So about Zetsu altering the tablet....

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I'll throw in my 2 cents. It is stated that the current tablet, which is a 100% fabrication by BZ, needs the Sharingan/MS/Rinnegan to decipher. I think we can all agree to that. But.... whose to say that the ORIGINAL tablet did, or that it needed a Dojutsu at all to read? If Hagoromos true purpose for the tablet was to warn his children, and transmigrations to reconsider their attempt to aquire his power, why would he encoded it in a way that could only be deciphered AFTER they had already done what he had written for them NOT to do? I believe the original tablet had no such writing, he wrote it for both his sons, one of which did not have a dojutsu. This is how BZ was able to read the tablet, and its not that difficult to write a message in a manner that you yourself cant read. Its doable that BZ merely wrote the new message in a manner that needs a dojutsu to decipher.
How would BZ be capable of rewriting the tablet so that it requires a doujutsu? Sounds like a stretch to me. We know that Ashura had the Sharingan, its likely the tablet required Sharingan from the start.
 

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Oro and Kabuto deciphered it in a couple of decades and BZ has been alive since kaguya was sealed...
Hmm I don't think you can make that comparison so easily. Yes, it took Kabuto and Oro decades to theorize accurately what was on the tablet, but they never deciphered it. Its not like they could surpass the sharingan requirement, rather they did research related to the tablet's contents over those years. Point being, they were doing research on senju DNA and the sharingan for decades and came to the conclusion that sharingan + senju DNA = Rinnegan. You can mostly chalk this up to plot, however, considering making that leap is illogical even with that much time and research.

But to reiterate, they never gained the ability to read/ alter the contents of the tablet, just theorized about it. Therefore, even with a millennia on his hands, there is no way Zetsu could ever gain the ability to read/alter the contents of the tablet, which is what he said he did.
 

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What if... it didn't originally need dōjutsu, but BZ made it so that you do need it? That way the Senju wouldn't notice the alterations/additions...
Someone proposed that idea on this thread already. Question is, how could he possibly alter it to require a doujutsu when he himself does not have one?
 

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Hagoromo wrote the tablet in his own language (we saw the difference in talking style in the chapter where Naruto meets Hagoromo)
Black Zetsu is from Hagoromo's time. He knows what's written and can easily change it.
 

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Someone proposed that idea on this thread already. Question is, how could he possibly alter it to require a doujutsu when he himself does not have one?
Ah, I am deeply ashamed. I thought I skimmed through enough lol

Umm idk, it would be like a plot justu. There've been plenty of those, like Minato knowing to place his and Kushina's chakras in the seal inside Naruto that were meant to activate at very specific times... what hand seals do you suppose mean "just before the ninth tail comes out" and "just about when Naruto decides to fight the Kyuubi but begins to lose at a chakra tug-of-war"...? These are plot jutsus that are never explained. I'm sure there are more examples but I'm too tired to think of any.

BZ has lived longer than any character, and is the only character that's alive that knew Kaguya and friends lol... it's not surprising that he knows exactly how the sharingan/rinnegan works. Maybe Kaguya gave him the knowledge directly. It's all her plan, after all. Supposedly.
 

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He has some sort of dojustu as well. He has recorded things his whole life. He a child of Kaguya who is known to have dojustu. I dont see why people are questioning it.
except BZ has no dojutsu :erm:

Kabuto read it why not bz?
Kabuto didn't read it, he was seen telling Madara that he and Orochimaru were only able to form a hypothesis from it.

The Fist Hokage Gave Madara the tablet that was in Senju care as a present Who to say Black Zetsu did not make Madara see what Black Zetsu wanted Madara to see and have Him re wright it without Madara's Knowledge.
that tablet has been with the Uchiha long before Hashirama was ever born. He never even knew about it before Madara invited him to the Naka Shrine lolz
 

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We only know the current tablet has these dojutsu requirements. Black Zetsu erased what Hagoromo wrote there previously. It's very likely he put that requirement in when he rewrote it.

Hagoromo wanted to teach Ninshuu, help people understnad each other. Why should he made that impossible to read for nearly everyone? Black Zetsu on the other hand wrote a secret world domination plan on there, and wanted a single special Uchiha with powerful eyes who would awaken the Rinnegan to read it.
 

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Ah, I am deeply ashamed. I thought I skimmed through enough lol

Umm idk, it would be like a plot justu. There've been plenty of those, like Minato knowing to place his and Kushina's chakras in the seal inside Naruto that were meant to activate at very specific times... what hand seals do you suppose mean "just before the ninth tail comes out" and "just about when Naruto decides to fight the Kyuubi but begins to lose at a chakra tug-of-war"...? These are plot jutsus that are never explained. I'm sure there are more examples but I'm too tired to think of any.

BZ has lived longer than any character, and is the only character that's alive that knew Kaguya and friends lol... it's not surprising that he knows exactly how the sharingan/rinnegan works. Maybe Kaguya gave him the knowledge directly. It's all her plan, after all. Supposedly.
Kaguya gave him direct knowledge? How could she give him knowledge to write text that you need the sharingan for? I don't understand. If its written to require sharingan, how can he write it without sharingan?

We only know the current tablet has these dojutsu requirements. Black Zetsu erased what Hagoromo wrote there previously. It's very likely he put that requirement in when he rewrote it.

Hagoromo wanted to teach Ninshuu, help people understnad each other. Why should he made that impossible to read for nearly everyone? Black Zetsu on the other hand wrote a secret world domination plan on there, and wanted a single special Uchiha with powerful eyes who would awaken the Rinnegan to read it.
You're the third person to propose this idea on this thread, but I'll repeat myself. How could he build in the requirement of having Sharingan to read it if he himself did not have it? I don't understand how its possible without having the doujutsu in the first place.

Indra had sharingan so the sage knew of its existence and its possible he created the requirement.
 

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Kaguya gave him direct knowledge? How could she give him knowledge to write text that you need the sharingan for? I don't understand. If its written to require sharingan, how can he write it without sharingan?



You're the third person to propose this idea on this thread, but I'll repeat myself. How could he build in the requirement of having Sharingan to read it if he himself did not have it? I don't understand how its possible without having the doujutsu in the first place.

Indra had sharingan so the sage knew of its existence and its possible he created the requirement.
Maybe he took over some fodder Uchiha's body and wrote it. Who knows. I understand why it confuses you, and trust me it makes no sense to me either, but I think this is pretty standard Kishi logic, that you don't need to have a sharingan to know how to make something only visible to a sharingan; you need merely to understand how it works. Doesn't the Hyuuga clan death seal thing seal away the byakugan after the Branch House Hyuuga die, to "protect its secrets?" They want that information hidden. Plus, yes I know, so that other people don't use byakugan, but they definitely use the words "protect its secrets", but I'm too lazy to find that panel.

Another example of "knowing the secrets" of a dojutsu is Kabuto and his second eyelids that he uses to protect against sharingan genjutsu. How would he know how to devise something that works against the sharingan without having sharingan himself? Magic--I mean, "knowing its secrets"...
 
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