SM Minato vs DSM Kabuto

[Bronze]

It has nothing to with what he said and Itachi can't use sensor abilitis as conformed by Itachi himself.

I don't understand whether ur doing this on purpose or u really don't understand what he was saying,even I can understad it without any difficulty and Iam pretty sure ur atleast better than me when it comes to English so it shouldn't be that hard for u either.

When Itachi saved Sasuke from Kabuto,Kabuto qustioned Itachi if he(Itachi) could sense him(Kabuto) means that in a way Kabuto admitted that it is possible to use sensor abilities even when ur under the effect of white range.

Kabuto thought that Itachi has sensor abilities and that's why Itachi managed to follow Kabuto's movements but Itachi actually saw through Kabuto's plan and saved Sasuke which was clearly explained by Itachi after Kabuto's qustion.

It has nothing to do with reading English, unless if you cant read and understand the context. Itachi saw Kabuto:

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And he made it clear that he knows what its on Kabuto's mind, hence why Kabuto praised his mind reading abilities:

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The only reason Itachi showed resistance, was because he was Edo Tensie showing no signs of bones, he saw Kabuto and knows what on his mind. Sasuke a living being could not match it, and Minato being in this scenario as living being will make him end up just like that.

 

[Avinash012]

It has nothing to do with reading English, unless if you cant read and understand the context. Itachi saw Kabuto:

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And he made it clear that he knows what its on Kabuto's mind, hence why Kabuto praised his mind reading abilities:

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The only reason Itachi showed resistance, was because he was Edo Tensie showing no signs of bones, he saw Kabuto and knows what on his mind. Sasuke a living being could not match it, and Minato being in this scenario as living being will make him end up just like that.

I can't belive ur still doint this.

Bro,let me tell u this again it has nothing to do with what Itachi did there or what Minato can do there here the point whether sensors can sense Kabuto while they are under the effect of WR or not and the answer is Yes which was proved by Kabuto's statement/qustion to Itachi Uchiha.Kabuto thought that Itachi sensed him means that it is possible to sense him even in that condition it sensing is not possible Kabuto wouldn't have said that.If u still don't get it then leave it.

 

[Bronze]

I can't belive ur still doint this.

Bro,let me tell u this again it has nothing to do with what Itachi did there or what Minato can do there here the point whether sensors can sense Kabuto while they are under the effect of WR or not and the answer is Yes which was proved by Kabuto's statement/qustion to Itachi Uchiha.Kabuto thought that Itachi sensed him means that it is possible to sense him even in that condition it sensing is not possible Kabuto wouldn't have said that.If u still don't get it then leave it.

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Kabuto's statement is invalid, because he ''thought''. The word ''thought'' is not a fact. Its ''imagination'' or ''idea'', so its moot point, especially when Kabuto later praises Itachi's abilities mind reading abilities as it becomes contradiction to his ''thought'' for thinking Itachi is sensor. And you're doing good job in ignoring the 1st scan of Itachi seeing Kabuto.

 

[Gold Lightning]

His aim was to take down the entire platoon, and it's an IC battle, meaning he'll deploy certain tactics in certain scenarios. Minato's special attack probably only works against immobilized opponents, bearing in mind that he only decided to take it out when Juubito couldn't move and he hasn't used it against any of his other opponents. Minato himself says that his special attack will only be effective against Juubito while he's in his immobilized state [

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]. Minato has no problem spreading kunai with one hand.

How's he even going to muster enough chakra to use FTG while he's in a really painful state? It's this pain that causes paralysis and pain has to be inflicted at extreme levels to cause paralysis. Furthermore, while you're paralyzed you can't activate jutsu, evidenced by Sasuke not using Susanoo to defend against Madara's attack [

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You act like Minato has been in many fights, anyway Minato mentions the jutsu again here:

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Yet Obito isn't immobilized here so that point is invalid.

Every battle we've ever seen Minato in, there are at least some kunai spread around the battlefield or in different locations. If there aren't then Minato will spread them himself. No questions about it.

Yet Itachi used Susanoo to protect Sasuke while under the effects of white rage.

 

[Avinash012]

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Kabuto's statement is invalid, because he ''thought''. The word ''thought'' is not a fact. Its ''imagination'' or ''idea'', so its moot point, especially when Kabuto later praises Itachi's abilities mind reading abilities as it becomes contradiction to his ''thought'' for thinking Itachi is sensor. And you're doing good job in ignoring the 1st scan of Itachi seeing Kabuto.

