[Game] SK-Tower Of God! The Great War!!! #28

[Kyte_]

let me ask all of you a question.. have any of you isoed red??

if yes than can you explain why is her only focus me and no one else??

I suppose I can tell you that I lightly suspect All Red, but I'm planning to let her under the radar this phase. Not because she's only focused on you, no. It's understandable for someone with few late entries in the thread to ISO a major suspects, you're also not a suitable candidate to throw under the bus early on by the wolves, neither do I find your posts that tempting for scum to ride over.

The reason I suspect her is simply because she's written about you in a shady context, and almost apparently concludes you're scum in her own words, yet she's hesitant to cast a vote on you. I'm not a fan of this act of advocating the lynch of a very likely candidate without wanting to get her hands dirty.

Not an alignment-read, just a thought, if you will.

 

[Michelle]

Wow, please tell me Michelle did not log off before I delivered this iso.

I am sorry, i read it just now, i was without internet and/or possibility to play because of my family trip.

I read it now and i agree with it.
I need to see how Alice and the thread reacted to it

 

[Kyte_]

On a side note @AL you've been so low on energy in your posts, and almost wanted to forfeit the game earlier. Why is that.?! Are you simply not motivated?

You've supposedly crossed paths with this Togu guy for many years now, maybe you should catch on some of his debating skills, no offense meant.

 

[XTMF]

Were did I say it was his usual mafia play? I feel toujo is bigger threat that's why I would rather have him lynched then Aether. Because he is very good player and he is very hard to read and because I played with him as Mafia I know how good he is at pocketing town. And he seems to have done it already, but you know I can also be very wrong but that's how it goes sometimes.

Ryu, this isn't a good post; you don't lynch someone because they're a good player and could be a threat if they rand wolf.

 

[XTMF]

LOL

This post, just... God, this post. "I would rather lynch Ratchet because he's hard to read, and he's a bigger threat". How is this a good reason to lynch someone? Is this the standard you guys have here? Let's be clear here. This is not about me potentially being scum. It's about getting rid of what you don't like to deal with.

No, I've seen enough. Hopefully I get some time to go through Poison myself today, but otherwise our lynch should be between them and this.

Vote Lynch Ryu Kishi

Well, this was literally one post after Ryu's. Didn't read it before making my comment.

 

[AL_sama]

this are the laziest reads about me that I have ever read, except some reads Ryu made about me
you just put yourself on that lazy level

ok but you're scum

you didn't even try to deny any of my points boy

 

[XTMF]

People commonly fall into fallacies, with false(?) intentions of being righteous, too. Especially in a setting where many players are relatively inexperienced, having misleading meta's, and with English as a potential barrier in communication.

So, unless you provide evidence of malicious implications of the fallacies that input to the wolves’ best interest, your process is labeling is but unnecessarily exploiting and potentially framing, that you are simply employing to your most convenience. Which you’ve said in your own words:

I like this post from Kyte. While I don't want to lynch Ratchet this phase, I do agree that Ratchet's deployment of logical fallacies seem to be a tactic to shoot down ideas and arguments. I mean, the only fallacy that I know is the Strawman, but if I wrote a big case and Ratchet started telling me I was using all the fallacies, I'd be like 'what the ****' as well. A lot of the shit he's pulling out seem to be from debate class, not Mafia class.

 

[XTMF]

Why can't I use the f word on this site?

 

[Ryu Kishi]

Ryu, this isn't a good post; you don't lynch someone because they're a good player and could be a threat if they rand wolf.

I'm not lynching him because he is good player but because I think he is mafia, but because he is a good player makes it very difficult to catch him.

 

[Ryu Kishi]

Why can't I use the f word on this site?

Because swearing is bad for your health.

 

[XTMF]

this are the laziest reads about me that I have ever read, except some reads Ryu made about me
you just put yourself on that lazy level

I don't know if Al is right, but I felt like his thought process on your tells was legit.

 

[Kyte_]

Why can't I use the f word on this site?

Not even the word: ass

Could you guess what word was that? It was a-s-s. The admins took it a little to the extreme if you ask me.

 

[XTMF]

Not even the word: ass

Could you guess what word was that? It was a-s-s. The admins took it a little to the extreme if you ask me.

I see your ass, though.

 

[Kyte_]

whelp. This is embarrassing. I could swear the word ass was censored.

