[Game] SK-Tower Of God! The Great War!!! #28
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Because I was trying to figure out where the hidden wolf was.
I agree.
The inconsistencies are there and I just wanted to add the interaction he had with me and Tigerr this phase..
He hasn't posted more about the little "activity" he made me, tigerr and rej do.
TheLukundo
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I've addressed this multiple times:
Toujo was a stronger townread than Houtarou at that time. It's actually really obvious from that list.
This is one of several points in your post where you clearly are not reading my posts and taking stuff out of context. I was believing you town due to interactions with Beeboat. I think you were TMI'd. But you're doing the same misrepresentation that Houtarou did.
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Vote Tally:
X : Toujo
Osieorb18 : Just_Red > Ryu Kishi
Ryu Kishi : Just_Red > Toujo
Rej : Toujo
Ansa : Touji
Tiggerrr in the woods : Toujo
Toujo : Rej > Ryu Kishi
Aether : Toujo
Imperfection : Toujo
Vote Count:
Toujo x7
Ryu Kishi x2
Countdown to DP4 (about 3 hours left for DP4) :
Players :
1- @Toujo
2- @Imperfection
3- @Just_Red
6- @Tigerrr in the woods
7- @Rej
8- @Ryu Kishi
9- @Ansatsuken
11- @TheLukundo
13- @Aether9
14 - @AL_sama
15 @osieorb18
16 - @-PK-
20- @XTMF
X : Toujo
Osieorb18 : Just_Red > Ryu Kishi
Ryu Kishi : Just_Red > Toujo
Rej : Toujo
Ansa : Touji
Tiggerrr in the woods : Toujo
Toujo : Rej > Ryu Kishi
Aether : Toujo
Imperfection : Toujo
Vote Count:
Toujo x7
Ryu Kishi x2
Countdown to DP4 (about 3 hours left for DP4) :
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Players :
1- @Toujo
2- @Imperfection
3- @Just_Red
6- @Tigerrr in the woods
7- @Rej
8- @Ryu Kishi
9- @Ansatsuken
11- @TheLukundo
13- @Aether9
14 - @AL_sama
15 @osieorb18
16 - @-PK-
20- @XTMF
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I thought Osie having Hou as their strongest town-read, to voting them out, didn't make a lot of sense. When that happened, I actually thought that maybe Hou-Osie was a reality and that Osie was trying to bus out Hou.
so thats the only flaw you find in my post? Because who cares if toujo was your strongest read at that time, you read both of them as your strongest town read, and my point wasnt to say that you were town reading him more than Toujo, its the fact you put both of them in a separate tier of town reads compared to others.
then correct me where I am not reading your posts, because I've literally ISOd you.
So by flavour, we have:
1. 25th Baam - Kyte_
2. Rak - Michelle
3. Cha - Elmage
4. Baylord Paul
5. Baylord Doom
6. Baylord Yama
7. Khun
8. Dowon
9. Evankhell - Houtarou
10.
11.
12.
13.
Jahad team includes/is Mafia???:
1. HQ Solder (Soldier?)
2. Princess Maschenny Jahad
3. Squadron Commander 1
4. Squadron Commander 2 (Po Bidau Lyborick Khun) - Poison
5. Squadron Commander 3 (Lo Po Bia Yasartcha) - Beeboat
Neutral:
1. White
2. Phonsekal Laure - Alice in Noodleland (Survivor)
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Assuming there isn't some other neutral in the game or a disproportionately large number of mafia, we have:
3 Baylords + Khun + Dowon + 4 others = 9 Town
vs
3 Mafia
vs
1 Neutral Evil
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Assuming effectively 1 kill per night and no more kills that will hit mafia... There's between 1-2 miselims to work with depending on White's role. We should be assuming the worst and looking at 5 player PoEs, max.
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Readlist:
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Definitely Town:
Elmage - TOWN
Houtarou - TOWN
Kyte_ - TOWN
Michelle - TOWN
Osieorb18 - TOWN
Probably Town:
Aether9 - Good look in their interactions with beeboat. TMI'd town.
Ansatsuken - Still my strongest townread. I'm not going to explain this one since the read is not easy to phrase in English, but I'm at about 90% certainty that Ansa is town.
Imperfection - Their ISO of beeboat looking for interactions feels solid. I liked their response to me last day phase too.
Tigerrr - TMI's by Poison? Also townie in their D3 posts.
XTMF- Case on Houtarou felt very sleuthy and legit. I could see where they were coming from. Also Poison may TMI him as town.
Somewhat Townie:
AL_sama - Outrage on Day 1 looks pretty good, and possibly a bit of TMI from Poison/beeboat.
Toujo - Townlean due to Beeboat and Poison interactions, and some townie-looking frustration throughout the game. I'm not thrilled with beeboat being the one to suggest that they are town, and I'd be willing to reconsider here, but I'm not convinced enough to elim as of yet.
