SMT: Persona FC

[Naoya Minato]

The anime convention would've been more fun if I was with more people, but alas my friends aside from maybe one aren't into the whole anime thing. Without further ado, here are some crappy cell phone pictures:

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My semi-failed cosplay. Headphones broke so I didn't get the character (Devil Survivor) right. Due to my internship I couldn't completely dye my hair blue, so that was messed up as well. Overall, not that bad of a first cosplay I guess.

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PERSONA 5.

THE TRAILER is OUT.

BRB JUMPING OUT OF WINDOW.

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Reported for double posting Jk...

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So we now know the MC's design and the reveal that it'll be available on the PS4. This person summed it up nicely:

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Also, how the hell did this get 6 thumbs up?

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I've honestly never looked forward to a game this muich.

 

[Magatsu Izanagi]

The anime convention would've been more fun if I was with more people, but alas my friends aside from maybe one aren't into the whole anime thing. Without further ado, here are some crappy cell phone pictures:

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My semi-failed cosplay. Headphones broke so I didn't get the character (Devil Survivor) right. Due to my internship I couldn't completely dye my hair blue, so that was messed up as well. Overall, not that bad of a first cosplay I guess.

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Reported for double posting Jk...

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[video=youtube;symObFpKbY0]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=symObFpKbY0[/video]

So we now know the MC's design and the reveal that it'll be available on the PS4. This person summed it up nicely:

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Also, how the hell did this get 6 thumbs up?

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I've honestly never looked forward to a game this muich.

I thought that was you in the first pic for a second LMAO. Nice pics

Dude that's not half bad. Especially if it's your first cosplay. Nice hair

Dude the hype is real. Same here, I don't think I've ever been more pumped...

That guy doesn't know what he's talking about, and neither do the 6 people who liked his comment haha. S. Links are a wonderful component of gameplay.

Once Adachi posts I'll let you know something hidden that you all missed in the trailer

 

[Souji]

Lookin' gud, Naoya! Thanks for sharing the pictures, looks like it was fun U_U you should get a blue wig though, you resemble Minato in a lot of ways.

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(^my faith in humanity has been lost)

 

[Inichi Matsuka]

I'd love to join, if you'd be so kind as to welcome me in.

 

[Naoya Minato]

The Persona 5 main character already has a nickname.

It didn't take long before people started calling him ''Potter''.

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''You're in Persona, Harry.''

[video=youtube;evv-W19sMQE]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=evv-W19sMQE[/video]

...I simply love the internet from time to time. It's Revolver Jesus all over again.

I'd love to join, if you'd be so kind as to welcome me in.

I'd be happy to, Inichi. Welcome.~

I thought that was you in the first pic for a second LMAO. Nice pics

Dude that's not half bad. Especially if it's your first cosplay. Nice hair

Dude the hype is real. Same here, I don't think I've ever been more pumped...

That guy doesn't know what he's talking about, and neither do the 6 people who liked his comment haha. S. Links are a wonderful component of gameplay.

Once Adachi posts I'll let you know something hidden that you all missed in the trailer

Thanks, Magatsu.

I know. U_U The Social Links are vital to Persona. It's one of the unique features of Persona that made Persona 3 so damn popular and groundbreaking.

What? Missed what? ._.

Lookin' gud, Naoya! Thanks for sharing the pictures, looks like it was fun U_U you should get a blue wig though, you resemble Minato in a lot of ways.

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(^my faith in humanity has been lost)

Thanks, Souji. ^^ I noticed three people cosplaying as Dojima, Chie and Minato. I might try Minato next year.

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More people are supporting it. They are basically saying ''Let's take everything Persona has become, rip it apart, and turn it into an entirely different game''. Go play LITERALLY any other SMT game if you want that. Persona is Persona.

 

[Magatsu Izanagi]

Just got home, I'm tired AF, I'll reply to everything in a bit.
BUT:

YOUR PARTY MEMBERS (or at least the starting ones) ARE VISIBLE ON A BILLBOARD.