Whether Kabuto was right about Itachi or not it irrelavent here: Kabuto thought that Itachi sensed him which means that Kabuto know that it is possible for sensors to sense him that is what Iam saying.He thought that because it is possible otherwise he would have said something like oh how could u track me? insted of qustioning him if he has sensor abilities or not.

 

[Touken]

You act like Minato has been in many fights, anyway Minato mentions the jutsu again here:

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Yet Obito isn't immobilized here so that point is invalid.

Every battle we've ever seen Minato in, there are at least some kunai spread around the battlefield or in different locations. If there aren't then Minato will spread them himself. No questions about it.

Yet Itachi used Susanoo to protect Sasuke while under the effects of white rage.

The FTG kunai are spread for offensive purposes, not defensive purposes, and so he only has reason to spread that many kunai when he's up against multiple shinobi, not one. At best he'd have one or two kunai lying around, no more than that, and two kunai aren't going to help considering Kabuto can easily anticipate which kunai he'd teleport to.

Itachi's an Edo. He doesn't feel pain.

 

[Brother Numpsay]

It is still same ability and I don't get how this DNA stuff effects the properties of the justu since it is a hiden ninjutsu that can be learned by knowing the secreat of the jutsu means that it has nothing to do with DNA IMO(he need it for research though).

Iam well aware of the fact that researching and modifying means not just knowing about the ability but what I have been saying is that nothing implies that Kabuto succeeded to bypass its weakness against lightning,it has more than one weak point so it is not logical to say that he managed to overcome all of em based on assumptions without having considerable knowledge.In a way Kabuto's ability is inferior to that of Suigetsu as it is possible to wound Kabuto with surprise attacks which proves that even Kabuto didn't achived 100% accuracy. For all we know Kabuto managed to kill the problem of dehydration so my point is what if the modifications of Kabuto are only to overcome dehydration but not for lightning? there are alot of things that were well researched and modified but still has considerable weakpoints so still there is a possibility for Kabuto to have that weakness so we shouldn't overlook it.Kabuto's fluids are different from Mizukages Oil so that argument is out of qustion.

Once again let me tell u that u actually managed to convince me with ur reasons and I agree with u but Iam simpy saying that we shouldn't use that as 100% accurate proof so there is no point in arguing with me about this as we both are on same track.I hope I made my point clear and sorry for any spelling and grammatical mistakes,Iam not quite familiar with English(not even my second language).

1.Hiden nujutsu are through linage, by oral.

2. Again why do you think he didnt defeat its weakness considering that Kabuto doesnt transform into water?

 

[Bronze]

Whether Kabuto was right about Itachi or not it irrelavent here: Kabuto thought that Itachi sensed him which means that Kabuto know that it is possible for sensors to sense him that is what Iam saying.He thought that because it is possible otherwise he would have said something like oh how could u track me? insted of qustioning him if he has sensor abilities or not.

*Sigh*

Itachi answered him by saying ''I wield no such power''. And then, he adds on with the fact that he knows what is on Kabuto's head, which later, Kabuto praises his reading mind abilities, making him his previous ''thought'', a contradiction.

 

[Avinash012]

1.Hiden nujutsu are through linage, by oral.

2. Again why do you think he didnt defeat its weakness considering that Kabuto doesnt transform into water?

Hiden ninjutus is something that can be learned as long as u know the secreat behind the jutsu it has nothing to do with lineage and it is limited to a certain clan because only that clan member know the secreat behind the jutsu.

I have already told u that I agree with but still Iam not ready to accept that Kabuto managed to overcome all of it's weak points as we don't have enough proof.

*Sigh*

Itachi answered him by saying ''I wield no such power''. And then, he adds on with the fact that he knows what is on Kabuto's head, which later, Kabuto praises his reading mind abilities, making him his previous ''thought'', a contradiction.

Bro,let me explain this with an example:

First of all let me tell u that base of Imaginations and Ideas is the thought of possibility.

Let us assume that were friends and I invited u to my B'day party:

Here I thought that U'll come by car but u actually came to my home by walk and said that u didn't use car because U don't know how to drive the car which means that I was wrong about u being able to drive the car but still it dosen't change the fact that U/Ur family has a car.

Observe it I thought that u'll use car to reach my home because I knew that u have a car if u don't have a car I wouldn't have thought about car and stuff. the same way it is possible to sense Kabuto in that condition which is why Kabuto thought that Itachi sensed him,if it is not possible to sense him then Kabuto wouldn't made that assumption about Itachi.

 

[Gold Lightning]

The FTG kunai are spread for offensive purposes, not defensive purposes, and so he only has reason to spread that many kunai when he's up against multiple shinobi, not one. At best he'd have one or two kunai lying around, no more than that, and two kunai aren't going to help considering Kabuto can easily anticipate which kunai he'd teleport to.