Somewhat Scummy:
Just_Red - Just hasn't contributed enough, and Beeboat "I'm going to ISO, well maybe I won't" interaction is bad.
Very Scummy:
Ryu Kishi - No progression, wolfy pop-ins, low activity.
Definitely Scum:
Alice in Noodleland - NEUTRAL SURVIVOR
Beeboat - MAFIA
Poison chan - MAFIA
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Who's Left:
-PK-
Rej
TheLukundo
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I don't think Rej is scum due to tone on D2-D3 and a post in D1 in which his PoE was just the right amount of sensible. Not all the way there, but most of the way there to what I'm seeing.
Lukundo is slightly on the scummy side from interactions and CWAC.
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That leaves PK. Based on my earlier looks at them and ISO dive after ISO dive, PK has a degree of the same pattern as Lukundo.
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POE:
Ryu Kishi > Just_Red > TheLukundo > -PK- >>> AL/Toujo >>> Everyone else.
1. 25th Baam - Kyte_
2. Rak - Michelle
3. Cha - Elmage
4. Baylord Paul
5. Baylord Doom
6. Baylord Yama
7. Khun
8. Dowon
9. Evankhell - Houtarou
10.
11.
12.
13.
Jahad team includes/is Mafia???:
1. HQ Solder (Soldier?)
2. Princess Maschenny Jahad
3. Squadron Commander 1
4. Squadron Commander 2 (Po Bidau Lyborick Khun) - Poison
5. Squadron Commander 3 (Lo Po Bia Yasartcha) - Beeboat
Neutral:
1. White
2. Phonsekal Laure - Alice in Noodleland (Survivor)
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Assuming there isn't some other neutral in the game or a disproportionately large number of mafia, we have:
3 Baylords + Khun + Dowon + 4 others = 9 Town
vs
3 Mafia
vs
1 Neutral Evil
%%%%%
%%%%%
Assuming effectively 1 kill per night and no more kills that will hit mafia... There's between 1-2 miselims to work with depending on White's role. We should be assuming the worst and looking at 5 player PoEs, max.
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Readlist:
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Definitely Town:
Elmage - TOWN
Houtarou - TOWN
Kyte_ - TOWN
Michelle - TOWN
Osieorb18 - TOWN
Probably Town:
Aether9 - Good look in their interactions with beeboat. TMI'd town.
Ansatsuken - Still my strongest townread. I'm not going to explain this one since the read is not easy to phrase in English, but I'm at about 90% certainty that Ansa is town.
Imperfection - Their ISO of beeboat looking for interactions feels solid. I liked their response to me last day phase too.
Tigerrr - TMI's by Poison? Also townie in their D3 posts.
XTMF- Case on Houtarou felt very sleuthy and legit. I could see where they were coming from. Also Poison may TMI him as town.
Somewhat Townie:
AL_sama - Outrage on Day 1 looks pretty good, and possibly a bit of TMI from Poison/beeboat.
Toujo - Townlean due to Beeboat and Poison interactions, and some townie-looking frustration throughout the game. I'm not thrilled with beeboat being the one to suggest that they are town, and I'd be willing to reconsider here, but I'm not convinced enough to elim as of yet.
Somewhat Scummy:
Just_Red - Just hasn't contributed enough, and Beeboat "I'm going to ISO, well maybe I won't" interaction is bad.
Very Scummy:
Ryu Kishi - No progression, wolfy pop-ins, low activity.
Definitely Scum:
Alice in Noodleland - NEUTRAL SURVIVOR
Beeboat - MAFIA
Poison chan - MAFIA
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Who's Left:
-PK-
Rej
TheLukundo
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I don't think Rej is scum due to tone on D2-D3 and a post in D1 in which his PoE was just the right amount of sensible. Not all the way there, but most of the way there to what I'm seeing.
Lukundo is slightly on the scummy side from interactions and CWAC.
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That leaves PK. Based on my earlier looks at them and ISO dive after ISO dive, PK has a degree of the same pattern as Lukundo.
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POE:
Ryu Kishi > Just_Red > TheLukundo > -PK- >>> AL/Toujo >>> Everyone else.
I had no strong reads at that time, not even Toujo, TBH. I had been in the game for about an hour and a half and had not had any chance to form strong reads on anyone. The Toujo/Kyte V/V read was the strongest thing I had and I've started to doubt that now because it was from Beeboat.
Then the night phase happened and the game was turned upside-down for me as that readlist was before I even realized the extent of "No claiming" and "The flavour will have the game solution embedded in it."
Since then I've had to rewrite every single one of my posts to avoid OGI. I've been hyper-conscious about that. And it's made this game incredibly frustrating.