They show Persona style face-shots of a few people. It's close to the 2min mark IIRC, I'll give the exact time when I get back.

 

[Naoya Minato]

Just got home, I'm tired AF, I'll reply to everything in a bit.
BUT:

YOUR PARTY MEMBERS (or at least the starting ones) ARE VISIBLE ON A BILLBOARD.

They show Persona style face-shots of a few people. It's close to the 2min mark IIRC, I'll give the exact time when I get back.

Yes, at 38 seconds. Someone pointed that out in the comment section. They are barely visible, though.

 

[Kagerou]

The Persona 5 protagonist looks awesome.

 

[Magatsu Izanagi]

Yes, at 38 seconds. Someone pointed that out in the comment section. They are barely visible, though.

Oh... well here I thought I was "Ace Detective" Magatsu, guess not

LMFAO @ the Harry Potter vid. I'm done.

About the people wanting no S. Links:

My guess is that these people are P1/2 fans. I've seen a few who bash all the more 'modern', less-SMT features of 3/4 claiming that they're inferior to the old-school gameplay mechanics.

I myself am a big fan of 1 and 2 (I even think Innocent Sin is better than P3 in some ways), but even I can admit that S. Links are an amazing and creative feature. Claiming they're dumb or unnecessary is just being done from fanboying 1/2 or to insult newer, "mainstream" Persona fans, who they see as bandwagoners.

The Persona 5 protagonist looks awesome.

I was disappointed at first, but his design is growing on me... reminds me of the P1 protagonist in some ways.

 

[Naoya Minato]

Anyway, I'm sure everyone has read this already, but I'll post it anyway.

Unlike Catherine, which used the Gamebryo engine, Persona 5 will be made with a new engine. Before it was decided that the game would be released exclusively for the PlayStation 3, it was also discussed internally to move the series to mobile gaming devices like the PlayStation Vita or smartphones. Eventually, Hashino and his team chose the PlayStation 3 and PlayStation 4 as they felt that fans would love to see another game for home consoles.

The story of Persona 5 will discuss the hardships of modern-day society and feature characters that are restrained by the rules set by this society. As a result, players will be confronted with trials and chains that they will have to overcome. Much like the previous installments of the series the game is set in a high school - however, the mood and tone will be different. Hashino explains that Persona 5 is about a kind of freedom that is different from the other games in the series. This freedom is meant to liberate those who "are bored and discontent with their lives". Despite this, Atlus expects and wants players of Persona 3 and Persona 4 to feel at home with this game. Persona 5 is meant to be an emotional experience that stirs up its audience and finally lets them go with a strong message of catharsis after everything is said and done.

Persona 5 seems to go down a much more realistic path than any other Persona game. The bolded texts make me believe that while in Persona 4 the characters faced their own shadows, Persona 5 will make you, the player, face your own sort of ''shadow'' as well.

My guess is that these people are P1/2 fans. I've seen a few who bash all the more 'modern', less-SMT features of 3/4 claiming that they're inferior to the old-school gameplay mechanics.

I myself am a big fan of 1 and 2 (I even think Innocent Sin is better than P3 in some ways), but even I can admit that S. Links are an amazing and creative feature. Claiming they're dumb or unnecessary is just being done from fanboying 1/2 or to insult newer, "mainstream" Persona fans, who they see as bandwagoners.

I recently started Persona 3 FES, and I never noticed the Innocent Sin reference. Persona 1 was my first Persona game, and after that I tried Persona 3 right away, so I wasn't incredibly aware of the impacts of Social Links yet, so I ended up never doing that MMORPG social link. Now I finally noticed the Tatsuya and Maya reference.

Persona 1...it's like the first Final Fantasy. I mean, Persona 1 is better than ''Final Fantasy 1'', but in terms of aging they both simply can't compete with the high standards modern gaming has brought us. I simply could not bring myself to finish Persona 1, not even the PSP version. The story was not very captivating, either.

