His feats speaks for itself. Feats >>> words. You can have the best reactions in the world, but if your body is not fast enough they are worth nothing. Manga itself explained that back in partI.
It says by activating the body great chakra is brought forth and brought into one arm. By moving long distances, this turns into a high-speed stab of destructive power.
I think this pretty much hints chidori enhances speed, The only question if it's only the arm that gets enhanced.
His feats speaks for itself. Feats >>> words. You can have the best reactions in the world, but if your body is not fast enough they are worth nothing. Manga itself explained that back in partI.
His feats are basic. I have yet to see a truly praise worthy speed feat from SM Naruto. Dodging the 3rds attack isn't even praise worthy imo. Random dodai fodder has comparable feats. Like I said his sensing is his greatest attribute in SM not his speed.
His feats are basic. I have yet to see a truly praise worthy speed feat from SM Naruto. Dodging the 3rds attack isn't even praise worthy imo. Random dodai fodder has comparable feats. Like I said his sensing is his greatest attribute in SM not his speed.
Dodai is just skilled shinobi with fast handseals. And yeah, SM sensing is one of two things that allowed Naruto to dodge 3rd charge, but like I said, fast reactions by itself are worth nothing. Your body still has to be fast enough to allow you to dodge your opponent, the difference in speed between you two cant be too big. Its the same with Sharingan and its precognition.
His feats are basic. I have yet to see a truly praise worthy speed feat from SM Naruto. Dodging the 3rds attack isn't even praise worthy imo. Random dodai fodder has comparable feats. Like I said his sensing is his greatest attribute in SM not his speed.
You've got to be trolling Dante. No one who's seen SM Naruto during the Pain invasion can honestly say that he doesn't have "a praiseworthy feat" unless they don't want to find one.
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Pain was visible at the distance he was from Tsunade. SM Naruto was barely visible at his distance meaning he was much further away. Pain used chakra rockets to turn him into a human missile which clearly is above speed that ninjas normally accomplish. SM Naruto intercepts him before he can kill Tsunade. Naruto took him out with a ransengan, which means he made a clone, formed it, then dashed toward Pain in that period of time. Meaning SM Naruto has insane speed. Only haters trying to pull excuses out of their backside will deny this.
3rd raikage is incredibly fast, manga fact. The fact that Dodai managed to pull off a jutsu is a feat to him. It doesn't make Raikage not fast since the manga clearly portrays him as very fast.
His feats speaks for itself. Feats >>> words. You can have the best reactions in the world, but if your body is not fast enough they are worth nothing. Manga itself explained that back in partI.
No, its not like Chodiri enhances speed, you just have to be fast to use this technique properly.
Well I disagree since it was talking about body activation which sounds sickeningly similar to lightning armor and Sage Mode. Doesn't really matter to me though. Overall, I just want the correct view.
His feats are basic. I have yet to see a truly praise worthy speed feat from SM Naruto. Dodging the 3rds attack isn't even praise worthy imo. Random dodai fodder has comparable feats. Like I said his sensing is his greatest attribute in SM not his speed.
I have to disagree because of the speed feats (movement speed and reaction speed) the 3rd Raikage showed us when he fought KM Naruto. At that point of time in the manga KM Naruto was the fastest character in the manga, yet he couldn't blitz the 3rd Raikage. Not only did Kishi tell us the 3rd raikage was fast through Naruto, but Naruto needed to be at point blank range to hit him with the FRS.
SM Naruto wouldn't have been able to dodge the 3rd Raikage's attack if he wasn't fast himself.
Kishi told us Dodai is fast through Naruto. Naruto committed on his speed here -
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PS: Don't forget Naruto waited until the very last possible moment to evade the attack. That gave Naruto less time to evade.
Well I disagree since it was talking about body activation which sounds sickeningly similar to lightning armor and Sage Mode. Doesn't really matter to me though. Overall, I just want the correct view.
Dodai is just skilled shinobi with fast handseals. And yeah, SM sensing is one of two things that allowed Naruto to dodge 3rd charge, but like I said, fast reactions by itself are worth nothing. Your body still has to be fast enough to allow you to dodge your opponent, the difference in speed between you two cant be too big. Its the same with Sharingan and its precognition.
I agree with Sm sensing being similar to sharigan pre cog however I would say it's false to say you have to close in speed to dodge your opponent. Aside from the Lee vs Sasuke, When Sasuke achieved 3 tomoe against Naruto in their fight at Vote, he gained the upper hand immediately.
You've got to be trolling Dante. No one who's seen SM Naruto during the Pain invasion can honestly say that he doesn't have "a praiseworthy feat" unless they don't want to find one.
