachi however was a child forced to make a decision in which there was massive loss no matter what he did. Itachi just chose the lesser of two evil, because he felt that these were his only choices.

 

[Lana Del Taka]

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obito killed peoples for made IT which he thought would make everyone happy and destroy pain and suffering in the whole world.

And that way is wrong. Instead of letting people find peace their own way, he decided his way was the right way and everyone else's is wrong.

 

[Dannie]

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obito killed peoples for made IT which he thought would make everyone happy and destroy pain and suffering in the whole world.

So, that's your reason for equating Itachi and Obito. His selfish resolve of trying to accomplish the IT to make everyone happy brings you to the conclusion that he is a not a bad character?

The only reason why you are defending Obito right now is because he believes in Naruto and has been converted into a Naruto fanboy, while you turn on Itachi because he's an Uchiha.

Your mind is flawed just like Naruto's.

 

[Pumpkin Ninja]

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And that way is wrong. Instead of letting people find peace their own way, he decided his way was the right way and everyone else's is wrong.

Yep, and he changed.

 

[take it easy]

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Itachi however was a child forced to make a decision in which there was massive loss no matter what he did. Itachi just chose the lesser of two evil, because he felt that these were his only choices.

Itachi himself admitted that his decision was a mistake.

 

[RaitonOniKairRasengan]

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So, that's your reason for equating Itachi and Obito. His selfish resolve of trying to accomplish the IT to make everyone happy brings you to the conclusion that he is a not a bad character?

The only reason why you are defending Obito right now is because he believes in Naruto and has been converted into a Naruto fanboy, while you turn on Itachi because he's an Uchiha.

Your mind is flawed just like Naruto's.

That wasn't even obitos idea to begin with, so its not really his resolve. He did carry it out however that's the same case as itachi.

 

[bencoby]

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I understand that NARUTO felt a bond with Obito, but it ties into what the OP was saying, did Naruto take into consideration anyone else's feelings about him? No.

True, Obito was the coolest person (from Naruto's standpoint and possibly Kakashi's as well) but any rational person, upon hearing that and what was done recently, not even a day ago, wouldn't really like Naruto saying that. It is like Naruto took a shit on Neji's corpse (figuratively). I am sorry but myself, as well as realistic people, just do not agree with your ideals.

I know the so called "realistic" people you are talking about, but so am I. You see again Neji and the rest had nothing to do with Narutos comments.

When I say comments I ment all of it and not just a part of it that you guys are standing on just to bash Naruto.
For example you guy are only interested in "He is the coolest guy in the world". What about "Obito wanted to become the Hokage", should we just sweep that part under the carpet huh?. You answer me.

 

[Lana Del Taka]

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Yep, and he changed.

Are you agreeing with me?

Itachi himself admitted that his decision was a mistake.

Doesn't matter if he told Sasuke. Danzo was gonna take action immediately.