Temari a non-factor? Temari levelled a forest in part 1, and her wind cast net pierced Raikage's base body. Temari is nearly never a non-factor. Gaara solos SM Jiraiya. How is Jiraiya weaving hand seals/summoning seal while in a sand coffin? That makes no sense.. Fire doesn't affect the Sand, the only thing affecting it is the oil, and that's not nearly sufficient enough to end the fight. Why? Because large scale
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crush Bunta's limbs from the second he is summoned, rendering him useless. And no, it doesn't have to be a desert to happen [
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]. Jiraiya doesn't have SM Sensing, don't know where you got that from [x
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Barrier sensing is useless, it doesn't detect chakra thus Gaara attacking from underneath will be instantaneous anyways. Deidara's bird is slow now? Even though Kakashi couldn't keep up with it and it was on par with Onoki's flying speed? The same Sand that forced Deidara to blow himself up in order to escape, has canonically blocked Enton, stopped v3 Susano swings, intercepted Yasaka Magatama, outsped his father's gold dust and stopped the entire C3 explosion? ***** pls. Jiraiya isn't dodging shit here, he hasn't the feats nor the hype to do so, with or without sensing barrier. And wait what? The toad now has speed sufficient enough to do so? Why exactly? Because it can jump? Nice. You have no support to most of your points here.
Yes, against an expert katon user like Jiraiya, Temari is ****ed. She uses wind cast net; he uses Goemon. Lmao, Jiraiya escapes sand coffins like this
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or he uses
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to protect himself from the coffin, something that was able to
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, so it can certainly withstand the pressure of at least 1 sand coffin (Gaara couldn't even seriously damage CM1 Kimimaro). What else he can do is spit oil from his mouth and disable the sand around him like the
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. Or if the sand coffin is airborne, he can use
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on the sand below him, causing it to give way and let him fall through. Jiraiya has a variety of ways to escape from tight situations. Lol, those scans of sand arms you posted were puny. Sand arms on a scale large enough to crush Bunta's leg take much more sand which Gaara has to prepare and can't do so in a moment's notice (not saying big sand arms are slow, they are just not instantaneous). I was referring to the elder Sages perched on Jiraiya's shoulders, both of who are sage sensors. @Bold, um think about what you just said. There is literally no reason the barrier shouldn't detect Gaara's sand, whether it's chakra-based sensing or not, it senses movement, it allows him to
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, so he can for example hear the sand coming. What's more is that the barrier is
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so he can detect attacks coming from afar. And in addition to that, he has Fukusaku and Shima on his shoulders, both perfect Sags. Gaara attacking from beneath is far from instantaneous, especially if not in a desert setting. Jiraiya can easily react to Gaara's attacks especially with the assistance of boss summons. Yep, toads can jump? Do I need to remind you of the time Gamabunta solo'd Shukaku? Toads can spit oil or water out of their mouths to render the sand useless, or use their weapons to
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or cut through walls of sand. If a toad finds itself in a tough spot, it leaps far out of the area into a safe spot. Toads can cover huge distances, Gamakichi crossed hundreds of juubi clones in a single bound. Gaara won't be putting them down easily at all.
What does sensing have to do with anything? He won't be able to bodily react, plain and simple. And wot. Jiraiya can now utiliise Rasengan mid-blitz of Ay? Stop the wank man. Yes, but then again that leaves them all vulnerable to Darui+C combo, which allows Cee to guide Darui's Storm release/Black lightning. Dust cloud eventually wears off and Ay blitzes. C uses his Raiton genjutsu and further re-establishes Ay's win, since you seem to think sensing=reacting for some odd reason, despite Lee saying perceiving with a Sharingan, which is above sensing, doesn't necessarily allow you to react.
"stop the wank man" oh my lanta someone is butthurt. Sensing has everything to do with it, one can see that Jiraiya's barrier is huge
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and he can detect the activities of those inside the perimeter, so - as soon as Raikage traverses the barrier Jiraiya knows his exact location and which direction he's coming from and then counter him with a massive rasengan in the Raikage's direction
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and kill him with the rasengan. Heck, Raikage could even run right into it if he is blinded by Shima's dust cloud or temporarily thrown off balance by Yomi Numa, during which Jiraiya could nail him. Ay isn't blitzing anything. Need be, Shima spits out her dust cloud while Jiraiya erects his barrier - and then Shima and Fukusaku paralyze the Raikage through
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, and then Jiraiya kills him with a massive rasengan while Ay is immobilized. F
uck it, Toad Confrontation Chant works if nothing else. "Dust cloud eventually wears off" yeah and then Shima spits out another. Cee's genjutsu is literally useless since Ma/Pa immediately snap Jiraiya out of genjutsu.
Umm.. Bro. Onoki uses Doton Bunshins, Akatsuchi covers the real Onoki with a rock golem, and thus all of Jiraiya's hair senbons are negated, assuming he's hitting the right one.. Then, Onoki grants flight and lightweight to Akatsuchi, he has a clone go to Kitsuchi, and grant him flight as well (and light weight). At this point, neither of them are being touched by any of Jiraiya's attacks. Onoki is definitely not being touched when he's light weight, since he's far faster than Deidara at that point. Not to mention the Senbon lacks any impressive speed feats, so they all comfortably dodge in flight. Akatsuchi covers Onoki with a rock golem, and then Onoki shoots his Jinton, since he's protected from any incoming attacks, and Jiraiya goes bye bye. Jiraiya's clones won't be SM, so they are useless. Onoki uses Doton Bunshins and deals with them handily, not to mention he can easily distinguish the difference in the non-SM and SM ones, with Shima and Fukasaku mounting the back. Explain how exactly 1. Jiraiya determines which is the real Onoki to pressure from long range 2. How he will dodge Jinton. 3. How he deals with Onoki's clones and their massive speed, along with dealing with their heavy weighted boulder jutsu and Onoki's Jinton from the sky. 4. How he deals with mountain smash from Kitsuchi.
I'm sure this lovely scenario that played out so well in your head will happen in actual combat. No, how is Onoki supposed to see through Akatsuchi's rock golem to know where Jiraiya is and therefore know where to aim his jinton? If he's not always protectedby the golem, Kebari senbon takes him down. Clones can be dealt with individually with other clones or summons which can be used to provide diversions. @bold, really it's not like Jiraiya can do a basic transformation jutsu or anything huh. 1. He doesn't determine which one is real, rather he takes all the clones out (which hasn't been shown to be more than 4) with his hair techniques and Ma/Pa's individual techniques such as their extendable tongues which can grab a flying clone and reel him in to Jiraiya who kills it with a rasengan or they use frog call/dust cloud to cloud Onoki's vision and his clones' vision jesus there are so many options. 2. He mixes himself in with clones, clouds Onoki's vision with shima's technique, constantly assails him should he stop to load up jinton, summons toads to constantly assault him preventing him from loading a jinton 3. Already explained this really 4. he doesn't need to since kitsuchi is not included dumbass
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