Itachi's an Edo. He doesn't feel pain.

So when Obito caught Minato in his chains, did he not use the spread kunai as a mean of escaping, in other words "defense".

Like how you don't bring up the scan I showed you proving your immobilization only technique theory wrong.

So why was Itachi covering his ears and closing his eyes? Obviously he should have walked right through the genjutsu whistling right?

All Minato's battles have spread kunai, not going into this any further.

 

[Brother Numpsay]

Hiden ninjutus is something that can be learned as long as u know the secreat behind the jutsu it has nothing to do with lineage and it is limited to a certain clan because only that clan member know the secreat behind the jutsu.

I have already told u that I agree with but still Iam not ready to accept that Kabuto managed to overcome all of it's weak points as we don't have enough proof..

Go to Narutopeida and look up Hiden. If you disagree with the info bring scans to support your claim, "that anyone can use hiden and it is nothing blood related."

Yes we do have proof. Kabuto said created his own body fluids. He separated the context on his differs from Suigetsu.
Kabutos intelligence should be question if otherwise.

 

[Avinash012]

Go to Narutopeida and look up Hiden. If you disagree with the info bring scans to support your claim, "that anyone can use hiden and it is nothing blood related."

This is what Wiki says

hiden (秘伝; Literally meaning "secret tradition") or simply "secret" techniques are passed down orally from generation to generation in certain regions or clans.

The groups who possess these techniques are usually extremely secretive about them in order to ensure that no one other than the members of the group or clan learn them. As such, they are passed down through oral means instead of being written down or recorded. A few hiden techniques require a special ability or lineage and as such are usually the pride and fame of the clan that possesses them. The Nara clan's Shadow Imitation Technique and the Aburame clan's Parasitic Destruction Insect Technique are examples of this. These techniques also cannot be copied through any means of simple observation.

They are not to be confused with kekkei genkai, as technically, hiden techniques can be taught to anyone.

Yes we do have proof. Kabuto said created his own body fluids. He separated the context on his differs from Suigetsu.
Kabutos intelligence should be question if otherwise.

Creating his own fluids =/= overcoming all weak points.
As I said saying Kabuto succeeded 100% is not wise as u can see his ability is still inferior to that of Suigetsu.

 

[Brother Numpsay]

This is what Wiki says




Creating his own fluids =/= overcoming all weak points.
I said saying Kabuto succeeded 100% is not wise as u can see his ability is still inferior to that of Suigetsu.

1. I concede here.
2. What weaknesses? Explain how does it applied to Kabuto.

 

[Avinash012]

1. I concede here.
2. What weaknesses? Explain how does it applied to Kabuto.

Lightning release and the fact that we don't have legit proof to say that Kabuto managed to overcome this weakness is enough to say that it can be applied to Kabuto.

Iam stopping this here as we are not going to get anywhere with this and in future U can have my support regarding this topic as I agree with ur points.

 

[shelke]

KCM Minato gets man-handled. SM Minato is a rape with no Vaseline. Please show me Minato's counters to Inorganic Transmigration and White Rage alone and then we can talk something. Also, SM Minato isn't blitzing DSM Kabuto; what rubbish. Any attack from Minato can easily be countered by Liquification alone. FTG Kunais are countered via Inorganic Transmigration that literally animates the environment, making Kabuto move it at his will. Manda two man-handles any summon from the fruit.

How is this even a debate, when Minato has no counter to any of Kabuto's deadly move-set?

 

[Champ]

If Kabuto can heal from all attacks, I don't see Minato killing him.

 

[Joker]

KCM Minato gets man-handled. SM Minato is a rape with no Vaseline. Please show me Minato's counters to Inorganic Transmigration and White Rage alone and then we can talk something. Also, SM Minato isn't blitzing DSM Kabuto; what rubbish. Any attack from Minato can easily be countered by Liquification alone. FTG Kunais are countered via Inorganic Transmigration that literally animates the environment, making Kabuto move it at his will. Manda two man-handles any summon from the fruit.

How is this even a debate, when Minato has no counter to any of Kabuto's deadly move-set?

Ask the Minato fans who're coming up with bogus counters, it's really no competition.

 

[shelke]

Ask the Minato fans who're coming up with bogus counters, it's really no competition.

I have read them, and they are doing what they do worse - grasp at straws.

 

[Gold Lightning]

I have read them, and they are doing what they do worse - grasp at straws.

says the guy who thinks sasuke can solo the 5 kage, hilarious

 

[Curse Mark]

I have read them, and they are doing what they do worse - grasp at straws.

hahahaaaaaa