[KG] skorm teaches me iron sand

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*Le me comes towards you with a huge pumpkin in my arms*

I just need to carve this shit.

*Trips and falls over the pumpkin which turns into mush*

Well.. That cancels that out. Goddamnit >_>. So who are you and why do you want to learn iron sand? Why am i covered with pumpkin? Oh right...
 

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well my name is pop i will soon one day become hokage but first i want to learn iron sand because i want to fight the best on the base has to offer and beat them and then everyone will notice me on the base becuase no ones take me seriously
 

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this what i know so far about iro sand its uses in many different ways like the thrid kazekage mold his charka into iron sand as
special ablity but iron sand is made of iron and you can harden it just like gaara do with his sand also make powderout of them and differnt many joints
 

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this what i know so far about iro sand its uses in many different ways like the thrid kazekage mold his charka into iron sand as
special ablity but iron sand is made of iron and you can harden it just like gaara do with his sand also make powderout of them and differnt many joints
Now give me elemental weaknesses and strengths and also what'd happen if iron sand clash with each individual basic element.

gogogogogo!!
 

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Iron sand is weak water and strong against lfighting plus they come into contact with one and another for instance lighting iron sand stronger plus you have to ninja tools for iron sand plus just like gases when sand contact with water it's useless it's just get at as wet and make the sand sogy
 

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Iron sand is weak water and strong against lfighting plus they come into contact with one and another for instance lighting iron sand stronger plus you have to ninja tools for iron sand plus just like gases when sand contact with water it's useless it's just get at as wet and make the sand sogy
Nope, try again and way more detail please.
 

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Iron sand is use by podwer plus you can you ninja tools as irons weponds iron sand is made from magnetism which you can use to mold iron sand plys iron sand is kg which I thank its strong against earth and fire weak against wate and lighting because make the sand wet because its become moist and sogy and hard to use plus lighting will go right threw it because its pierced threw it because nulfy the iron sand.also you can use iron sand with a lot of combo and its can be long well ad defense and well as midrange iron sand basically is a nija tool
 

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You're wrong, have you even read the elemental weaknesses of the iron sand? You sure don't seem to know much about it. No matter you're here to learn.

Iron sand is use by podwer plus you can you ninja tools as irons weponds iron sand is made from magnetism which you can use to mold iron sand
It's a powder yes, that you can gather from the ground or from your gourd. It is true that you can shape ninja tools with iron sand but it's not a unique feature as many of the basic elements have that ability too. Although yes, due to the fact it's iron it is more like you're forming identical ninja weapons.

iron sand is kg which I thank its strong against earth and fire weak against wate and lighting because make the sand wet because its become moist and sogy and hard to use plus lighting will go right threw it because its pierced threw it because nulfy the iron sand
Pretty much everything here is wrong. Iron sand has no elemental strengths. It's neutral to all basic elements except one, and that is raiton which you stated. It's true that it would pierce through iron sand of the same rank. The clashing with water you mix up for regular sand. Our iron sand has no elemental weakness against water since it's heavier that regular sand and it's controlled not by raw chakra, but magnetism chakra. Last time i checked there is no elemental weakness for water over magnetism. No, water is neutral to iron sand. The clashing between earth would be neutral as well because the iron sand could be stopped by the same ranked doton defenses such as doton walls. The sand cannot pierce through the doton walls if they are the same rank as our iron sand jutsu. Fire would heat the iron sand but it would also blow it away if it's the same rank or above. However doton and katon are both neutral against iron sand. Same goes for wind, which would just blow it away, but since our iron sand is controlled by magnetic fields it won't be as easy to blow our iron sand away compared to regular sand. That and the fact that our iron sand is heavier.

also you can use iron sand with a lot of combo and its can be long well ad defense and well as midrange iron sand basically is a nija tool
I don't understand what you're saying here at all. Name some combos you'd use with iron sand in practice instead of theory.

Side note, you need to explain much better and in detail how you think and not just say that iron sand is a ninja tool.
 
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Its would be nice to know how use iron sand in battle im to used using my gaara bio in fights plus you i just want to know how use to iron sand in battle plus i want to know how use it in battle and how you use the justu property
 

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Its would be nice to know how use iron sand in battle im to used using my gaara bio in fights plus you i just want to know how use to iron sand in battle plus i want to know how use it in battle and how you use the justu property
You said like battle three times and i want you to tell me your theories how it would work. Then i correct you and explain if it would work or not, also all sand techniques are basically the same. Only difference between regular sand and iron/gold sand/dust is the density of the medium(which is now iron instead of sand) and the fact we control it with magnetism.
 

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Well if i was using my gaara i would you sand lighting needles to distract them for moment then i would qickly used sand coffin to bind and him contain so he cannot me or i use sand coffin and earth dropping lid tech
 

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This has taken a while. My deepest apologies on all sides.

Now, Iron Sand is iron which has been broken down to sand grain-sized particles. You manipulate these particles with Magnet Release, allowing you to create magnetic fields which magnetize/push/pull the Iron Sand around to create varying effects.

It differs from Gaara's sand in the fact that you aren't manipulating the Iron Sand directly, you're just manipulating it with Magnetic Fields (for example: If you pushed rocks around with Wind Release, you aren't using Doton, you're using Fuuton. Same thing here - you're moving Iron Sand with Jiton (Magnet Release), not moving the Iron Sand itself with whatever chakra that would use).

Because of this difference, it is susceptible to Raiton as Lightning Release will disrupt magnetic fields, and will also be conducted through the Iron Sand so as to magnify its effects. Now, while not having any elemental strengths or weaknesses, as Iron Sand plays evenly with all elements, Raiton is generally most effective against it.

Now, forget about your Gaara biography for a moment. Describe for me how you would ideally use Iron Sand in battle. And if you ever have any questions, feel free to ask me.
 