I'm starting Persona 2 on my PSP tomorrow. I have high hopes for that game. I wanted to type a lot more, but I'll quit for now.

The Persona 5 protagonist looks awesome.

Same as Magatsu. U_U At first I thought he looked a little strange, but now I kind of like his design.

 

[Magatsu Izanagi]

I recently started Persona 3 FES, and I never noticed the Innocent Sin reference. Persona 1 was my first Persona game, and after that I tried Persona 3 right away, so I wasn't incredibly aware of the impacts of Social Links yet, so I ended up never doing that MMORPG social link. Now I finally noticed the Tatsuya and Maya reference.

Persona 1...it's like the first Final Fantasy. I mean, Persona 1 is better than ''Final Fantasy 1'', but in terms of aging they both simply can't compete with the high standards modern gaming has brought us. I simply could not bring myself to finish Persona 1, not even the PSP version. The story was not very captivating, either.

I'm starting Persona 2 on my PSP tomorrow. I have high hopes for that game. I wanted to type a lot more, but I'll quit for now.

I agree with you about Persona 1. In no way can it compete with current standards, it hasn't aged well

The story... that's a different debate. While I agree it didn't have the best one, a lot of it is heavily inspired by Jungian psychology (where the term "Persona" comes from). I actually read up on it and gave it another go, and found it to be a little more interesting.

I still love it to death though, as I do the other games

Ahh, P2. I'm sure you'll enjoy it.
If you're irritated by the high random-encounter rate, lemme know. There are a few ways you can "bypass" it, to varying degrees.

 

[Magatsu Izanagi]

Anyway, I'm sure everyone has read this already, but I'll post it anyway.



Persona 5 seems to go down a much more realistic path than any other Persona game. The bolded texts make me believe that while in Persona 4 the characters faced their own shadows, Persona 5 will make you, the player, face your own sort of ''shadow'' as well.

Damn this sounds epic. I'm pumped. Good point with the "facing your own shadow". Will we get our own Personas, too?

(Actually, in all seriousness, we technically could. Just not the "flashy" kind:

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I'll wait for Souji and Adachi to get in the loop before I talk about what I think the shining thing at the end of the trailer was (assuming it's a Shadow).

 

[Souji]

MCPotter looks pretty savvy, honestly. I think, based on his character design, he'll have somewhat of a more intelligible air about himself, almost to the point of a sense of alienation from the mainstream, which could relate to the story in some ways (OMG, the first "hipster" protagonist, great...) I've always liked discussing character design and how they relate to what said character is like, or how they will be.

As for the removal of Social Links, I think SLs broke Persona away from SMT after 3. Few RPGs can claim to have a system as unique as them. Removing them turns Persona into any other RPG. What I'm hoping for are more dynamic and consequential SLs that encourage more than one playthrough. Something more complex that adds to the story as a whole. I also wonder if we'll get larger areas to explore since this is going to be on the PS3 and PS4... there's a lot I want to see, but what do you guys want from P5?

And damn, I didn't notice the :38 thing. Some people are just eagle eyed >_>" a wild guess, but do you think the colored people in the left are like some kind of Neo Featherman reference? Or some kind of JPOP band? References to Yukari or Rise? I dunno if that's grasping for straws but idk, lol

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^this is avatar worthy xd

Adachi tells me he's pretty busy with some RL things, but hopefully he'll be back soon.

 

[Kagerou]

The main char's persona in P5 will look badass.

I can already feel it.

Must have to do with those purple flames, Idk. xD

 

[Magatsu Izanagi]

Well, my lengthy post regarding what I want to see in P5 apparently never got posted, as the WiFi I had access to cut out 2 seconds after I hit "post reply".

No matter, I'll rewrite it in a bit...

 

[Magatsu Izanagi]

What I want to see from Persona 5:

-Gameplay:

Keep the P4 formula in terms of dungeon crawling and battles, adding new features and tweaks here and there. As long as it isn't a step down in any way from P4, I'll be happy.

