SM Jiraiya vs MS Itachi (Poll)

[GodSasuke]

Fu*ck yeah. I love u man.

 

[chad062388]

J-man for the win!

 

[TheFirstHokage]

Alright, this is to make clear that J-man can beat Itachi, other than the fact that itachi said it himself.

People for some reason think all jiraiya has is SM and without it he is crap. :flaw:

Most people dont know jiraiya can use Shadow Manipulation Techniques

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and his Fuinjutsu with his powerful Fire Sealings

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some proof from there fight for naruto


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I won say itahci is an easy cake to slice, since he has his own powerful skills

Susanoo

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Amateratsu
etc...

But Ranks also matter, since ninjas are clasified in ranks for the power.
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Jiraiya
Classification


Itachi
Classification


This are Jiraiyas most powerful Moves

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Barrier: Canopy Method Formation
Barrier: Toad Gourd Prison
Earth Release: Swamp of the Underworld
Finger Carving Seal
Fire Release: Big Flame Bullet
Fire Release: Dragon Fire Technique
Fire Release: Flame Bullet
Fire Release: Toad Oil Flame Bullet
Fire Sealing Method
Five Elements Unseal
Hiding in a Toad Technique
Needle Hell (Anime only)
Needle Jizō
Rasengan
Sage Art: Goemon
Sage Art: Hair Needle Senbon
Sage Mode
Shadow Clone Technique
Summoning Technique (Toads)
Summoning: Crushing Toad Stomach (Anime only)
Summoning: Food Cart Destroyer Technique
Summoning: Toad Mouth Bind
Summoning: Toad Shop Technique
Toad Flatness — Shadow Manipulation Technique
Toad Oil Bullet
Transparent Escape Technique
Turning into a Frog Technique
Twin Rasengan
Ultra-Big Ball Rasengan
Wild Lion's Mane Technique

Itachis most powerful Jutsus

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Amaterasu
Clone Great Explosion
Crow Clone Technique
Demonic Illusion: Burning Paper Body
Demonic Illusion: Mirror Heaven and Earth Change
Demonic Illusion: Shackling Stakes Technique
Dusk Crow Genjutsu
Ephemeral
Fire Release: Great Fireball Technique
Fire Release: Phoenix Sage Fire Technique
Fire Release: Phoenix Sage Flower Nail Crimson (Manga only)
Shadow Clone Technique
Susanoo
Transcription Seal: Amaterasu
Tsukuyomi
Water Release: Water Fang Bullet
Yasaka Magatama (Manga only)

And if you fanboys wont agree, then atleast accept the fact that they are MAYBE equals


Jiraiya Status

Ninjutsu 5
Taijutsu 4.5
Genjutsu 3
Intelligence 4.5
Strength 4.5
Speed 4.5
Stamina 5
Hand seals 4.5

Total 35.5

Itachi status

Ninjutsu 5
Taijutsu 4.5
Genjutsu 5
Intelligence 5
Strength 3.5
Speed 5
Stamina 2.5
Hand seals 5

Total 35.5

Didn't I just make this thread?xd

 

[Itachi Namikaze]

Got Beat!? he just got caught in a genjutsu, not screwed up and almost dead.:flaw:

With SM he is practicly Anti-genjutsu


Your jstu jealous kiddo. :flaw:

Except for the fact that Ma and Pa can't do shit against Tsukuyomi. It is instant. How are they going to try and break Jiraiya out of that?


And what about Amaterasu? If it touches Jiraiya it is game over, he will have to sacrifice an arm (or more) like A did.

And don't even get me started on Susanoo. There is nothing that Jiraiya can do to Itachi's Susanoo. Yata mirror +Totsuka sword= nothing breaking into that Susanoo and anything coming near being sealed.


So what is your entire battle plan for Jiraiya? Start the battle and have Jiraiya constantly run around looking at the ground while trying to dodge Amaterasu and the Totsuka sword? Because that is probably the best plan I have ever heard.

 

[GodSasuke]

So what is your entire battle plan for Jiraiya? Start the battle and have Jiraiya constantly run around looking at the ground while trying to dodge Amaterasu and the Totsuka sword? Because that is probably the best plan I have ever heard.

What you said here is genious. You should be aware Itachi has low stamina. Jiraiya can capitalize when his EMS is desactivated.

 

[Itachi Namikaze]

What you said here is genious. You should be aware Itachi has low stamina. Jiraiya can capitalize when his EMS is desactivated.

