SM Naruto (Pein Arc)

[Natsu Shazneel]

One rasen-shuriken GG

 

[GokuEn]

Umm, SM Naruto Mid-High Diff, there is no way Itachi can win

 

[SeveN797]

One rasen-shuriken GG

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[The Demon Hawk]

Kishi is kishi and this is his cartoon with a m.c named naruto.So give itachi whatever u like and he still looses.

That's a different story. The point is Itachi > SM Naruto. Victory is not determined by that. Otherwise, Naruto would've lost to Pain as well because Pain >>> SM Naruto. But yet, Naruto won. Kurama will save him.

 

[Natsu Shazneel]

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Filler alert!

 

[SeveN797]

Filler alert!

v2 susanoo > frs u mad

 

[Natsu Shazneel]

v2 susanoo > frs u mad

How will he deal with four rasen-shurikens at the same time?

 

[SeveN797]

How will he deal with four rasen-shurikens at the same time?

Yata tanks all of them

 

[SatanicGod]

H ewould of stomped naruto but,he wasn't beating kabuto without izanami.

The white rage along with his other justu shut down the sharingn completely.

Only izanami and izanami alone was getting them out of that battle.


It was a cheesy plot device.

Actually he would win without Izanami, throughout the fight he is telling Sasuke to hold back alot, thus showing that Itachi was in fact holding back in the battle, adding into the fact that Edo's weren't brought back at their full power, except for Madara

 

[SatanicGod]

How will he deal with four rasen-shurikens at the same time?

When did SM Naruto (Pein Arc) even perform 4 RS at the same time??

 

[The Demon Hawk]

How does avoiding eye contact negate him avoiding ama

If Naruto makes eye contact with Itachi, he will get Tsukuyomi'd. A regular Genjutsu will also be enough, but for absolute secure (since regular Genjutsu could be broken by Ma and Pa), quick and devastating results, Tsukuyomi is just the tool.

However, if Naruto doesn't make eye contact with Itachi, he will get Amaterasu'd. Amaterasu cannot be sensed by SM. SM senses and locates chakra. So SM won't be able to sense Amaterasu because chakra will be there whether Amaterasu is being launched or not. And it also won't be able to locate Amaterasu because chakra will not change position when Amaterasu is launched. Amaterasu can only be predicted. It can only be seen by blood in the eyes and avoided if you're fast enough (like Raikage did).

Nobody in this series avoiding it because of their eyes they did either because of sensory

Everybody saw Amaterasu using their eyes. Obito saw chakra build up in Sasuke's eyes to foresee Sasuke's usage of Amaterasu. Same with Kaguya. Raikage saw the bleeding in Sasuke's eyes to predict Amaterasu like a lot of others in the series.

No one is the series was shown to sense Amaterasu. Madara had Hashi's SM sensing, but even then he wasn't able to sense Sasuke's Amaterasu. Kabuto couldn't sense Amaterasu, that's why he was surprised when Itachi used it and suddenly stopped running.

or enhanced reflexes(Ay he did use his eyes but his lightning armor is why he was able to react his bodily functions were sped up).

Avoiding it requires immense speed and reflexes. That's a subsequent story. To avoid it, first you must know that Amaterasu is being launched. And Amaterasu's launch can't be sensed by SM.

Naruto in sm is a sensor who'll sense ama regardless of What he sees.

Any explanation as to HOW he will sense Amaterasu?

All don't get totsukad cause susanoo is draining and itachi has stamina problems.

He will have more than enough time to Totsuka them. Stamina is not an issue in a fight between Itachi and SM Naruto.

Yata is a shield that covers susanoo from one side shadow clones surround you.

Pain Arc Naruto can only create 2 shadow clones. If Naruto forms Rasenshuriken, then those clones will help Naruto in forming Rasenshuriken, so Naruto can't surround Itachi with clones. And if Naruto isn't creating Rasenshuriken, then those clones can't do anything worthwhile against Susanoo's defenses.

But it doesn't matter anyway because Susanoo can tank FRS regardless. Kirin >>> FRS. Susanoo could completely protect Itachi against something as powerful as Kirin. FRS pales in comparison to Kirin's power, so there is no way FRS is penetrating Susanoo's defenses.

If Danzos win jutsu almost split susanoos spine than a rasenshuriken is doing damage. If a senjutsy rasenshuriken lands than susanoo gets Pretty messed up.

Firstly, Danzo's wind was enhanced by Baku's suction powers for a more powerful effect.

Secondly, Danzo's wind attacked V3 Susanoo, not the complete armored V4 Susanoo.

Thirdly, Danzo was only able to pierce V3 Susanoo's defenses because he found the weak spot in Susanoo. His wind attack wouldn't have worked if he attacked any other place aside from the weak spot, even in V3 Susanoo. And in the armored version of Susanoo, that weak spot would be covered plus the entire defense would be strengthened.

