SM Jiraiya and Zetsu Orochimaru vs Killer Bee and Ay

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Location: Sannin Showdown
Intel: Manga
Distance: 70 meters
Restrictions: None

Scenario 2: Bee is limited to V2 but 3rd Raikage is added to his team.
 

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Orochimaru alone can take this with no restrictions. Now, going under the assumption that Edo-Tensei is restricted, the lose both scenarios. Bee's Bijuu bombs are more than capable of fodderizing the Sannin duo.
 

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With ET restricted, Jiraya dies and Orochimaru escapes.
 

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With ET, Team 1,
without it, Killer Bee alone can solo the first scenario,
and adding the third raikage, means that he can solo the second scenario
 

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With ET, Team 1,
without it, Killer Bee alone can solo the first scenario,
and adding the third raikage, means that he can solo the second scenario
I know they lose, but this is ludicrous. Orochimaru is more than a match for his brawn. He might not be able to pierce his defense, but just know Orochimaru gets a new body.
 

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I know they lose, but this is ludicrous. Orochimaru is more than a match for his brawn. He might not be able to pierce his defense, but just know Orochimaru gets a new body.

Nope, its not ridiculous at all,
orochimaru is getting wrecked,
none of them could even scratch him, and both of them are slower than him, by quite a margin,
Orochimaru is not tanking a nukite at all, when the attack is much stronger than even FRS,
and orochimaru resorting to oral rebirth (which drains him significantly) just ends him up even more weakened as the raikage uses the nukite again and kills him once he runs out of chakra,
 

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Nope, its not ridiculous at all,
orochimaru is getting wrecked,
none of them could even scratch him, and both of them are slower than him, by quite a margin,
Orochimaru is not tanking a nukite at all, when the attack is much stronger than even FRS,
and orochimaru resorting to oral rebirth (which drains him significantly) just ends him up even more weakened as the raikage uses the nukite again and kills him once he runs out of chakra,

As if 3rd could even catch Orochimaru, when his assault was countered by some fodder rubber guy.
 

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Nope, its not ridiculous at all,
orochimaru is getting wrecked,
none of them could even scratch him, and both of them are slower than him, by quite a margin,
Orochimaru is not tanking a nukite at all, when the attack is much stronger than even FRS,
and orochimaru resorting to oral rebirth (which drains him significantly) just ends him up even more weakened as the raikage uses the nukite again and kills him once he runs out of chakra,
This pitiful excuse is used so often. Why can't you comprehend Orochimaru's reserves are well above anu normal shinobi. This man was capable of summoning three, Rashomon Gates, and as the databook stated, that alone was a testament to his large chakra pool. The moment the Raikage pierces Orochimaru's skin, he spits his main body out, and it's a wrap from what we know.
 

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S1: Sannin lose. They have no way to redirect, prevent, or evade Bijuu Dama, nor can they get in any lasting damage on B when he goes full Hachibi. Bijuu Hachimaki+Bijuu Dama=2 Dead Sannin. Ay isn't really needed.

S2: Sannin lose. 3rd Raikage's durability is way too much for Jiraiya and Orochimaru. Their strongest offensive technique is Chou Oodama Rasengan, but considering FRS failed against him, he shrugs this attack off with no effort. Jiraiya nor Orochimaru can take any version of his Nukite, but Orochimaru can use Oral Rebirth. In close quarters Killer B also wrecks any of the two Sannin due to vastly superior speed, strength and durability. Kisame blocked V2 Lariat with his sword, didn't take a direct hit, and still got his chest blown out. A direct hit would have been an OHKO. Same happens to Jiraiya. Oro, once again, survives via Oral Rebirth. He can try and take someone's body, but since there are 3 of them and only 1 of him, that isn't going to end very well for him.

Team Kumo wins both scenarios with nothing more than mid difficulty.
 

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As if 3rd could even catch Orochimaru, when his assault was countered by some fodder rubber guy.

In what universe is Dodai a fodder? Him reacting to someone on V1 Ay's level of speed only means that he has good reactions, not that the Raikage is slow, because he isn't. Learn what fodder is. Fodder engaged the Raikage and they all got one shotted in an instant.

This pitiful excuse is used so often. Why can't you comprehend Orochimaru's reserves are well above anu normal shinobi. This man was capable of summoning three, Rashomon Gates, and as the databook stated, that alone was a testament to his large chakra pool. The moment the Raikage pierces Orochimaru's skin, he spits his main body out, and it's a wrap from what we know.
Reserves well above normal Shinobi doesn't mean that constant use of Oral Rebirth isn't going to eventually tire him out.
 

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In what universe is Dodai a fodder? Him reacting to someone on V1 Ay's level of speed only means that he has good reactions, not that the Raikage is slow, because he isn't. Learn what fodder is. Fodder engaged the Raikage and they all got one shotted in an instant.


Reserves well above normal Shinobi doesn't mean that constant use of Oral Rebirth isn't going to eventually tire him out.
I realize this, but he acts like Orochimaru's going to get tired in two hits. Not to mention any physical contact with the Raikage means more chakra added onto his reserves.
 

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S1: Sannin lose. They have no way to redirect, prevent, or evade Bijuu Dama, nor can they get in any lasting damage on B when he goes full Hachibi. Bijuu Hachimaki+Bijuu Dama=2 Dead Sannin. Ay isn't really needed.