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Pain was visible at the distance he was from Tsunade. SM Naruto was barely visible at his distance meaning he was much further away. Pain used chakra rockets to turn him into a human missile which clearly is above speed that ninjas normally accomplish. SM Naruto intercepts him before he can kill Tsunade. Naruto took him out with a ransengan, which means he made a clone, formed it, then dashed toward Pain in that period of time. Meaning SM Naruto has insane speed. Only haters trying to pull excuses out of their backside will deny this.
3rd raikage is incredibly fast, manga fact. The fact that Dodai managed to pull off a jutsu is a feat to him. It doesn't make Raikage not fast since the manga clearly portrays him as very fast.
Well I disagree since it was talking about body activation which sounds sickeningly similar to lightning armor and Sage Mode. Doesn't really matter to me though. Overall, I just want the correct view.
Lol like I said superior sensing comes a long way. Naruto sensed he was going to blitz 3 panels before he actually did it. Tsunades speech, and Peins dialogue all came before that attack. Can you deny the explanation mark that went off before Naruto attack? Obvious he sensed she was going to be in trouble and did what any ninja can do.
I agree with Sm sensing being similar to sharigan pre cog however I would say it's false to say you have to close in speed to dodge your opponent. Aside from the Lee vs Sasuke, When Sasuke achieved 3 tomoe against Naruto in their fight at Vote, he gained the upper hand immediately.
You are understaminating Sasukes speed at that time. At the Chuunin exams he was already as fast as Lee without gates, who was able to fool Gaaras automatic defence. At Vote he was even faster.
I agree with Sm sensing being similar to sharigan pre cog however I would say it's false to say you have to close in speed to dodge your opponent. Aside from the Lee vs Sasuke, When Sasuke achieved 3 tomoe against Naruto in their fight at Vote, he gained the upper hand immediately.
Lol like I said superior sensing comes a long way. Naruto sensed he was going to blitz 3 panels before he actually did it. Tsunades speech, and Peins dialogue all came before that attack. Can you deny the explanation mark that went off before Naruto attack? Obvious he sensed she was going to be in trouble and did what any ninja can do.
3rd Raikage is very fast and Naruto waited until the very last possible moment to evade the attack. That gave Naruto less time to evade. Naruto needed to be fast because if he wasn't he wouldn't have evaded the attack.
Yes, Naruto could sense back then, but his sensing ability wasn't at that level yet. He only could sense the chakra of person example: he knew Kakashi chakra was gone. He couldn't sense chakra being molded for an attack or action. Example: in the below scene Naruto didn't know Deva pain was molding his chakra to attack him
SM Naruto is fast but his speed is not top tier considering Madara blitzed him and that Madara's speed pales in comparison to the very top tier characters in terms of speed.
I agree with Sm sensing being similar to sharigan pre cog however I would say it's false to say you have to close in speed to dodge your opponent. Aside from the Lee vs Sasuke, When Sasuke achieved 3 tomoe against Naruto in their fight at Vote, he gained the upper hand immediately.
Lol like I said superior sensing comes a long way. Naruto sensed he was going to blitz 3 panels before he actually did it. Tsunades speech, and Peins dialogue all came before that attack. Can you deny the explanation mark that went off before Naruto attack? Obvious he sensed she was going to be in trouble and did what any ninja can do.
Please elaborate how sensing enables one to see easily 10 seconds into the future when there couldn't possibly be any power flowing through Asura Path that far into the beginning. This is speculation far more far-fetched than what makes us believe that he blitzed him. "What any ninja can do." Do you even hear yourself? You're saying, that SM Naruto, who's enhanced significantly more than 10X his base abilities, is only average in speed and that any ninja can intercept a human missile with pure foot speed? Are you actually suggesting that base Naruto's slugish?!!! Because if you are, I've got news for you. You're dead wrong. Base Naruto alone has demonstrated speed feats similar to high-tiers.
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Also, he made a ransengan, so whatever time he had to prepare obviously was spent on making a clone and ransengan.
Another thing, he was much further away than Asura Path, so even if he did foresee it, he's still have to be faster lol. There's no version of this that isn't an awesome speed feat for SM Naruto.
