SM Minato vs DSM Kabuto

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Give Minato Naruto's SM feats plus Jiraiya's and he still loses.
 

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This is 15m people Minato is approximately 1.7m. This distance only slightly less than 9 Minatos lying flat on the floor. It's not even this large of a distance, which Minato closed instantly by throwing one of his kunai.

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It's by no means impossible for Minato to use his speed to not give Kabuto the opportunity for white rage and sound genjutsu. A different outcome could be argued for a long distance, but Minato definitely wins at this distance.
 

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Ransengan to the wall will fix that. On top of that, he can have clones do it. Or he could simply body flicker away. Considering base Minato's speed is>>>base Kabuto's, SM Minato's speed>>>DSM Kabuto's speed

Ransengan isn't doing anything to someone who can control the whole field. Nor is trying to body flicker away, especially to someone who can see the whole battlefield.


This is 15m people Minato is approximately 1.7m. This distance only slightly less than 9 Minatos lying flat on the floor. It's not even this large of a distance, which Minato closed instantly by throwing one of his kunai.

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It's by no means impossible for Minato to use his speed to not give Kabuto the opportunity for white rage and sound genjutsu. A different outcome could be argued for a long distance, but Minato definitely wins at this distance.

What is Minato going to do even with distance advantage lol..

I am still waiting on how Minato wins this battle. He can't kill him.
 

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Rofl, You dont know how fast sound travels in NV.

If that would be the case no one ever would fear sound genjutsu lol. Even sasuke and itachi would outrun that in this case.

Man you're such bias.

Minato loses as sure as he got no arms U_U

Take away Genjutsu and he still loses. Rasengan and kunai affect him none since he can liquefy his insides. He still has uses Doro Domu to capture him and Muki Tensei to swallow the tags.

Lol, I can't believe how biased some people are. KCM Minato gets shat on let alone SM.
 

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Ma and pa use frog song which is better than tayuya's genjutsu. Minato then proceeds to walk up to kabuto and slap a few seals on him. With his chakra completely locked he can't heal and he's killed.

Frog genjutsu gg. Just the way kabuto fans like it
 

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Minato gets raped. He can't even kill Kabuto. Lmao.
 

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Ransengan isn't doing anything to someone who can control the whole field. Nor is trying to body flicker away, especially to someone who can see the whole battlefield.

Uh, inorganic reanimation was never said to strengthen objects, and ransengan can definitely blast through.

What is Minato going to do even with distance advantage lol..

I am still waiting on how Minato wins this battle. He can't kill him.


Hydrafication is not activated 24/7. The user has to activate it himself and has not been shown to simultaneously attack while liquified. The exception is Suigetsu is an exception because he uses the hydrafication to attack, but has not physically attacked while using it. Kabuto doesn't have Suigetsu's skill with it to do this either. Also, if caught of guard, attacks can connect to Kabuto's body.

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FTG users are experts at using FTG on people who think that have won and catch them off guard. Kabuto has an overconfident personality, so solid blows will connect.

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Minato's base ransengan destroys limbs. Kabuto's regen will have its work cut out for it. Kabuto has Karin's regen and oral rebirth, both of which require large amounts of chakra, so if Minato hurts him enough time, he will run out of chakra.

One touch is all Minato needs to transfer his chakra to Kabuto, which won't be lost because of oral rebirth. Then Minato can teleport to Kabuto any time he wants and can have Kabuto teleported to his kunais.


Minato definitely wins at this range. I might not be posting for the rest of the day.
 

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It's pretty ignorant of anyone who says Minato can't harm or kill Kabuto because of his hozuki liquidity abilities. Like someone said, its not 24/7 activated. He's not on suigestsu's level with it, he can get caught off guard and harmed, as Itachi has already shown.

Rasengan will hurt him, a kunai can kill him. Just depends on the circumstances.

Not saying Minato wins, but by some people's logic Kabuto is undefeatable unless you have lightning release.
 

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Frog song good game.
Ma and pa are already out, while kabuto has to give birth to kimmimaro, grow some bone,break of a piece of it, have kimmi reenter the womb, then give birth to tayuya.
Then and only then can the flute be played.
 

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Uh, inorganic reanimation was never said to strengthen objects, and ransengan can definitely blast through.

It does not need to be stated that it doesn't strengthen object, when it is already stated that it is augmented with Senjutsu.


Hydrafication is not activated 24/7. The user has to activate it himself and has not been shown to simultaneously attack while liquified.

So what if its not 24/7. He knows when to use it against the legendary Yellow Flash.

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The exception is Suigetsu is an exception because he uses the hydrafication to attack, but has not physically attacked while using it. Kabuto doesn't have Suigetsu's skill with it to do this either. Also, if caught of guard, attacks can connect to Kabuto's body.

So can Suigetsu who isn't aware thay he will be attacked. Either way Kabuto perceptual ability isn't going to have him not ready against the yellow flash.

FTG users are experts at using FTG on people who think that have won and catch them off guard. Kabuto has an overconfident personality, so solid blows will connect.

To bad he doesn't get caught off guard, that he cannot see.