Fourthly, Danzo's wind didn't split Susanoo's spine, it only ripped it open. And it didn't rip it open because of the concussion power of Danzo's wind attack. It only ripped it open because it applied pressure on that area to loosen Sasuke's control over Susanoo, which was already weakened so Danzo took advantage of that. And then Sasuke let go because he had difficulty in maintaining Susanoo. It was pretty obvious, because Susanoo didn't instantly break by Danzo's attack, it gradually opened, which is proof that Sasuke had it opened by the pressure of the attack, not the force of the attack. It also showed that Susanoo was opened due to weakening control and maintenance. If Sasuke had a more powerful control, Danzo would be out of luck.

To sum it up, Danzo's wind was suction enhanced for increased power. And even then, it only managed to rip open Sasuke's Susanoo because Sasuke's control was loosened. If Sasuke had powerful control, his attack wouldn't even work in V3 Susanoo's weak spot. Let alone V3 Susanoo. Let alone V4 armored Susanoo.

Now if Naruto does what he did to kurama with his rasenshurikens than you know that small susanoo is getting obliterated.

Can't really do that out of his body without his mommy's assistance. He can create maximum 4 shadow clones in SM. Two will be hiding and absorbing natural energy. Only two will be with Naruto.

Itachi is a threat to naruto because he isn't reliant on his dojutsut and uses it at the right moment.

Itachi is a big threat to Naruto because he has a counter to every power of Naruto, but Naruto doesn't have a counter to any of Itachi's power.

Itachi takes this high diff because naruto falls out of sm but if itachi is worn by then narutos reserves would really help.

Itachi takes this low to mid diff. Naruto's SM won't be even exhausted by then.

Since itachi would know sms weakness in no time he'd save his physically taxing dojutsu like ama and tsukyomi when naruto leaves sm. But Itachi would have to out last sm.

Itachi doesn't need to outlast SM. He can KILL Naruto in SM, literally kill him. There is no need to preserve any jutsu, especially not Tsukuyomi because if Tsukuyomi hits Naruto, Naruto dies, but if it doesn't, then Itachi doesn't lose anything.

And BTW, when Naruto leaves SM, Itachi won't need to use big jutsus like Amaterasu and Tsukuyomi on him. He can beat Naruto badly with just his taijutsu and regular 3T Sharingan.

Itachi and Kisame treated j man like a huge threat so sm naruto isn't getting mid diffed by itachi alone

That was just hype. Also, Kishi probably didn't think of Susanoo by then, that's why.

 

[The Demon Hawk]

One rasen-shuriken GG

Rasenshuriken is nothing. Kirin >>> Rasenshuriken. Susanoo protected Itachi completely against Kirin. Defending against Rasenshuriken is cake.

And on top of that, Itachi has Yata. Rasenshuriken already couldn't do anything, and now Yata comes in the scene. How unlucky for Naruto.

How will he deal with four rasen-shurikens at the same time?

Haha. SM Naruto Pain Arc can only create one Rasenshuriken at one time.

 

[Natsu Shazneel]

When did SM Naruto (Pein Arc) even perform 4 RS at the same time??

Oops sorry I got too excited.

 

[Berner]

v2 susanoo > frs u mad

keep proving him wrong and he will be


ot- itachi negs

 

[CrimsonReaper]

Itachi wins mid diff.

 

[Natsu Shazneel]

keep proving him wrong and he will be


ot- itachi negs

Stop telling him my secret!

 

[TimothyTheTomato]

If Naruto makes eye contact with Itachi, he will get Tsukuyomi'd. A regular Genjutsu will also be enough, but for absolute secure (since regular Genjutsu could be broken by Ma and Pa), quick and devastating results, Tsukuyomi is just the tool.

However, if Naruto doesn't make eye contact with Itachi, he will get Amaterasu'd. Amaterasu cannot be sensed by SM. SM senses and locates chakra. So SM won't be able to sense Amaterasu because chakra will be there whether Amaterasu is being launched or not. And it also won't be able to locate Amaterasu because chakra will not change position when Amaterasu is launched. Amaterasu can only be predicted. It can only be seen by blood in the eyes and avoided if you're fast enough (like Raikage did).



Everybody saw Amaterasu using their eyes. Obito saw chakra build up in Sasuke's eyes to foresee Sasuke's usage of Amaterasu. Same with Kaguya. Raikage saw the bleeding in Sasuke's eyes to predict Amaterasu like a lot of others in the series.

No one is the series was shown to sense Amaterasu. Madara had Hashi's SM sensing, but even then he wasn't able to sense Sasuke's Amaterasu. Kabuto couldn't sense Amaterasu, that's why he was surprised when Itachi used it and suddenly stopped running.



Avoiding it requires immense speed and reflexes. That's a subsequent story. To avoid it, first you must know that Amaterasu is being launched. And Amaterasu's launch can't be sensed by SM.



Any explanation as to HOW he will sense Amaterasu?