S2: Sannin lose. 3rd Raikage's durability is way too much for Jiraiya and Orochimaru. Their strongest offensive technique is Chou Oodama Rasengan, but considering FRS failed against him, he shrugs this attack off with no effort. Jiraiya nor Orochimaru can take any version of his Nukite, but Orochimaru can use Oral Rebirth. In close quarters Killer B also wrecks any of the two Sannin due to vastly superior speed, strength and durability. Kisame blocked V2 Lariat with his sword, didn't take a direct hit, and still got his chest blown out. A direct hit would have been an OHKO. Same happens to Jiraiya. Oro, once again, survives via Oral Rebirth. He can try and take someone's body, but since there are 3 of them and only 1 of him, that isn't going to end very well for him.

Team Kumo wins both scenarios with nothing more than mid difficulty.

You say that even when Edo Tensei is not restricted? Mind explaining?
 

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In what universe is Dodai a fodder? Him reacting to someone on V1 Ay's level of speed only means that he has good reactions, not that the Raikage is slow, because he isn't. Learn what fodder is. Fodder engaged the Raikage and they all got one shotted in an instant.

That rubber guy countered 3rd's assault with another jutsu. He literally just stood there and created a rubber wall before 3rd even managed to get there. Dodging is thousand times easier to do, especially that the Raikage has the most pathetic fighting style ever - a straightforward dash.

If you really think he could catch Orochimaru... Hell, dodging it isn't even a must. He would get stopped just like Kyuubiruto, Enma or God Tree Branch.
 

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Either Ay or 3rd Raikage or Bee whack those fodders.

Neither of the two can even physically or mentally keep a track of their speed let alone react and intercept them. They don't have the fire-power to significantly damage them. However, the 3 can blitz, overpower, nuke them in any way. Unrestricted ET makes no difference, since Orochimaru can't control them to their full potential, and Hashirama breaking out and going against him violates the rules of a match-up.
 

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This pitiful excuse is used so often. Why can't you comprehend Orochimaru's reserves are well above anu normal shinobi.

Nope no mattter how much you try to overrate orochimarus reserves he is still not spamming oral rebirth
nor is he ever in a million years outlastiing third raikage who has bijuu level reserves,

This man was capable of summoning three, Rashomon Gates, andv as the databook stated, that alone was a testament to his large chakra pool. The moment the Raikage pierces Orochimaru's skin, he spits his main body out, and it's a wrap from what we know.
Lol at rashomon gates being a factor,
using databook as a statement for orochimarus reserves is also not hellping when he is still no where near the third,
--he lacks a way to even scratch him, how on earth is he beating him,
--him being slower than raikage as welll as his body being pierced by nukite with utmost ease
orochimaru spitting another body would just result in him being pierced by nukite again, and with him unable to use oral rebirth means that he dies,

As if 3rd could even catch Orochimaru, when his assault was countered by some fodder rubber guy.
Lol, No,
Orochimaru is still slower than the raikage whether u like it or not, the raikage can land a hit very easily on orochimaru, as the latter then dies to a nukite,
and dont even mention orochimarus summons, they get eradicated by the raikage with utmost ease
 

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That rubber guy countered 3rd's assault with another jutsu. He literally just stood there and created a rubber wall before 3rd even managed to get there. Dodging is thousand times easier to do, especially that the Raikage has the most pathetic fighting style ever - a straightforward dash.

In what universe is physically evading an attack faster than creating a defense right in front of you? Lmao.

-Its faster to use Susanoo than to move.

-Its faster to use a Mokuton Dome than to move.

Not to mention the Raikage didn't even use his Shunshin, he just dashed on foot and the real fodder still had trouble reacting to him.



If you really think he could catch Orochimaru... Hell, dodging it isn't even a must. He would get stopped just like Kyuubiruto, Enma or God Tree Branch.

V1 Ay=3rd Raikage>>>Orochimaru in speed. So yes, he's going to catch him, easily at that. I'm not seeing anything but "Rubber guy blocked his attack" as some kind of argument for Orochimaru outrunning the Raikage.

Or...he saws right through Orochimaru's fodder snakes and takes his head off with his spear.
 

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S1: Sannin lose. They have no way to redirect, prevent, or evade Bijuu Dama.

Oro did have the Rashoumon take the grunt of 4T-V2 Naruto's Bijuudama. And Gyuuki's BD hasn't shown as much grunt as the Kyuubi's, as it wasn't able to mortally wound Suigetsu or itself. With Oro around and Jiraiya able to use Kage Bunshins, they could employ a strategy which allows time for Gama Rinshou to be executed. Ay has no counter but Bee maybe able to escape if Gyuki doesn't get ensnared. The latter is hard to determine since Bijuu are well aware of what's happening "outside".

I agree with S2 though, there's no way they can deal with Sandaime Raikage unless Jiraiya figures the secret. But that's unlikely considering their attention would be scattered.
 

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In what universe is physically evading an attack faster than creating a defense right in front of you? Lmao.

-Its faster to use Susanoo than to move.

-Its faster to use a Mokuton Dome than to move.

Not to mention the Raikage didn't even use his Shunshin, he just dashed on foot and the real fodder still had trouble reacting to him.





V1 Ay=3rd Raikage>>>Orochimaru in speed. So yes, he's going to catch him, easily at that. I'm not seeing anything but "Rubber guy blocked his attack" as some kind of argument for Orochimaru outrunning the Raikage.

Or...he saws right through Orochimaru's fodder snakes and takes his head off with his spear.

Just like Kyuubiruto's arm tore through his snake? The same arm that caused giant explosions with a single swing?
 
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