[Discussion] Smoking

Avani

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You are judging smokers from the few you have met,but then again,it is for the human brain to remember all bad about a subject it cannot comprehend.

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And your point is?Alcohol is deadly too,I don`t see you bitching about it.

Ah NO. NOcturnal- You are judging my experience with smokers based on zero information about me. You cannot comprehend what I have seen and what not. Even in this thread itself (you said that non smokers could post too - then only I posted) I got rude answer back almost as soon as I posted. I ignored it- that's another matter. At least 3 quite rude messages (Not yours) are here itself. Do you think many of them would react verydifferently in RL. Granted it's easy to bash one on internet even then it reflects basic atitude.

Secondly, I'm from one of the most populated countries in the world. I travell a lot. Have had an Ex who smoked heavily and a few uncles as well. Suffered through a very bad spell of coughing for months. Doctors were not ready to believe that no one at home was a smoker at the time and it was just the smkoe outside.

My father is badly allergic to cigerate smoking and he had a touring job as well.

I would tell you how I ended up with an ex who smoked for a considerable time but, it's too personal to announce it on internet.

Alchohal if you have not lost control doesn't affect others only your own health and your family maybe.
 

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Ah NO. NOcturnal- You are judging my experience with smokers based on zero information about me. You cannot comprehend what I have seen and what not. Even in this thread itself (you said that non smokers could post too - then only I posted) I got rude answer back almost as soon as I posted. I ignored it- that's another matter. At least 3 quite rude messages (Not yours) are here itself. Do you think many of them would react verydifferently in RL. Granted it's easy to bash one on internet even then it reflects basic atitude.

Secondly, I'm from one of the most populated countries in the world. I travell a lot. Have had an Ex who smoked heavily and a few uncles as well. Suffered through a very bad spell of coughing for months. Doctors were not ready to believe that no one at home was a smoker at the time and it was just the smkoe outside.

My father is badly allergic to cigerate smoking and he had a touring job as well.

I would tell you how I ended up with an ex who smoked for a considerable time but, it's too personal to announce it on internet.

Alchohal if you have not lost control doesn't affect others only your own health and your family maybe.
Once again I do not want to be offensive, but what you say implies on yourself as well. Your behavior towards smokers is the one you have from your own experience, and by that, you judge us on one post while you have no idea who we are. How can someones attitude be reflected by smoking? We merely state the things we like and dislike, just as you do (this is a discussion after all).

And you say that alcohol doesn't affect others, but alcohol does affect others indirectly, and you state yourself that it might affect your family, which makes you contradict yourself already.
 

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I know quite many smokers, and they are normal people, but as I've had some not-so-fun experiences with smoking, I'm not planing to start smoking myself. U_U

A pity: most of the smokers I know are my classmates and, from the looks of it, they smoke to show off. :|
 

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is it TOO hard to stop smoking? have you ever plan to stop smoking?

i'm not bashing you smokers, just wanna know...:y
I found the habit of smoking harder to leave be than the actual smoking itself.


I know quite many smokers, and they are normal people, but as I've had some not-so-fun experiences with smoking, I'm not planing to start smoking myself. U_U

A pity: most of the smokers I know are my classmates and, from the looks of it, they smoke to show off. :|
Yea... That is how youngsters are.
 

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I smoked for years, and was able to quit cold turkey for 3 years. I quit simply because of the cost. This was back when they went from like $2.50 to $5.00 a pack.

Then I started again. I hate spending money on it, and trying to quit cold turkey has been rough. A couple of my co-workers smoke, and have tried to quit as well, but we all willingly aid in enabling each other to smoke. I have some patches and gum, I guess after what I have left of the pack I have I will start using those, and do my best to quit again for good. Funny really as it is, I just lit up the last cancer stick in the pack I have. Wish me luck, and good luck to those that are also trying to quit.
 

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Once again I do not want to be offensive, but what you say implies on yourself as well. Your behavior towards smokers is the one you have from your own experience, and by that, you judge us on one post while you have no idea who we are. How can someones attitude be reflected by smoking? We merely state the things we like and dislike, just as you do (this is a discussion after all).

And you say that alcohol doesn't affect others, but alcohol does affect others indirectly, and you state yourself that it might affect your family, which makes you contradict yourself already.

I didn't judge any of you at all- I said in my last reply to you that I don't know how do you behave already- about bolded part- I never implied that- read my post again. What I said meant that some of the members here itself responded aggressively when some of us non smokers posted ( if you go through the thread) which was not needed. - I was refering to that attitude and I thought I was clear enough. In RL too some smokers are well behaved , some are not. The same guy may act diffeently in different situations.