He will have more than enough time to Totsuka them. Stamina is not an issue in a fight between Itachi and SM Naruto.



Pain Arc Naruto can only create 2 shadow clones. If Naruto forms Rasenshuriken, then those clones will help Naruto in forming Rasenshuriken, so Naruto can't surround Itachi with clones. And if Naruto isn't creating Rasenshuriken, then those clones can't do anything worthwhile against Susanoo's defenses.

But it doesn't matter anyway because Susanoo can tank FRS regardless. Kirin >>> FRS. Susanoo could completely protect Itachi against something as powerful as Kirin. FRS pales in comparison to Kirin's power, so there is no way FRS is penetrating Susanoo's defenses.



Firstly, Danzo's wind was enhanced by Baku's suction powers for a more powerful effect.

Secondly, Danzo's wind attacked V3 Susanoo, not the complete armored V4 Susanoo.

Thirdly, Danzo was only able to pierce V3 Susanoo's defenses because he found the weak spot in Susanoo. His wind attack wouldn't have worked if he attacked any other place aside from the weak spot, even in V3 Susanoo. And in the armored version of Susanoo, that weak spot would be covered plus the entire defense would be strengthened.

Fourthly, Danzo's wind didn't split Susanoo's spine, it only ripped it open. And it didn't rip it open because of the concussion power of Danzo's wind attack. It only ripped it open because it applied pressure on that area to loosen Sasuke's control over Susanoo, which was already weakened so Danzo took advantage of that. And then Sasuke let go because he had difficulty in maintaining Susanoo. It was pretty obvious, because Susanoo didn't instantly break by Danzo's attack, it gradually opened, which is proof that Sasuke had it opened by the pressure of the attack, not the force of the attack. It also showed that Susanoo was opened due to weakening control and maintenance. If Sasuke had a more powerful control, Danzo would be out of luck.

To sum it up, Danzo's wind was suction enhanced for increased power. And even then, it only managed to rip open Sasuke's Susanoo because Sasuke's control was loosened. If Sasuke had powerful control, his attack wouldn't even work in V3 Susanoo's weak spot. Let alone V3 Susanoo. Let alone V4 armored Susanoo.



Can't really do that out of his body without his mommy's assistance. He can create maximum 4 shadow clones in SM. Two will be hiding and absorbing natural energy. Only two will be with Naruto.



Itachi is a big threat to Naruto because he has a counter to every power of Naruto, but Naruto doesn't have a counter to any of Itachi's power.



Itachi takes this low to mid diff. Naruto's SM won't be even exhausted by then.



Itachi doesn't need to outlast SM. He can KILL Naruto in SM, literally kill him. There is no need to preserve any jutsu, especially not Tsukuyomi because if Tsukuyomi hits Naruto, Naruto dies, but if it doesn't, then Itachi doesn't lose anything.

And BTW, when Naruto leaves SM, Itachi won't need to use big jutsus like Amaterasu and Tsukuyomi on him. He can beat Naruto badly with just his taijutsu and regular 3T Sharingan.



That was just hype. Also, Kishi probably didn't think of Susanoo by then, that's why.

Wtf
Obito sensed ama
Ama can be sensed cause chakra goes to the eye for it
Naruto senses it no refutation
Naruto don't need his mom to make big rasenshurikens or slam tailed beasts susanoo gets crushed you sayin susanoo was weaker cause of focus is fanfic
Kirin is a mountain buster
Regular chou odama rasengans are on that level
Sm chou rasengan shits on kirin as it hollows mountains
Obito saw or sensed the chakra build up
Naruto senses chakra how hard is that to understand
How does itachi survive an sm punch
Bruh this is high diff

 

[TimothyTheTomato]

v2 susanoo > frs u mad

Same susanoo got harmed by a regular fuuton jutsu
That filler feat is Like krillin hurting goku with a rock gtfoh

 

[Shruikan]

lel.Frog song aint working on the single genjutsu god in the series.Itachi takes this low diff

 

[shelke]

Without the knowledge of the Sage Frogs' summoning ritual, it's fictitious to assume that he can summon them. Possessing a contract with them is simply not enough.

Without those summons, all he has in his arsenal are two FRSs as ranged attacks. He cannot re-enter into his short-lived and hilariously limited SM without outside help. He did so with the help of large summons in Pain arc. Therefore, it's 5 minutes on the clock against an opponent whom he couldn't overpower in KCM with one of the fastest and quickest people in the manga (Bee).

In CQC, Itachi decimates him. Sharingan Genjutsu and a few close quarter hits does the trick. Or Itachi simply waltzes around and awaits his 5 minute sand-glass to let slip the final grain and then ... that's all she wrote. His defense in War Arc was so pitiful against a basic Katon attack, so, I cannot see him doing any better against more potent ones.

3 Tomoe Sharingan is all that is needed, given how sluggish FRS as a tech is. And that's the only thing he has in his arsenal that is even remotely usable in such battles.