I'd like to see other aspects such as "exploring" the city to take advantage of current-gen hardware. Bigger/more detailed environments, etc. I love Persona's and SMT's art style, so it would be a shame to not maximize it to the fullest with PS3/4 tech.

I want to see S. Links have some more weight over the story, as Souji mentioned. If I make a choice that goes against the morals conveyed by the plot, I want to see it impact it I'm such a way (not too much, though. I don't want to slip up and not get the True Ending on my 1st try )

Other than that, I just want them to surprise me and amaze me with new content, and I'm sure they'll deliver.

-Story:

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Ideally, P5 would link up all the games in the series. From Arena, we know that Nyarlathotep is back (he's the one who was appearing as Aigis'(?) Shadow in P4A, the villain from P2 and to a certain extent P1), and is probably gonna be the main villain in P5 unless they take him out in Ultimax, which I doubt. His presence already opens the door to some of the P1/2 cast coming back (Shadow Operatives, anyone?)

I'd want Potter and co. to do their own thing for most of the game, then towards the end meet up with the P1/2/3.4 cast to face off against Nyarly once and for all. There's a theory going around that he wants to obtain Minato's body (or something like that), so maybe as the final fight, Potter could team up with P1MC, Tatsuya, and Yu to fight against a possessed Minato. That would be epic.

In terms of P5-specific plot:
I want to see Potter and the other wizards party members realize that they are slaves to society, and break free (which is when they'll obtain their Personas).

Then, they'd go around to areas like the crowded street in the trailer (serving as dungeons), and fight Shadows who are actually negatively influencing humanity to "conform".

I want the cast's character designs to be unique and full of individuality. I want them to look like the kind of people who could give a f-ck about conforming to the mainstream fashion trends. I want them to stand out.
For some reason, I'm reminded a little of TWEWY's cast when I think of this.

S. Links would delve deeply into the concept of being bound by something, and Potter would help people break free from their individual "shackles", so to speak.

-Music:

I want Punk rock, mixed with a bit of rap. Something à la Rage Against the Machine, as Souji and I discussed a while back. I think the whole rebellious style of punk (and some rap, to a certain extent) would fit well with P5. If I may quote a RaTM song: " F@#$ YOU, I WON'T DO WHAT YOU TELL ME!!"

That's about it as far as my initial thoughts go

 

[Naoya Minato]

I don't want Persona 5 to have any or at the very least very little connections to Persona 1-4. A gathering of all the Persona characters...I wouldn't like that, either.

The antagonist of Arena is simply known as the ''malevolent Entity''. The fact that it's Nyarlathotep is still speculation. There is a lot of evidence to conclude that it is him, but once again it is unconfirmed.

This ''Malevolent Entity's'' goal in Ultimax is to look for the ''The One True Vessel'' which may very likely be Minato. In Persona 4 Golden Yosuke mentions a certain ''incident'' in May, which is a reference to the Persona 4 Arena incident, meaning that during the after-credits of Persona 4 Golden, the events of Persona 4 Arena already happened and were most likely resolved.

Not to mention that Nyarlathotep should be insanely weakened by now, and wouldn't be able to stand against the cast of Persona 3 + The cast of Persona 4. The cast of Persona 2 is naturally stronger than P3 (bar Minato) and P4, but combined is a different story. They also have Elizabeth. She can beat Erebus in a matter of seconds on her own.

 

[Magatsu Izanagi]

I don't want Persona 5 to have any or at the very least very little connections to Persona 1-4. A gathering of all the Persona characters...I wouldn't like that, either.

The antagonist of Arena is simply known as the ''malevolent Entity''. The fact that it's Nyarlathotep is still speculation. There is a lot of evidence to conclude that it is him, but once again it is unconfirmed.