 

[XTMF]

I am sorry, i read it just now, i was without internet and/or possibility to play because of my family trip.

I read it now and i agree with it.
I need to see how Alice and the thread reacted to it

The biggest thing I want her to respond to is how she went from reading Luk town to voting for him. I want to see the posts and thought process there.

 

[AL_sama]

I suppose I can tell you that I lightly suspect All Red, but I'm planning to let her under the radar this phase. Not because she's only focused on you, no. It's understandable for someone with few late entries in the thread to ISO a major suspects, you're also not a suitable candidate to throw under the bus early on by the wolves, neither do I find your posts that tempting for scum to ride over.

The reason I suspect her is simply because she's written about you in a shady context, and almost apparently concludes you're scum in her own words, yet she's hesitant to cast a vote on you. I'm not a fan of this act of advocating the lynch of a very likely candidate without wanting to get her hands dirty.

Not an alignment-read, just a thought, if you will.

the fact that her sole focus is me and she isn't voting me it clearly shows that she is unwilling for some reason.... can you guess what it might be???

yes my reads for her are almost same as you

On a side note @AL you've been so low on energy in your posts, and almost wanted to forfeit the game earlier. Why is that.?! Are you simply not motivated?

You've supposedly crossed paths with this Togu guy for many years now, maybe you should catch on some of his debating skills, no offense meant.

I m not low on energy I m just taking a different approach

I m trying my best to form reads on toujo but just like always its quite hard to do

 

[Ansatsuken]

less fluff more work

I think this statement is coming from town. That's what I feel.

quite the pick

It's very understandable. Who is going for Toujo actually pretty daring especially in D1. So that kind of response from AL is expected.

meta for what??

Haha...poison made AL confused.

if you want a blind list than sure I can give one

btw keep going with your fluffs I wanna see where it ends up

Tbh I can see AL get annoyed by that request. Yeah I understand, sometimes Michelle irritated me with her act.

that looked like a joke to me

why would you assume she is hinting??

I think this post is coming from town mindset. I can feel serious mocking tone thrown towards Michelle.

this is a nice post but let me ask you a question

will this post help in catching scums??

Why I felt like AL playing in anti annoying behavior mode??

@Michelle what do you think of imp's long post??

Good move.

mind explaining how exactly??

Good request.

I see

to me it seemed like a bit forced and CWAC but of for now

AL stop his follow up on Imp here. If he's scum with agenda I think he gonna make the read a big deal.

you change it every game lol

I think only town gonna address this openly while scum prefer to keep their team's mate not known to many. That if AL and Toujo are scum buddy. I'm yet to met with scum that talking/explaining their partner's META. If I'm wrong I have learned something from this game.

yes but whats the point of voting someone who hasn't posted yer??

unless it was to get reactions from others

from what I remember you used to change every game

Logical post.

really senpai??

he is literally using my words as basis

is this how being confident works??

So using people's words means not confident?

Can you elaborate on this?

I do believe there is enough but ok lol

Seems he feels relieve by that read. Like he prayed to God don't make Michelle scum reading him. Yeah Maybe because Michelle didn't scum read him lol. I have mix feeling for this post.

toujo questioned me an it was a proper question but than kyte questioned toujo making it look like toujo's question wasn't proper

it felt like TMI and an attempt of pocketing to me

mich was fluffing with luk and poison so I thought she was going somewhere with this but then she stopped without any follow ups

I have one question, what do you think about Kyte right now?

The guy who you think trying to Pocket you had Toujo as scum.

And also your current opinion on Toujo.

something a townie should say??

Mich ask yourself are you really scum hunting??

You also should trying to ask yourself are you really scum hunting too?

Because I didn't see any effort from you.

As for me I'm using ISO for Town hunting and scum hunting.

perhaps yes I'll

why not go by POE then??

no I m fluffing for fluff's sale xS

What actually I'm reading here?

makes sense

time has noting to do with POE

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process of elimination

Quite surprise someone like XTMF don't know what's PoE

you
imp
poison
luk
kyte

its my POE

Ok let we see further.

I m going by which lynch will provide more info

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its POE but also provides info

Are you insane or what? Are there any other reason why you play like this?

iso me and you'll see my scum reads which are basically almost the same

Yeah I can see you've suspicion on numbers of people but what kind of play you're using here lynching people that you think can provide more information. That means your goal in DP1 is not looking for scum and lynch scum. So you going to tolerate mislynch?

since my reads were the same I told her to iso me I'll be honest I m lazy

I didn't bother since nothing changed

So you are playing as stubborn town, also you can be not a risk taking scum by playing like this.