Minato's base ransengan destroys limbs. Kabuto's regen will have its work cut out for it. Kabuto has Karin's regen and oral rebirth, both of which require large amounts of chakra, so if Minato hurts him enough time, he will run out of chakra.

In case you have forgotten what natural energy will do to you[ ].

If you didn't get what I was going with that scan, Kabuto can passively absorb it while moving, meaning he can constantly stay senjutsu. Kabuto will never tire as long as he balances it with his chakra.. Which he trained and mastered..

One touch is all Minato needs to transfer his chakra to Kabuto, which won't be lost because of oral rebirth. Then Minato can teleport to Kabuto any time he wants and can have Kabuto teleported to his kunais.

Since when? Now I may be ignorant in this case: Why didnt Minato tag Bee's tentacle, the one he split apart from Bee's body? Instead, tagged the spot that will retrieve back to Bee

Minato definitely wins at this range. I might not be posting for the rest of the day.

So range advantage is going to magically make him win by outlasting Kabuto...?

It's pretty ignorant of anyone who says Minato can't harm or kill Kabuto because of his hozuki liquidity abilities. Like someone said, its not 24/7 activated. He's not on suigestsu's level with it, he can get caught off guard and harmed, as Itachi has already shown.

Rasengan will hurt him, a kunai can kill him. Just depends on the circumstances.

Not saying Minato wins, but by some people's logic Kabuto is undefeatable unless you have lightning release.

Lightening Release is not beating Kabuto. Manga never stated that his body fluids are Water.



Frog song good game.
Ma and pa are already out, while kabuto has to give birth to kimmimaro, grow some bone,break of a piece of it, have kimmi reenter the womb, then give birth to tayuya.
Then and only then can the flute be played.

I like how you are trying to go by list of the process of setting up his Genjutsu, like its slow. When in fact that whole process is still faster then Frog Song lol.

P.S. the Sound 5 chars don't leave/reenter. They swap places via Face Change
 

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EjBlack;14540018Lightening Release is not beating Kabuto. Manga never stated that his body fluids are Water. [/QUOTE said:
Since its suigestsu's dna, I'm going to assumes its water. Even if it's not water, it's still liquid. Doesn't mist liquid conduct electricity because the electrons can move around freely?
 

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Since its suigestsu's dna, I'm going to assumes its water. Even if it's not water, it's still liquid. Doesn't mist liquid conduct electricity because the electrons can move around freely?

He doesn't have Suigetsu DNA. I usually quote my old post:

My previous mention something about "fluids" and I was talking about "Suika no Jutsu". DO NOT CALL Kabuto's fluids "Suika no Jutsu". Lets read the context again [ ]. Kabuto said its ability to transform the body "INTO A LIQUID FORM". It was never stated what liquid form Kabuto uses. To understand the context as a whole, read what Kabuto said right after. "I use MY BODY FLUID <--- To perform it". Which means its something else. For all we known this liquid is unconductible, since not every liquid is conductible. For all we know the fluids can handle Amatersu heat. The next panel says, Kabuto researched and ALTERNATE his own version. Now to conclude this part is distinguishing "WATER" to Kabuto's "FLUIDS" the last context of Kabuto's source. "Dont you know him, too? it's Sugetsu. He (Sugetsu)<----- can transform into water...." That said, Kabuto's Fuilds can work better then the houzuki clan, even countering it's weak points.

First there is a reason why Kabuto mention doing research and alternation from the liquid/hydrification. Kabuto knew the pros and the cons with Suika no Jutsu. This is why he had alternate it. The manga never said what kind of liquid form Kabuto uses (Although by the looks of it, it is very thick and also produces his fluid while keeping its skin state[ ], basically abnormal) , BUT by context he had to alter the jutsu to FIX the CONS. Well? What are the Cons for Suika No Jutsu? Lightening Release, and always needing water to drank, to keep themselves hydrated. These weaknesses do not apply to Kabuto at all. If you were to look at the scan where Kabuto was explaining his body shed version we know that the context also applied that the alternation is much better then the snake skin shed. That means that anything that snake skin shed, either can do the same or much better then normal shedding. An example would be Manda tanking Katon+Oil by simply shedding his skin to counter the effects. [ ]. Kabuto simply made sure to have this Liquid he altered to counter electricity and also enabling him to face off heating capacity.

And again no not every liquid is conductible. Example, Oil. And we know 2nd Mizukage is mostly made up with.
 

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DSM. Kabuto cant lose this. Itachi and Sasuke couldn't even move fighting Kabuto. Most if not all kabuto's jutsu immobilizes or messes with the scenes. Kabuto is tricky and i don't think minato could beat him.
 

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DSM. Kabuto cant lose this. Itachi and Sasuke couldn't even move fighting Kabuto. Most if not all kabuto's jutsu immobilizes or messes with the scenes. Kabuto is tricky and i don't think minato could beat him.

His genjutsu won't affect Minatos sage sensing though. And FTG doesn't require hand signs, Minato can constantly evade until the genjutsu wears off
 

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Huh?



Yes we can. Unless you want to ignore Kabuto's words. Common sense will tell that alternating something that has the same weakness, isn't smart or correct way to conclude.
Would white rage affect Minatos sensory abilities?
 
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