SM Naruto is fast but his speed is not top tier considering Madara blitzed him and that Madara's speed pales in comparison to the very top tier characters in terms of speed.
wel consider this, naruto was standing still and wasn't really ready to be attack. even still he had enough sense to block himself with his arms, even if he still got knocked down. you forget that this was a version of madara that had been revived to full power, that had also already been brought back past his prime in the first place. literally no one else has done that to sage mode naruto. go ahead i'll wait for you to find another.
you're an idiot. Notice that the konoha anbu member couldnt even get to tsunade to protect her before naruto killed asura path. He was right there. Right next her. He couldnt even take 2 steps before naruto speed bltized. ALso Naruto himself, who has encountered A's speed, stated that all Raikage are fast and Raikage was fast enough to dodge 2 rasenshurikens. He was also fast enough to knock out several shinobis before they could react. Sage Mode naruto dodging him is both a sensor feat and a speed feat
What does the anbu member's lack of motion have to do with naruto's speed? You still don't prove when naruto left so you can't say how fast he is. You idiots keep trying me but this isn't debatable, you will never know when he left so I can't say he left before asura and you can't prove otherwise.
As for the raikage being fast, he was countered by dodai, when he had the element of surprise, clearly he isn't that fast.
What does the anbu member's lack of motion have to do with naruto's speed? You still don't prove when naruto left so you can't say how fast he is. You idiots keep trying me but this isn't debatable, you will never know when he left so I can't say he left before asura and you can't prove otherwise.
As for the raikage being fast, he was countered by dodai, when he had the element of surprise, clearly he isn't that fast.
Please elaborate how sensing enables one to see easily 10 seconds into the future when there couldn't possibly be any power flowing through Asura Path that far into the beginning. This is speculation far more far-fetched than what makes us believe that he blitzed him. "What any ninja can do." Do you even hear yourself? You're saying, that SM Naruto, who's enhanced significantly more than 10X his base abilities, is only average in speed and that any ninja can intercept a human missile with pure foot speed? Are you actually suggesting that base Naruto's slugish?!!! Because if you are, I've got news for you. You're dead wrong. Base Naruto alone has demonstrated speed feats similar to high-tiers.
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Also, he made a ransengan, so whatever time he had to prepare obviously was spent on making a clone and ransengan.
Another thing, he was much further away than Asura Path, so even if he did foresee it, he's still have to be faster lol. There's no version of this that isn't an awesome speed feat for SM Naruto.
You know what's pathetic? Denying obvious logic just to make a character that you don't like look bad and pull countless excuses out of nowhere. That'd be you.
Naruto came from Kakashi's direction. He couldn't have been any closer than Kakashi was, so yeah, it's impressive. Same logic can be used against all the top tiers.
I'm done with you. The only argument you have is flimsy and filled with selective reading.
What does the anbu member's lack of motion have to do with naruto's speed? You still don't prove when naruto left so you can't say how fast he is. You idiots keep trying me but this isn't debatable, you will never know when he left so I can't say he left before asura and you can't prove otherwise.
As for the raikage being fast, he was countered by dodai, when he had the element of surprise, clearly he isn't that fast.
3rd Raikage is a incredibly fast ninja. KM Naruto, fastest person in the manga at that time, couldn't blitz the 3rd Raikage and Naruto needed to be at point blank range to hit him with the FRS.
Kishi told us Dodai is fast through Naruto. Naruto committed on his speed here -
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Different characters are fast in different areas and ways.
You know what's pathetic? Denying obvious logic just to make a character that you don't like look bad and pull countless excuses out of nowhere. That'd be you.
Naruto came from Kakashi's direction. He couldn't have been any closer than Kakashi was, so yeah, it's impressive. Same logic can be used against all the top tiers.
I'm done with you. The only argument you have is flimsy and filled with selective reading.
3rd Raikage is a incredibly fast ninja. KM Naruto, fastest person in the manga at that time, couldn't blitz the 3rd Raikage and Naruto needed to be at point blank range to hit him with the FRS.
Kishi told us Dodai is fast through Naruto. Naruto committed on his speed here -
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Different characters are fast in different areas and ways.
SO hes a sensor, that doesn't make him physically fast.
feats to suggest KCM naruto couldn't blitz him? did he try?
if the third was even kinda fast, he would have capatilized on the element of surprise he had. Dodai was surprised and still managed to wrap naruto in rubber before the third got there from only a few feet away.
You don't know where he came from, he could have just jumped off the bridge and you'd have no way to prove it
SO hes a sensor, that doesn't make him physically fast.
feats to suggest KCM naruto couldn't blitz him? did he try?
if the third was even kinda fast, he would have capatilized on the element of surprise he had. Dodai was surprised and still managed to wrap naruto in rubber before the third got there from only a few feet away.
Ok, I said I was done, but this is too good of an opportunity. Take a look.
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If he came from Kakasih's direction, then it was a single motion. If he came from the bridge, he'd have to make 2 fast motions in rapid succession. Plus, he's clearly moving towards the bridge as you can see from the direction that the water's going.