This ''Malevolent Entity's'' goal in Ultimax is to look for the ''The One True Vessel'' which may very likely be Minato. In Persona 4 Golden Yosuke mentions a certain ''incident'' in May, which is a reference to the Persona 4 Arena incident, meaning that during the after-credits of Persona 4 Golden, the events of Persona 4 Arena already happened and were most likely resolved.

Not to mention that Nyarlathotep should be insanely weakened by now, and wouldn't be able to stand against the cast of Persona 3 + The cast of Persona 4. The cast of Persona 2 is naturally stronger than P3 (bar Minato) and P4, but combined is a different story. They also have Elizabeth. She can beat Erebus in a matter of seconds on her own.

I can agree with you on the first bit. I want P5 to have it's own, standalone story. But I also don't want the whole ME, Shadow Operatives, etc situation to just be resolved at the end of Ultimax and then P4/3/2/1 is never touched again. I suppose they could just make another game (an RPG ofc) and resolve it there (giving the respective casts a proper send off) instead of using P5 as a way to finish it.

Fair enough, but I'm 90% sure it's Nyarly. Aside from the hints that it is him, ME fits his character perfectly. A master of manipulation, and the way he speaks indicates he is "above" humanity.

Tatsuya neg diffs Elizabeth, Minato, and Yu at the same time I agree with him being weakened, which is probably why he wants Minato's body in the first place (Orochimaru much?). He is the strongest Persona-user in history, after all.

At this point all we can do is speculate about how things are gonna go down from here. Ultimax will be the deciding factor in how the story will proceed

 

[Naoya Minato]

I can agree with you on the first bit. I want P5 to have it's own, standalone story. But I also don't want the whole ME, Shadow Operatives, etc situation to just be resolved at the end of Ultimax and then P4/3/2/1 is never touched again. I suppose they could just make another game (an RPG ofc) and resolve it there (giving the respective casts a proper send off) instead of using P5 as a way to finish it.

Fair enough, but I'm 90% sure it's Nyarly. Aside from the hints that it is him, ME fits his character perfectly. A master of manipulation, and the way he speaks indicates he is "above" humanity.

Tatsuya neg diffs Elizabeth, Minato, and Yu at the same time I agree with him being weakened, which is probably why he wants Minato's body in the first place (Orochimaru much?). He is the strongest Persona-user in history, after all.

At this point all we can do is speculate about how things are gonna go down from here. Ultimax will be the deciding factor in how the story will proceed

Exactly.

I also believe it's him, it's just unconfirmed. Naturally Philemon and Nyarly will always exist.

I still love the fact that he's so strong. Minato already had natural talent as a Persona-user, and was enhanced by Death, so he reached a level unlike any other Persona user. Although, do keep in mind that taking control of Minato means the return of Nyx.

My inner Persona fanboy would love a fight between Minato enhanced Nyarlathotep vs Every other Persona user, but from a story perspective it wouldn't be very good.

 

[Magatsu Izanagi]

Exactly.

I also believe it's him, it's just unconfirmed. Naturally Philemon and Nyarly will always exist.

I still love the fact that he's so strong. Minato already had natural talent as a Persona-user, and was enhanced by Death, so he reached a level unlike any other Persona user. Although, do keep in mind that taking control of Minato means the return of Nyx.

My inner Persona fanboy would love a fight between Minato enhanced Nyarlathotep vs Every other Persona user, but from a story perspective it wouldn't be very good.

Minato also has the "Universe" Arcana, essentially cementing him as the GOAT

Nyx returning would be interesting. Maybe if Nyarly is back, he could defeat him? (Assuming he's been weakened a tad bc of being sealed for so long, and Nyarly is back at 100%)

Yeah I agree. It would probably be better if they released one giant fanservice game where that happens instead of incorporating it into the main story.

But honestly, I need to find out what the Persona 1 MC did during the events of P2 and why he left after P1, since he shows up at the end of Eternal Punishment (well, it's ASSUMED it's him), and the game ends before he says anything. There are a few other things like this that I'd like to see wrapped up.