SM Jiraiya vs Killer Bee

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Location: Unraikyo (or whatever it's called)
Intel: Jiraiya knows Bee is a jinchuuriki with full control over his bijuu. Bee knows Jiraiya is a legendary Sannin.
Conditions: Jiraiya starts in SM with Ma and Pa on his shoulders
Distance: 100 meters

Now this is probably an unpopular opinion, but I think Jiraiya wins.
 

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BM Bee solos the sannin imo
 

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Killer Bee stomps the living shit.

Jiraiya can't compete with him in CQC. Bee demonstrated far greater speed, physical power and added with his Bijuu power. Jiraiya lacks the Sennin mode sensing, as evident that Asura catched him off-guard. Killer Bee overwhelmed Sasuke with the sword dance. His movements are so fast that Sharingan cannot read it. Jiraiya will end being stabbed by each sword. Jiraiya's summonings are irrelevant. They get ridden of Bee's Bijuu shock-wave. Most of Jiraiya's attacks will be tanked by the durability of the Bijuu cloak. Killer Bee can end it with Lariat.​
 

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Killer bee stomps him
 

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You might want to restrict Bee to V1, that's the only way this match could be even remotely fair.
 

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Sage Mode Jiraiya takes it with boss summons.

Bee gots no counter to Toad Stomach Trap.

Five Elements Seal suppresses the Hachibi chakra.

Swamp of the Underworld, Food cart destroyer takes care of Biju form.
 
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Killer Bee stomps the living shit.

Jiraiya can't compete with him in CQC. Bee demonstrated far greater speed, physical power and added with his Bijuu power. Jiraiya lacks the Sennin mode sensing, as evident that Asura catched him off-guard. Killer Bee overwhelmed Sasuke with the sword dance. His movements are so fast that Sharingan cannot read it. Jiraiya will end being stabbed by each sword. Jiraiya's summonings are irrelevant. They get ridden of Bee's Bijuu shock-wave. Most of Jiraiya's attacks will be tanked by the durability of the Bijuu cloak. Killer Bee can end it with Lariat.​

Jiraiya can react to Bee's quick movements by detecting them before he gets near, using his sensing barrier. Look at how huge it is, it easily encompassed Gamabunta

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Since Jiraiya can react to Bee's quick attacks in base/V1/V2, he can counter with a massive rasengan.

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Now 1 rasengan probably isn't enough to put down Bee in V2. So Jiraiya could replicate Naruto's feat and crush him with a Massive Rasengan Barrage

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In the event that Bee goes full BM, Ma and Pa use Frog Call to paralyze him

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Then Jiraiya uses Yomi Numa to sink him

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And to make sure Bee sinks deep into the swamp Jiraiya slams Bunta on top of him with Food Cart Destroyer

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Then Jiraiya dries up the swamp with this, entombing Bee deep within the earth

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(it's pretty much the same strategy the Shinobi Alliance used on the juubi)
 
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Jiraiya killer bee is stupid and he lost to kisame so jiraiya
 

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Jiraiya can react to Bee's quick movements by detecting them before he gets near, using his sensing barrier. Look at how huge it is, it easily encompassed Gamabunta

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Since Jiraiya can react to Bee's quick attacks in base/V1/V2, he can counter with a massive rasengan.

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Now 1 rasengan probably isn't enough to put down Bee in V2. So Jiraiya could replicate Naruto's feat and crush him with a Massive Rasengan Barrage

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In the event that Bee goes full BM, Ma and Pa use Frog Call to paralyze him

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Then Jiraiya uses Yomi Numa to sink him

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And to make sure Bee sinks deep into the swamp Jiraiya slams Bunta on top of him with Food Cart Destroyer

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Then Jiraiya dries up the swamp with this, entombing Bee deep within the earth

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(it's pretty much the same strategy the Shinobi Alliance used on the juubi)

1). The barrier doesn't give him sensory perception to Sennin mode. The databook explained that it's used to help Jiraiya detect more precisely. He is not sensing Bee's movements, and his body can't keep up.