Everyone has to admit that, that is the only way Jiraiya can win against Itachi.

You just can't straight up battle Itachi. It is suicide because of his MS abilities and legendary weapons.

So I'll give the Jiraiya fanboys that. If Jiraiya were to run around constantly and look like a retard while Itachi held up Susanoo then Jiraiya could win by default.

 

[~MC117~]

J-man would beat itachi any day.

 

[devojoyti halder]

What a stupid thread.
Itachi wins.
Itachi said that he didn't wanna fight jiraya because he was a pacifist, and since he was in konoha, a big fight will only attract other reinforcement.

Jiraya sucks at genjutsu, itachi is genjutsu master, jiraya will see itachi poke his eyes, and torture him for 30 days.

Showing jiraya's powers better than itachi is meaningless.

 

[dreamergs]

I don't agree. And you can't call me a fanboy because Jiraiya is my third favorite character.

My favorite characters are Minato, Itachi, Jiraiya, and Naruto.

Let me tell you why Jiraiya can't beat Itachi. It all comes down to one thing. Genjutsu. Itachi is the best at it. He starts off basically every battle with genjutsu, and so far only Sasuke has been able to break even one of his genjutsus. (But Itachi released the last genjutsu so that he could fight Sasuke)

Oro got caught in a genjutsu. Deidara got caught in a genjutsu and was about to kill himself. Naruto got caught in a genjutsu (Naruto did not break it himself). Kakashi got caught in a genjutsu. Kurenai, a genjutsu specialist, got caught in a genjutsu. Sasuke got caught in a genjutsu. Hell, Itachi himself got caught in his latest genjutsu.

So far the only person that has beaten Itachi's genjutsu is Sasuke one time, and Killer Bee via Samehada.

So excluding the possibility of Jiraiya being a perfect jinchurriki and having Samehada, he loses this every time.

Duh.. We are talking SM <-- Sage Mode Jiraya... that means he will have Ma and Pa on his shoulder... meaning they will wake him up from any Genjutsu.. read the manga, get some facts.

 

[dreamergs]

Except for the fact that Ma and Pa can't do shit against Tsukuyomi. It is instant. How are they going to try and break Jiraiya out of that?


And what about Amaterasu? If it touches Jiraiya it is game over, he will have to sacrifice an arm (or more) like A did.

And don't even get me started on Susanoo. There is nothing that Jiraiya can do to Itachi's Susanoo. Yata mirror +Totsuka sword= nothing breaking into that Susanoo and anything coming near being sealed.


So what is your entire battle plan for Jiraiya? Start the battle and have Jiraiya constantly run around looking at the ground while trying to dodge Amaterasu and the Totsuka sword? Because that is probably the best plan I have ever heard.

1rst. Tsukuyomi isnt instant ! if u mean he dont need handseals and "casting time" yea i agree but the duration of the jutsu isnt affected by "real time" remember that tsukuyomi is kind of a time-space genjutsu where the opponent its caught on a "endless" genjutsu, despite of that time pass by normaly on the opponent. so yea they will have plenty time to wake him up =/ !

 

[Miruto senpai]

1rst. Tsukuyomi isnt instant ! if u mean he dont need handseals and "casting time" yea i agree but the duration of the jutsu isnt affected by "real time" remember that tsukuyomi is kind of a time-space genjutsu where the opponent its caught on a "endless" genjutsu, despite of that time pass by normaly on the opponent. so yea they will have plenty time to wake him up =/ !

I think you got it the other way round. In the world of Tsukuyomi, time passes as much as Itachi wants but in the real world it only lasts 1 second.
Do you really think ma and pa could tell that Jiraiya is in a genjutsu? By the time they realise it, Jiraiya would be dead.

Seriously face the facts, look Itachi said he would only stalemate with Jiraiya, so you trust Itachi's words. So then it also means that you believe Itachi when he said he wanted to take Sasuke's eyes during their battle? Some fanboys really don't know when to stop...

 

[Turson]

Itachi wins, and it has nothing to do with fanboism, he just has superior skills. He can just take control over sage toads on Jiraiyas arms, and just make them to decapitate old pervy.

 

[FloriGlori]

You'd think that Itachi Namikaze and Turson are the only ones with some brains around here.