But when looking at the real situation where vote was piling up on you before people retracted their vote I doubt my scum idea is true hahaha...

never seen mich do this but power wolfing is a thing

@Rej give me a rainbow

Yes I can agree with that.

is that new??

@Michelle I stated that I've seen you power wolfing but was answering ansa that it might be possible

@Toujo I m not avoiding anything but might've missed your question

@Tigerrr in the woods yes I don't type big

@Imperfection my posts are short but with content so whats your point??

Can you explain to me the bold part, is that a typo or real statement? Because you've said different things before;

This,

never seen mich do this but power wolfing is a thing

@Rej give me a rainbow

And this,

did I say you're power wolfing??

go for it then

how about a bet??

exactly no??

A bet? About what?

deal mich'

tbh this post yours changed my reads on you a bit but I m not sure

This looks interesting. (In the previous game) I remember I offered a betting to Naomi and Poison is scum/town is the subject of betting.

It possible that both of you're town.

come out boy

votelynch @Rej

But where's Rej in your PoE? Tell me why Rej?

if it was me 2 years ago than yeah I'd do that but not now lol

I'll admit tho that I can't win against him in a debate

Don't debate but look at how he hunting scum. Find the oddness.

oh you think I m town reading him??

don't get the wrong impression cause I m null on him

he is the type that I never trust unless he is confirmed

Noted

if its logical than you should push me too

I was about to get back to those who are pushing me but nah I changed my mind I won't defend myself at all

my lynch will provide good chunk of info to catch scum

@Houtarou no idea if its cause of your mood or what but you're being odd some of your posts gives town vibes some don't and oddly enough you aren't really trying to push anyone and being passive

I m in between null and scum reading you

I don't see many Information you can provide to us if you get lynched. If you're scum your lynch could expose Toujo as you're avoiding to make contact with him and he also never seriously looking at you. But if you're town who could be Scum? I don't think it's Michelle as she have already gave you enough room to prove that you're not Scum. Lukundo? Maybe. Imp? Not even voting you. Beebot? Could be.

I know what I m doing

@Just_Red answer this you only isoed me why is that the case?? I mean you even said that you won't vote me unless I m the leading wagon

it implies that I m nor your strongest read yet you only isoed me why is that??

So what's your opinion on Red?

thanks I'll get to that in a bit but I've no idea what do you wnna know

I m the leading lynch wagon

whats your opinion on that??

I really hate this. You're acting like a child with lots of excuses.

boy I m clear on your style than anyone else in here

you're trying to be lowkey which I can let go

you're mulling on giving any sort of reads = scum rrej sign

you're being unable to read others = big fat lie cause you're good at reading

you avoided giving reads on me as far as possible and than changed them quite quickly = another scum rej sign

your voting RGK isn't something you'd do as town cause its clearly an easy pick

in short you're scum boy

What's your opinion on his read/iso on you?

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Tbh I have mix feeling on AL. In some parts I feel like he's town but large part inside this ISO really made me question the actual alignment of AL. It's not that hard to scum leaning AL because he's too reserved with his thought, he seemed refraining from CWAC activity.

But I think some townie elements from his posts and certain situation out weight his scummy elements.

So I give AL slight Town read for now.

 

[Rej]

I don't know if Al is right, but I felt like his thought process on your tells was legit.

it wasn't he is completely off about me and he contradicted himself by saying he wasn't defensive

ok but you're scum

you didn't even try to deny any of my points boy

because it didn't convince me, it came out of nowhere brat, because you looked for an escape out of your wagon, that on the one hand could be a scumtell itself

On a side note @AL you've been so low on energy in your posts, and almost wanted to forfeit the game earlier. Why is that.?! Are you simply not motivated?

he is reliefed that he isn't wagonized anymore, he probably was afraid of getting lynched because then wolf chat would be disappointed kappa

 

[Toujo]

Vote Count

 

[Rej]

But where's Rej in your PoE? Tell me why Rej?

I bet because he thinks that I am an easy lynch because it was the same Imperfection stated when he came in. So I have the reputation as "easy mislynch" or "alternative wagon".
That is hilarious, my only explanation for why AL snaps at me.