SM naruto "Speed Feats"

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You haven't proven the 3rd was moving at his full speed at that time. The manga proved during Naruto encounter with the 4th Raikage that just because a character is using speed doesn't mean they are using their full speed. Naruto and the 4th Rakage used several different levels of speed during their encounter.

Going back and looking at that scene with Dodai, Naruto and 3rd Raikage it's easy to conclude the 3rd was not moving at full speed because he was in midair. No character (except character who can fly) can move at their full speed while jump or moving through the air since there is nothing to keep their momentum going.

Dodai was impressive with his handseal and jutsu speed. Different characters are fast in different areas.

what you have isn't proof, its speculation. Considering you were the one who suggest that the raikage wasn't moving at full speed the burden of proof lies with you to prove it.
 

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Well, he still has some impressive reaction feats in sm tho....
 

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If naruto feat was all time Kishi would have had him stand still and wait for the 3rd raikage to attack him not charge at him.

it is no different than this sasuke feat

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you don't see us sasuke fans using it as a speed feat, only a reaction feat. Then again thats because sasuke has speed feats that stand on their own
 

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it is no different than this sasuke feat

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you don't see us sasuke fans using it as a speed feat, only a reaction feat. Then again thats because sasuke has speed feats that stand on their own

Actually, it was both. If Sasuke wasnt fast enough he would be owned like in partI by Lee.
 

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what you have isn't proof, its speculation. Considering you were the one who suggest that the raikage wasn't moving at full speed the burden of proof lies with you to prove it.

1st you still haven't proven he was or anything you said about Naruto's speed. I do have proof because he is in midair. Once your body leaves the ground and you are in midair you have nothing to keep your momentum going, unless you can fly. On the ground a person can use their legs to push off the ground to keep their momentum.
 

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it is no different than this sasuke feat

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you don't see us sasuke fans using it as a speed feat, only a reaction feat. Then again thats because sasuke has speed feats that stand on their own


That was with chidori, which may enhance speed considering it's labeled as a "fast" technique and has the tunnel vision effect. Also, this feat is nowhere near SM Naruto's.

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Sasuke merely evaded A's elbow while letting his chidori continue its course. SM Naruto waited until the spear was virtually on top of him, twisted his body out of the way before the spear could impale him, then stuck with speed the 3rd raikage couldn't react to and forced the 3rd raikage's attack(not Naruto's) to hit himself. Naruto's feat is much more complex and thus, better than Sasuke's.
 

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so what i'm getting from the OP is, because kishi didn't show exactly when naruto left the toads to attack, then it's not impressive. thats dumb by the way, as he then later in another post(i think it was him anyways) post a pic of sasuke attacking a ninja with CM. in this pic it is never shown when he leaves. the point is that in a manga things are shown in different panels, so drawing every single action is impossible so you have to go on distance. we now how sage mode sensing works. the person is able to is able to feel the moves before they happen basically or should i say before they get to where they are going. naruto wouldn't be able to know pain was going to attack until after he started moving. naruto at the time was very far from tsunade. in that pic you see the size of the toads, who rival the size of bijuu, in this pic they don't look as big. at the very top of these toads we see a tiny figure, this is naruto. that means he not only had to cover a much further distance than pain who was only a few yard from tsunade, but he also had to make a rasengan and attack him before he reached tsunade. So you are telling me that that is not a speed feat? sometimes i don't think you people use your brains.

now on to the third raikage. in the scan that you shown they were in mid air. there is really no need for me to argue any further than that. we already know that version 1 of the lightning armor gives you incredible speed, which is what he was using. the fact that dodai was able to react is testament to him, and the fact that they were in mid air. that was a horrible scan for you to use. try again to discount things we know to be true.
 

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That was with chidori, which may enhance speed considering it's labeled as a "fast" technique and has the tunnel vision effect.
Chidori does not enhance your speed.
 
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you're an idiot. Notice that the konoha anbu member couldnt even get to tsunade to protect her before naruto killed asura path. He was right there. Right next her. He couldnt even take 2 steps before naruto speed bltized. ALso Naruto himself, who has encountered A's speed, stated that all Raikage are fast and Raikage was fast enough to dodge 2 rasenshurikens. He was also fast enough to knock out several shinobis before they could react. Sage Mode naruto dodging him is both a sensor feat and a speed feat
 
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Then why's it labeled a "fast technique" Why isn't ransengan since they're both related to hitting the enemy with chakra on your hand.

chidori recquires one to be fast because it needs a huge amount of momentum to be built up in order to perform the jab motion. Thats why Kakashi trained Sasuke in speed. It was because Chidori needed that speed to be used in order to be effective. Of course chidori can be used without the running start but usually when this happens, the jab is not effective or misses. Take Kakashi trying to rakiri deva path for example. Take naruto being able to react to Sasuke's chidori and simply swat it away when it was about to damage his heart. It was because sasuke was standing and had not built up a huge amount speed like he usually does for chidori. Kakashi also didnt build up any speed when trying to hit deva path with it.
 

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Then why's it labeled a "fast technique" Why isn't ransengan since they're both related to hitting the enemy with chakra on your hand.

This technique has no range aside from the users arm, so if you want to hit somebody with it you has to be relatively fast. Its the same with Rasengan. Sasuke and Naruto were clashing with those techniques on more than one occasion, did you see any difference in speed? Chidori is not the same as As Raiton armor, it does not improve users speed at all. Sasuke dodging A was effect of his speed and Sharingan precognition, nothing more.
 

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SM Naruto isn't even fast. He just has better reaction/reflex.
 
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This technique has no range aside from the users arm, so if you want to hit somebody with it you has to be relatively fast. Its the same with Rasengan. Sasuke and Naruto were clashing with those techniques on more than one occasion, did you see any difference in speed. Chidori is not the same as As Raiton armor, it does not improve users speed at all. Sasuke dodging A was effect of his speed and Sharingan precognition, nothing more.

i tried to explain it as best a spossible to him. It was right before this post. You gave a good explanation too. I would rep you but I cant rep anyone for some reason. Guess its cause im new
 

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That statement was already debunked.

I have yet to see Naruto praised for his speed. Anyone with notable speed is praised for it at some point.
Yet SM Naruto isn't at all.
 

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chidori recquires one to be fast because it needs a huge amount of momentum to be built up in order to perform the jab motion. Thats why Kakashi trained Sasuke in speed. It was because Chidori needed that speed to be used in order to be effective. Of course chidori can be used without the running start but usually when this happens, the jab is not effective or misses. Take Kakashi trying to rakiri deva path for example. Take naruto being able to react to Sasuke's chidori and simply swat it away when it was about to damage his heart. It was because sasuke was standing and had not built up a huge amount speed like he usually does for chidori. Kakashi also didnt build up any speed when trying to hit deva path with it.





It says by activating the body great chakra is brought forth and brought into one arm. By moving long distances, this turns into a high-speed stab of destructive power.


I think this pretty much hints chidori enhances speed, The only question if it's only the arm that gets enhanced.
 

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I have yet to see Naruto praised for his speed. Anyone with notable speed is praised for it at some point.
Yet SM Naruto isn't at all.


Funny considering he is in both the manga and by people on the base. It's only you guys that say otherwise.
 
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