2). Bee in Bijuu mode tanked his TBB, and his tail tanked Juubi's TBB before being wrapped. Since Naruto in 6 tails tanked his TBB, Jiraiya's Rasengan will effortlessly be tanked. And Jiraiya can't perform multi-Kage: Bunshin. His Chakra reserves don't allow him.

3). Hachibi's mass prevents him from being sucked in. Furthermore, the whirlwind easily pushes all of the Doton away. Considering Bee uses Raiton, an elemental advantage over Doton, it's not going to work. And if Gamabunta is summoned upon Bee, the former will see through it and stop him with his tails. [ ]

I will reply later.​
 

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Lol at people assuming this is a stomp match in Bee's favor. It's far from it. It could go either way high difficulty, but I'm actually personally leaning towards Jiraiya on this. An SM-enhanced Yomi Numa followed by a Food Cart Destroyer combined with a Juubi-sized Katon is enough to render Bijuu-mode useless. And, no, Hachibi Whirlwind isn't happening because Yomi Numa is specifically meant to make its victims' movements impossible. Not to mention, like Bean pointed out, the two Great Sages can incapacitate him with their music in order to make sure he cannot move at all in order to escape the Swamp.
 
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It's a ridiculous blasphemy that B ends this with a single Lariat: that's never happening, especially with SM activated, and Fukasaku and Shima on his shoulders, and B starting in base - presumably.

We've been shown that not only can they place beings in Genjutsu, but also paralyze them with that can affect from a considerable distance. That being said, no matter how fast B in reality is, he is still open for or that was able to suppress even a summoning. With that being said, Jiraiya can use Kage Bunshin to either finish him with a or the Rasengan. Assuming B wouldn't want that to happen, he'd have two choices:

1. Transform V2 to abscond of his hold.

2. Turn full bijū to break out free.

The first one is tricky, but the second one shouldn't turn out any trickier. Even base Jiraiya was able to sink Manda in . Assuming that SM reserves create much bigger as well as mud restrains him, which can be strengthened with his hair that completely immobilizes B/Hachibi. After that, Gamayudan & Katon burns Hachibi into ashes.

While V2 is fast, it can still be paralyzed by Senpō: Kawazu Naki. Thanks to that, Jiraiya can whenever he wants to, flatten B with that stopped full Kurama in his tracks.
 
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I think Jiraiya has a far better chance than a lot of you think.
 

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sorry this comment is goona hurt you but bee stomps we all know it i like jiraiya more but thats the truth :(
 

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1). The barrier doesn't give him sensory perception to Sennin mode. The databook explained that it's used to help Jiraiya detect more precisely. He is not sensing Bee's movements, and his body can't keep up.

2). Bee in Bijuu mode tanked his TBB, and his tail tanked Juubi's TBB before being wrapped. Since Naruto in 6 tails tanked his TBB, Jiraiya's Rasengan will effortlessly be tanked. And Jiraiya can't perform multi-Kage: Bunshin. His Chakra reserves don't allow him.

3). Hachibi's mass prevents him from being sucked in. Furthermore, the whirlwind easily pushes all of the Doton away. Considering Bee uses Raiton, an elemental advantage over Doton, it's not going to work. And if Gamabunta is summoned upon Bee, the former will see through it and stop him with his tails. [ ]

I will reply later.​

1. The point of the barrier is to alert Jiraiya where Bee is coming from and prevent an attack from a blind spot. The barrier is huge so Jiraiya will be alerted the moment Bee crosses the barrier, long before Bee reaches Jiraiya so he will have plenty of time to react. Not to mention, Jiraiya has frog kata (though not to the extent that Naruto has shown.) Look in my sig. To top it all off, Jiraiya has two perfect sages perched on his shoulders so sensing Bee is definitely not an issue.

2. Did you seriously just say Jiraiya can't make multiple kage bunshins...Chapter 1 Naruto could make dozens of clones effortlessly, and Jiraiya admonished him during training for his poor chakra control. Jiraiya has huge chakra reserves, and the fact that he can use Sage Mode at all is a testament to that. . When he's in Sage Mode he has access to all that nature energy so there's no doubt that he can do so.

