[Game] SK-Tower Of God! The Great War!!! #28

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Was there any good reason for them to keep tunneling and pushing Toujo if you think Kyte and Oreki have TMI where they knew Poison is scum and Toujo is town? Was there any benefit of doing that?


As for Oreki,

Last time I'm doing that as scum I got suspected and killed at night by Vig. Because I avoided to lynch my team mate eventhough they're in my PoE but lynched town instead.
I guess I'm willing to accept this as a possibility only because it feels... really odd that mafia would push that hard knowing it would only bring them under major suspicion if they were successful in lynching Toujo, and they ended up being town

The thing is though I still don't understand what set off Toujo suspicion in the first place, idk if im missing something
 
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Alright, I suppose I'll try to reason with your terrible logic. Let's assume that the fact that Poison and Toujo were going against each all D1 and were the two leading wagons doesn't somehow put Ratchet on our town list. Why on earth would he be the first candidate to be lynched after Poison? Why are you ignoring all the shenanigans that happened near EOD and how there seemed to be a resistance and a hard counter-wagon to Poison's lynch?
How long have you played mafia? Why you didn't play this game using experience+logic? Why only used logic? I have seen many towns showing a resistance to followed other player's voting choice. For the reason;

  1. They are uninformed
  2. They believe this player is a scum more than that player.
  3. They believe/see scum sign in this player is much stronger.
  4. Players that voted Poison didn't give them good enough reason why Poison is scum.
 

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Alright, I suppose I'll try to reason with your terrible logic. Let's assume that the fact that Poison and Toujo were going against each all D1 and were the two leading wagons doesn't somehow put Ratchet on our town list. Why on earth would he be the first candidate to be lynched after Poison? Why are you ignoring all the shenanigans that happened near EOD and how there seemed to be a resistance and a hard counter-wagon to Poison's lynch?
And Poison never goes hard on Toujo and same with Toujo.
 

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wit the logic of the rules I laid out when bolding yes. But being realistic I'm wrong. I should count you.
I'm going to give you a chance to read the thread, gather up your thoughts, and come out better. Because if you're scum, ask your scummates what I did to Poison last day phase and think about if you really want to play poorly this phase.
 

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How long have you played mafia? Why you didn't play this game using experience+logic? Why only used logic? I have seen many towns showing a resistance to followed other player's voting choice. For the reason;

  1. They are uninformed
  2. They believe this player is a scum more than that player.
  3. They believe/see scum sign in this player is much stronger.
  4. Players that voted Poison didn't give them good enough reason why Poison is scum.
I have to say this is where this conversation ends. I'm not going to entertain the idea of going after Ratchet when his wagon was up against a scum wagon in D1. If we get to a point where there are only a few players left, and scum have somehow evaded being lynched, then everyone goes back on the table. But as of now, Ratchet needs to be firmly off of it until the numbers dwindle (assuming scum are still alive by then). At some point, you're going to have to start giving players the benefit of the doubt and putting them at the back of the bus in order to go after other people.

So let's switch topics. WHY do you think Ratchet is the best lynch this phase? Who else do you suspect?
 

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Hey all, I noticed if you look at the voting history, people who originally or had poison as their second vote should be the least lickly to be scum. People @bold but I'm excluding people who hardly voted.
My logic here being that mafia doesn't have much of a need to vote poison early in the game compared to later in the game. It makes little sense to vote a team mate when there is no obligation to. Catch my drift?
Did you play in Chief Alpha's game?
 

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You realize you missed an entire day and now you're coming into the game and are refusing to read what you've missed. Either you're a shit player or your scummates have filled you in. Which one is it?
Neither. Instead of focusing on my lack of knowledge how about you go on play the game as if I do have the knowledge. My short comings are not your problem, if I'm unable to hold a convo because you believe I haven't read up (which I doubt will be a problem) then use that as evidence to incriminate me. We cool?
 

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I have to say this is where this conversation ends. I'm not going to entertain the idea of going after Ratchet when his wagon was up against a scum wagon in D1. If we get to a point where there are only a few players left, and scum have somehow evaded being lynched, then everyone goes back on the table. But as of now, Ratchet needs to be firmly off of it until the numbers dwindle (assuming scum are still alive by then). At some point, you're going to have to start giving players the benefit of the doubt and putting them at the back of the bus in order to go after other people.

So let's switch topics. WHY do you think Ratchet is the best lynch this phase? Who else do you suspect?
@bold
You want us to change topic but you still asking my opinion on Ratchet???

We should look at Aester, AL/Red.

But Im GTG now. I will elaborate about this when I returne back.
 

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If you already forgot, SoulKiller(Scum) and Hammock(Scum) lynched TSQ(Scum) inside the 1DP.

Can you give me a comment about this. Because there's no definite rule for scum. If they think they can get town credit from what they are doing they going to try it.
If I remember correctly they didn't vote TSQ at the beginning or early on in the dp correct? Cause if they did, that invalidates my entire point. But if they didn't my point still stands.
 

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Neither. Instead of focusing on my lack of knowledge how about you go on play the game as if I do have the knowledge. My short comings are not your problem, if I'm unable to hold a convo because you believe I haven't read up (which I doubt will be a problem) then use that as evidence to incriminate me. We cool?
No, we aren't cool. When I see something scummy, I'm going to call it out, and you've done nothing to defend yourself against it. If you're town, you have no reason to be this misinformed about the ongoings of the game as well as to be this standoffish.

Why did you choose to do an iso on Al of all people and then proceed to do nothing else last day phase?
 

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@bold
You want us to change topic but you still asking my opinion on Ratchet???

We should look at Aester, AL/Red.

But Im GTG now. I will elaborate about this when I returne back.
No, our conservation was about why lynching Ratchet is a bad idea. Now I'm asking you for your case against him. Those are two different things, yeah?
 
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for clarification when she said "even when we" it means her and the army with her who were at the head quarters, by army i mean the fodder solders. People need to read the write up in order lol, every write up is a continuation to the story.
*this post isn't mean for SK*
Ok

But if Poison had already lead the vote at that time before that event happened that action was proven futile if the intention was to save Poison. Let say commander no.1 who done that(because they aren't not inside the Write up), his action was useless because it only strengthen the belief of town that Poison is scum.
 
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