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i mean i would iron sand in a battle i will dont get this what so ever maybe if you explain to the proper way to use it in a battle then i could understand it a little more i mean you said that lighting disrupt the flow of magnetic flow of things what do you mean i thank magetism can be use in a battle by using different ninja tools and infusing them with my magetism charka and make them even stronger also you can combine them with a wind justu also you can a earth justu to combine with iron sand
 
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i mean i would iron sand in a battle i will dont get this what so ever maybe if you explain to the proper way to use it in a battle then i could understand it a little more i mean you said that lighting disrupt the flow of magnetic flow of things what do you mean i thank magetism can be use in a battle by using different ninja tools and infusing them with my magetism charka and make them even stronger also you can combine them with a wind justu also you can a earth justu to combine with iron sand
@1st Underline: Lightning chakra will be conducted by the metallic Iron Sand, correct? It will flow very easily through it. The raw electrical presence of Raiton will also disrupt the fine control required by the Magnetism Chakra, basically rendering it useless and not only stopping your control over the Iron Sand, but causing it to fall to the ground like regular Iron Sand without chakra. If your Iron Sand hits Lightning, you won't be able to control it and your chakra will be "canceled out".

@2nd Underline: What you're describing by infusing regular weapons with Magnetism Chakra is actually normal Magnetism Release, and you cannot use those techniques with the Iron Sand variant of Magnetism Release. So that is not really something for you to be concerned about.

Using Iron Sand in battle is different than using regular Sand in battle in that Iron Sand is made to be molded into shapes. Gaara's Sand is to be used fluidly, for the most part, using only a few techniques to form shapes. Iron Sand is used to form shapes, most commonly spikes, which you then "push" and "pull" around with your Magnetism Release (the shapes being held together with Magnetism as well). It's used very similarly to Earth Release in battle, and you'll see just how similar they are once we get into the techniques.

Now, do you have any questions?
 

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oh so you just use iron to form differnt shapes i get it now and when my iron sand charka hits lighting it be hard to control i get it because the raw density of lighting can over flow my charka network in control of my iron sand plus now i get it now but how do you use iron sand in a battle? pluse what do you when you facing a person that loves to use lighting while im using my iron sand in battle
 

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oh so you just use iron to form differnt shapes i get it now and when my iron sand charka hits lighting it be hard to control i get it because the raw density of lighting can over flow my charka network in control of my iron sand plus now i get it now but how do you use iron sand in a battle? pluse what do you when you facing a person that loves to use lighting while im using my iron sand in battle
Some good questions. In battle, Iron Sand is primarily used similarly to Earth Release - you form shapes that are meant to either attack the opponent, defend from attacks, or otherwise supplement you in some way. However, these shapes are not rooted in the ground, as are most Earth techniques, but rather can "float" in a magnetic field you create with your chakra, and can fly around on your command to reposition themselves and increase your attacking ability.

As for lightning, you seem to understand what happens, though the why is fuzzy. It doesn't necessarily disrupt your chakra, but what your chakra becomes (for example, water doesn't put out "chakra", but it puts out fire, which is something you've turned your chakra into. Same concept - lightning doesn't disrupt your chakra, but it does disrupt the magnetic field your chakra turned into). But still, you seem to understand what happens when Iron Sand and Lightning mix.

If you're facing a person who uses lightning a lot, and you are dead-set on using Iron Sand, perhaps the best things to do are as follows:
  1. Never use long-ranged Iron Sand techniques that connect to you. Lightning will not only turn the object you've turned the Iron Sand into down to dust (literal iron sand), but it will be conducted down the structure and electrocute you.
  2. Attack from multiple angles. The few lightning techniques that can strike out omnidirectionally (every direction) only do so in a short range, so if you're standing a decent range away you should be fine as they counter.
  3. Don't use defensive Iron Sand moves. If your opponent uses lightning repeatedly, there are better defenses than Iron Sand as the lightning could easily pierce through, being conducted throughout the iron so as to both strike you and destroy your defense.
  4. Combine it with wind. A very simple concept, if you were to send out a burst of wind before you use your Iron Sand attacks, the lightning wouldn't be able to get past to disrupt your technique.
Okay, so perhaps you'll get a better understanding if we move onto some techniques.
(Jiton: Satetsu No Jutsu) - Magnetism Release: Iron Sand Technique
Rank: D
Type: Supplementary/Attack/Defense
Range: Short-Mid
Chakra cost: 10
Damage Points: 20
Description: The user creates small weapons and defenses out of iron sand. The sand can be released from sand in the users possession or from the ground nearby.
A very simple jutsu, this allows you to draw Iron Sand either from a pouch you have, or from the environment (there's a lot more out there than you think there is) in order to form small weapons or defenses - a kunai, a fist-sized ball, a shield that you could wear on your arm, etc. Now, with this technique your magnetism only allows the Iron Sand to stick together, and won't cause it to float. The basics behind this technique, and why it's useful, is that you could create a small spike of Iron Sand on the ground as your opponent is moving, impaling their foot and causing pain. You could also create a quick shield to defend last-second against an attack. Or, if you have the customs, you could have a technique that later takes advantage of objects made of Iron Sand, and does something with them, in which case it may be better to use an Iron Sand kunai instead of a normal kunai.

So, why don't you perform the technique, while asking me any questions you may still have, and then tell me some drawbacks or general disadvantages this technique could have.
 

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i foucus my iron sand charka then i form some small amount of charka then form weponds to defend me then i foucs a little bit more of iron sand charka to send the weponds around me to attack from different amout of angles
 

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So, you can't make the weapons fly with this technique.

I also asked for some drawbacks to the technique, so why don't you explain some of the disadvantages of this jutsu?
 
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