3. Hachibi's mass is irrelevant here. The swamp is just too huge. 30% drugged Jiraiya was capable of sinking one of Orochimaru's boss snakes with that swamp, and on the next page he critiques his own work.

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So even a healthy base Jiraiya can make a much bigger swamp than the one shown. Add in the Sage Mode factor, which enhances all ninjutsu by a lot, and the swamp would easily encompass the Hachibi without difficulty. Bee would be paralyzed by frog call, so whirlwind is not an option and neither is protecting himself from Bunta with his tails. To use raiton, Bee would have to go into base or V1, which would leave him vulnerable to Jiraiya's attacks - but it doesn't matter anyway since he'd still be paralyzed by Frog Call, so he can't stick a raiton sword in the ground (I have my doubts about raiton working anyway...)
 

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B Wins medium difficulty U_U
 

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1. The point of the barrier is to alert Jiraiya where Bee is coming from and prevent an attack from a blind spot. The barrier is huge so Jiraiya will be alerted the moment Bee crosses the barrier, long before Bee reaches Jiraiya so he will have plenty of time to react. Not to mention, Jiraiya has frog kata (though not to the extent that Naruto has shown.) Look in my sig. To top it all off, Jiraiya has two perfect sages perched on his shoulders so sensing Bee is definitely not an issue.

2. Did you seriously just say Jiraiya can't make multiple kage bunshins...Chapter 1 Naruto could make dozens of clones effortlessly, and Jiraiya admonished him during training for his poor chakra control. Jiraiya has huge chakra reserves, and the fact that he can use Sage Mode at all is a testament to that. . When he's in Sage Mode he has access to all that nature energy so there's no doubt that he can do so.

3. Hachibi's mass is irrelevant here. The swamp is just too huge. 30% drugged Jiraiya was capable of sinking one of Orochimaru's boss snakes with that swamp, and on the next page he critiques his own work.

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So even a healthy base Jiraiya can make a much bigger swamp than the one shown. Add in the Sage Mode factor, which enhances all ninjutsu by a lot, and the swamp would easily encompass the Hachibi without difficulty. Bee would be paralyzed by frog call, so whirlwind is not an option and neither is protecting himself from Bunta with his tails. To use raiton, Bee would have to go into base or V1, which would leave him vulnerable to Jiraiya's attacks - but it doesn't matter anyway since he'd still be paralyzed by Frog Call, so he can't stick a raiton sword in the ground (I have my doubts about raiton working anyway...)

1). The barrier large is irrelevant. Bee has shown to cross mountain distances in a split of second, and that was only his base speed: [ ]. Keep it in mind that he was electrocuted, so his nerve system would slow his movements down. In V1, he will blitz the shit of Jiraiya. [ ] The barrier alerting him is irrelevant, because Jiraiya's reactions and movements have not been impressive in all of his fights. He is fighting against brutal Taijutsu user boosted with Bjuu power. That wasn't Frog Kata. It was a kick, nothing more. The two frogs aren't the one combating Bee, so their sensing is irrelevant. Not to mention they couldn't sense Asura path from a behind, a point you keep ignoring.

2). Naruto's Chakra supplies are far larger than Jiraiya's. First, he is an Uzumaki who naturally inherited a supply of Chakra that is above an average. Minato mastered SM. Does that mean he can replicate Naruto's feats? No, it doesn't. I have literally no reason to believe that Jiraiya can replicate what Naruto. His fight against Pain, he ran out of Chakra after around 4 chapters; whereas Naruto ran out after 15 chapters, and given off that Naruto's techniques uses more Chakra than Jiraiya.

3) Yes, it is. Hachibi is a mountain size beast. Unless you think that Jiraiya can sink a mountain effortlessly, then you're fanboying. Frog Call requires both Sennin frogs to jump of his shoulder, which will return Jiraiya back to his base form due to unable to gather natural energy on his own. [ ] He wouldn't be vulnerable to Jiraiya's attacks, cause they're fodder and tanked without damage.​
 
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