[Game] SK-Tower Of God! The Great War!!! #28

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I said he seemed scum not is scum, which have different meanings. And was not supposed to be serious because there was nothing much to go on at that time.
Exactly that's my point that was not serious at all, but you actually voted him a little later and made a tiny case against him.
Lol I didn't say "all games he was Mafia" i said in all game's I played with him he was Mafia. Which was like two games.
Yes, I meant all the games you played with him he was all mafia. I wonder how you can then differentiate whether his posts are unnecessarily worded and scummy than when he is town? Cause you did not play or saw him town, did you?
 

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Exactly that's my point that was not serious at all, but you actually voted him a little later and made a tiny case against him.
Hey you vote for people sometimes and see how they react, and honestly I found his reaction really bad, but no one else thought so. That's why I still think he is scum.
Yes, I meant all the games you played with him he was all mafia. I wonder how you can then differentiate whether his posts are unnecessarily worded and scummy than when he is town? Cause you did not play or saw him town, did you?
Lol that's Why it's called a theory and not fact. If he flips scum that my theory would be proven correct.
 

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Hey you vote for people sometimes and see how they react, and honestly I found his reaction really bad, but no one else thought so. That's why I still think he is scum.

Lol that's Why it's called a theory and not fact. If he flips scum that my theory would be proven correct.
If you think his reaction was bad, why are you not pushing him now? And I think if you find a reaction bad there's more possibility then the theory you have about someone else you think is posting unusual but for you it is supposed to be his mafia game usual to you.
 

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Toujo- thanks to him now know every fallacy that exists, unless you got more @Toujo ? It's really an eye closure thanks for that. At this point I would Lynch him just to stop reading about fallacies.
There are so many more fallacies that exist I could fill the whole thread with them.
 

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If you think his reaction was bad, why are you not pushing him now? And I think if you find a reaction bad there's more possibility then the theory you have about someone else you think is posting unusual but for you it is supposed to be his mafia game usual to you.
Were did I say it was his usual mafia play? I feel toujo is bigger threat that's why I would rather have him lynched then Aether. Because he is very good player and he is very hard to read and because I played with him as Mafia I know how good he is at pocketing town. And he seems to have done it already, but you know I can also be very wrong but that's how it goes sometimes.
 

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Were did I say it was his usual mafia play? I feel toujo is bigger threat that's why I would rather have him lynched then Aether. Because he is very good player and he is very hard to read and because I played with him as Mafia I know how good he is at pocketing town. And he seems to have done it already, but you know I can also be very wrong but that's how it goes sometimes.
LOL

This post, just... God, this post. "I would rather lynch Ratchet because he's hard to read, and he's a bigger threat". How is this a good reason to lynch someone? Is this the standard you guys have here? Let's be clear here. This is not about me potentially being scum. It's about getting rid of what you don't like to deal with.

No, I've seen enough. Hopefully I get some time to go through Poison myself today, but otherwise our lynch should be between them and this.

Vote Lynch Ryu Kishi
 
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LOL

This post, just... God, this post. "I would rather lynch Ratchet because he's hard to read, and he's a bigger threat". How is this a good reason to lynch someone? Is this the standard you guys have here? Let's be clear here. This is not about me potentially being scum. It's about getting rid of what you don't like to deal with.

No, I've seen enough. Hopefully I get some time to go through Poison myself today, but otherwise our lynch should be between them and this.

Vote Lynch Ryu Kishi
Yes and that is why I have pointed out your over explanations and useless information as indicator of your alignment.
 

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This post, just... God, this post. "I would rather lynch Ratchet because he's hard to read, and he's a bigger threat". How is this a good reason to lynch someone? Is this the standard you guys have here? Let's be clear here. This is not about me potentially being scum. It's about getting rid of what you don't like to deal with.

No, I've seen enough. Hopefully I get some time to go through Poison myself today, but otherwise our lynch should be between them and this.

Vote Lynch Ryu Kishi
So if Ryu Flipped Scum that means Poison is cleared, No?
 

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Urgh, I'll just rewrite it

So my scum hunting philosophy is to identify fallacies within the arguments people put forward. I first point out these fallacies, and explain why it is a fallacy. This is to show the player that they are using that fallacy, as it's not impossible for a player to employ a fallacy without knowing that they are using a fallacy. The reason I'm focusing on fallacies is because scum are, at some point or other, forced to use them, to make arguments that look like they're logically sound but actually or not. If they didn't, they either wouldn't be scumhunting, or their scumhunting would eventually lead the town to them or their partners.

The scum finding part of this comes next. If I see a player using the same fallacies later on, after being told about them, or refuse to concede that their point is not supported with what they currently have, then we have scum behaviour. Because they can no longer hide behind ignorance, and scum typically don't want to concede ground lest it reflect poorly on them.

This is not the only way I scumhunt, I use reactions and arguments in response to me to develop a read, but this is the crutch behind my scumhunting, and the form that is most clearly visable within the thread.

^Given the above, I've no idea how you can say I'm not scumhunting. So does this cause you to reconsider your position, or are you going to defend the claim you made?
People commonly fall into fallacies, with false(?) intentions of being righteous, too. Especially in a setting where many players are relatively inexperienced, having misleading meta's, and with English as a potential barrier in communication.

So, unless you provide evidence of malicious implications of the fallacies that input to the wolves’ best interest, your process is labeling is but unnecessarily exploiting and potentially framing, that you are simply employing to your most convenience. Which you’ve said in your own words:

There are so many more fallacies that exist I could fill the whole thread with them.
 
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