As for alchohal- I am not contradicting anything. Nocternal said nobody was bitching about it even though it hurts health as well- I merely pointed out that while smoking causes harm to others in proximity immediately- alchohal doesn't till the drinker starts acting up. I know at least two people who died of alchohalism in their early thirties.

I do not drink either. I drink cofee sometimes. I'm addicted to morning Tea that's 1 cup a day and I went an year even without that... ( I have smoked a couple of times when I was with my ex and had drinks too) I never tried anything else nor have any intention.
 

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As for alchohal- I am not contradicting anything. Nocternal said nobody was bitching about it even though it hurts health as well- I merely pointed out that while smoking causes harm to others in proximity immediately- alchohal doesn't till the drinker starts acting up. I know at least two people who died of alchohalism in their early thirties.
Stop contradicting yourself.

Smoking around people,will most likely just make them uncomfortable,children below the age of 7 are the ones in danger.
If someone smoke`s around you,you don`t get as much harm as you think,the smoke itself is not harmful,it is the nicotine inside the cigarette,and when you inhale,all of it goes into you,and only smoke leaves your mouth.
Drinking does kill more people,if you get drunk,there is a chance 1/10 that you will kill someone and yourself if you are travelling by car.
If you smoke,and smoke like 3 packs a day,you will die in your fifties,without having caused death to anyone else.
 

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Never tried it and don`t intend to its like

its like an ice cream when u taste it at the top u need it till the bottom

(P.S i had better examples thought i would not share U_U)

I would not recommend making such threads u may unknowingly promote smoking..
Since u say it just takes a few days of after smoking for 40 years that`s your opinion
 

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I didn't judge any of you at all- I said in my last reply to you that I don't know how do you behave already- about bolded part- I never implied that- read my post again. What I said meant that some of the members here itself responded aggressively when some of us non smokers posted ( if you go through the thread) which was not needed. - I was refering to that attitude and I thought I was clear enough. In RL too some smokers are well behaved , some are not. The same guy may act diffeently in different situations.


As for alchohal- I am not contradicting anything. Nocternal said nobody was bitching about it even though it hurts health as well- I merely pointed out that while smoking causes harm to others in proximity immediately- alchohal doesn't till the drinker starts acting up. I know at least two people who died of alchohalism in their early thirties.

I do not drink either. I drink cofee sometimes. I'm addicted to morning Tea that's 1 cup a day and I went an year even without that... ( I have smoked a couple of times when I was with my ex and had drinks too) I never tried anything else nor have any intention.

Okay, I have misread what you meant, I'm sorry.
About the alcohol (though this is offtopic); you might not harm people physically in a direct way, but the chances of harming people psychologically are far worse than what any cigarette can do imo. Even when you haven't had many drinks, you still become a different (the real person you are imo) person.
 
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EXactly where I contradicted myself? Can you kindly inform us all what does that smoke leaving the mouth contain?

I don't know why but I expected you to be better informed than this post. :|

I don`t need wiki to tell me what I know from personal experience.
 

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Don't smoke, but I really don't care that others do. My only request to not smoke in restaurants (as in fast food) or in grocery stores since children are rather frequent. I also have a personal rule of no smoking in my house or in my car. Aside from that, I don't care. If you light up at a park, I'll simply walk away so smoking isn't in my face - simple as that. If I'm in a bar, well, it's to be expected and I'd be an idiot for complaining.

Like I said, I have no problems with anyone smoking as long as its an area where I could move away from it (can't really do that in places like theaters, restaurants, etc). Hell, I'd even courage the return of "non-smoke" and "smoking" sections in sit-in restaurants.

On a fun note: One of my friends actually went out of his way to walk up to a stranger at a park and proceeded to complain about him smoking. When the guy asked me who my friend was, I responded, "a complete idiot" and walked away.
 

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You actually thought we don`t know Smoking is dangerous?
Of course it is,if you smoke for 40 years,you may have 4-5 years removed from your life.
I am ready for those consequences.
no i was hoping u knew it was dangerous, the only reason i posted those chemicals is because somebody asked to name a few chemicals in cigarettes ^^ sorry for the misunderstanding
 

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If you want to enjoy active life and athletic DON'T SMOKE I tried at the age of 13 then I have problem doing things I love ... basketball and martial arts so I stop and realize it feels great to be smoke free.
 

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If you want to enjoy active life and athletic DON'T SMOKE I tried at the age of 13 then I have problem doing things I love ... basketball and martial arts so I stop and realize it feels great to be smoke free.
Well good thing I don`t attend neither of those.
Well not anymore.
 
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