It's obvious that Itachi has the upper hand here, thanks to his superior Mangekyou techniques. Giving Jiraiya Sennin Modo from the very beginning, which normally takes about ten minutes of preparation, will only ensure his immunity to normal Genjutsu. 'Normal' does not include Tsukuyomi however, since it only takes one second. There won't be time for Ma & Pa to cancel it. Once they're aware of it, Jiraiya is already knocked out.

 

[24 12 11 to troll]

jiraiya would win with fukusaku and ma with him , but if not they he cant do anything vs susanoo and have to play the long game... hed win either way though

 

[24 12 11 to troll]

You'd think that Itachi Namikaze and Turson are the only ones with some brains around here.

It's obvious that Itachi has the upper hand here, thanks to his superior Mangekyou techniques. Giving Jiraiya Sennin Modo from the very beginning, which normally takes about ten minutes of preparation, will only ensure his immunity to normal Genjutsu. 'Normal' does not include Tsukuyomi however, since it only takes one second. There won't be time for Ma & Pa to cancel it. Once they're aware of it, Jiraiya is already knocked out.

sasuke broke tsukoyomi , and with sage chakra its like uv gone super saiyan 4 , he would ease out of tsukoyomi , and fukusaku and pa can attack itachi while hes casting the genjutsu , which would further release the genjutsu , they can put itachi in a genjutsu which would trap him , and he would lose all his chakra basically itachi loses to SM jiraiya

 

[24 12 11 to troll]

Itachi wins, and it has nothing to do with fanboism, he just has superior skills. He can just take control over sage toads on Jiraiyas arms, and just make them to decapitate old pervy.

the toads can pull itachi out of susanoo , and break jiraiya out of tsukoyomi , jiraiyas too fast to be caught by amaterasu and his taijutsu can easily kill itachi with 1 kick , i mean jiraiya sent 1 of the pains flying 200 metres or so , and also itachi would run out of chakra and stamina so quickly ,
jiraiya rapes , not cus of strength but because itachi is a perfect match , in a way that fire+wind=BIG FIRE

 

[24 12 11 to troll]

I think you got it the other way round. In the world of Tsukuyomi, time passes as much as Itachi wants but in the real world it only lasts 1 second.
Do you really think ma and pa could tell that Jiraiya is in a genjutsu? By the time they realise it, Jiraiya would be dead.

Seriously face the facts, look Itachi said he would only stalemate with Jiraiya, so you trust Itachi's words. So then it also means that you believe Itachi when he said he wanted to take Sasuke's eyes during their battle? Some fanboys really don't know when to stop...

itachi stalemates with base jiraiya , jiraiya is too fast for amaterasu , too much chakra for tsukoyomi and ma and pa can get itachi in genjutsu and disturb a genjutsu , on top of that susanoo is uselfes because ma has that crazy tongue that can pull itachi out of susanoo , making him defenceless , jiraiya stomps with low difficulty , not cus hes much stronger , but because fire+wind = big fire , similar to SM+mangekyo = easy match

 

[Frank Uzumaki]

That would be one badass fight!!

 

[24 12 11 to troll]

this fight is basically ssj4 goku vs 1st form frieza and the captain ginyu , goku rape stomps , so jiraiya would rape stomp

 

[FloriGlori]

sasuke broke tsukoyomi , and with sage chakra its like uv gone super saiyan 4 , he would ease out of tsukoyomi , and fukusaku and pa can attack itachi while hes casting the genjutsu , which would further release the genjutsu , they can put itachi in a genjutsu which would trap him , and he would lose all his chakra basically itachi loses to SM jiraiya

itachi stalemates with base jiraiya , jiraiya is too fast for amaterasu , too much chakra for tsukoyomi and ma and pa can get itachi in genjutsu and disturb a genjutsu , on top of that susanoo is uselfes because ma has that crazy tongue that can pull itachi out of susanoo , making him defenceless , jiraiya stomps with low difficulty , not cus hes much stronger , but because fire+wind = big fire , similar to SM+mangekyo = easy match

the toads can pull itachi out of susanoo , and break jiraiya out of tsukoyomi , jiraiyas too fast to be caught by amaterasu and his taijutsu can easily kill itachi with 1 kick , i mean jiraiya sent 1 of the pains flying 200 metres or so , and also itachi would run out of chakra and stamina so quickly ,
jiraiya rapes , not cus of strength but because itachi is a perfect match , in a way that fire+wind=BIG FIRE

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