[Game] SK - League Of Legends Mafia Game Thread! Fight Or Be Forgotten!! #15
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see my above reply to Michelle for the secret vote theory
I dont think my vote didnt count
I might have to recheck the final D1 tally, see if your Kyte_1 vote was actually counted or not
your moth over michelle argument makes no sense
the bear flamer could be mafia, stumping moth makes no sense as moth was voting town PK at the time. Michelle was voting someone else when the bears came, possibly a mafia?
the bear flamer could be town, stumping players who they thought were mafia. Some players read moth as mafia, some players read Michelle as mafia. The question then is, why trigger this effect at this time? why not wait for later in the game? the bear tamer was probably threatened with lynch, or feared to be NKed. IF michelle was on alice at the time, that might explain it (to do: was that the vote? was alice scumreading michelle?), because then maybe alice sent the bears
or poison had stolen the bear ability from alice and sent it?
But considering this WIFOM logic is
Right, I said it's moth over Michelle based on my intuition, but it could be Michelle.
Oh my god. Just what on earth is your theory about your vote on Conspirator not being counted?! please re-check the vote tally again?
Right, I said it's moth over Michelle based on my intuition, but it could be Michelle.
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I will answer shortly being at work bolded inside the quote i transform into spoiler
keeping in mind I havent read today's posts yet,
PK had two voters , moth and yourself, but only one vote was counted against him.
I don't know hidden mechanics of the game to understand what happened.
A secret voter role still posts a vote publicly, but this vote is not counted if they PM a private vote instead.
We never played here with secret voter, if you are right this would be the first time. You are speculating something or you know it? Dont answer though, hinting is dangerous
So if moth or you were a secret voter, you'd have cast your vote on PK publicly, but privately voted Conspirator.
This means your quote above is not a counterargument.
I didn't vote Conspirator. I know his meta as low poster and idk yet if this can be alignament indicative.
A secret voter can align their secret vote with their public vote. That makes their vote transparent.
Sending a different private vote is deceptive, and as town you only have two reasons for this:
a) to indirectly claim this ability. you'd vote a town clear for this that nobody else votes, so when your public vote is not counted, we can deduce something about you. (but this is probably bad play)
b) to wrest lynch control from mafia. you might feel that mafia is trying to create a tie, or trying to lynch a townie. in that case, you place yourself on the mafia-driven wagon, and vote the counterwagon secretly.
As mafia, you'd do it to hide that you controlling the lynch.
this looks pretty bastard for me i wouldn't put such thing in a game be it madness or not.
PK (incorrectly?) suggested that moth and me had their votes stolen when the bear appeared. If you are a secret voter, then putting your public vote on PK meant that everyone would jump to the conclusion that the missing vote was caused by moth or me having ours stolen, because PK had already introduced this idea. The PK vote provides perfect cover for you IF you are a secret voter, and the PK wagon having 3 votes but really only 2 would make the actual lynch be unexpected, and be blamed on me.
The drawback to this theory is that it works much better if mafia are trying to prevent a PK lynch. But PK flipped town this morning, so it's a lot less likely to be true now. There is no reason I can see that makes mafia want to lynch Conspirator over PK, unless they knew Conspirator's role (which I don't remember right now).
I feel that you are going too much into that theory, it may be true that a secret voter exist but if it is, is not me.
btw, Poison chan flipped town, and had you pegged as scum on D1. Should we believe that and lynch you?
She suspected me day one and day 2 she said Alice is town. If she had a real suspicion on me she would tunnel me to death on day 2.
PK had two voters , moth and yourself, but only one vote was counted against him.
I don't know hidden mechanics of the game to understand what happened.
A secret voter role still posts a vote publicly, but this vote is not counted if they PM a private vote instead.
We never played here with secret voter, if you are right this would be the first time. You are speculating something or you know it? Dont answer though, hinting is dangerous
So if moth or you were a secret voter, you'd have cast your vote on PK publicly, but privately voted Conspirator.
This means your quote above is not a counterargument.
I didn't vote Conspirator. I know his meta as low poster and idk yet if this can be alignament indicative.
A secret voter can align their secret vote with their public vote. That makes their vote transparent.
Sending a different private vote is deceptive, and as town you only have two reasons for this:
a) to indirectly claim this ability. you'd vote a town clear for this that nobody else votes, so when your public vote is not counted, we can deduce something about you. (but this is probably bad play)
b) to wrest lynch control from mafia. you might feel that mafia is trying to create a tie, or trying to lynch a townie. in that case, you place yourself on the mafia-driven wagon, and vote the counterwagon secretly.
As mafia, you'd do it to hide that you controlling the lynch.
this looks pretty bastard for me i wouldn't put such thing in a game be it madness or not.
PK (incorrectly?) suggested that moth and me had their votes stolen when the bear appeared. If you are a secret voter, then putting your public vote on PK meant that everyone would jump to the conclusion that the missing vote was caused by moth or me having ours stolen, because PK had already introduced this idea. The PK vote provides perfect cover for you IF you are a secret voter, and the PK wagon having 3 votes but really only 2 would make the actual lynch be unexpected, and be blamed on me.
The drawback to this theory is that it works much better if mafia are trying to prevent a PK lynch. But PK flipped town this morning, so it's a lot less likely to be true now. There is no reason I can see that makes mafia want to lynch Conspirator over PK, unless they knew Conspirator's role (which I don't remember right now).
I feel that you are going too much into that theory, it may be true that a secret voter exist but if it is, is not me.
btw, Poison chan flipped town, and had you pegged as scum on D1. Should we believe that and lynch you?
She suspected me day one and day 2 she said Alice is town. If she had a real suspicion on me she would tunnel me to death on day 2.
No, i said potentially(?) why are you so aggressive with me? I'm not supporting the idea; I'm presenting it.
I've stated that I town-read Alice, even before Poison dropped her vague post redeeming her town. And i've even made a theory as to why would Poison trust Alice, making use of her role sheet, and I'm down to debate that. Regardless, I do not trust anyone to take his reads for granted, though.
If Alice was such an easy lynch then why hasn't she been lynched then? The simplest answer is most times the correct one and it's as simple as Alice is Mafia and you are her teammate
I've been onto you since forever and just because you got the suspicion off of yourself day 1 to take down the Serial Killer does't make you not Mafia.
And you wanted to tie the votes day 1 which means your suspicions were falsified, you thought Rej was a townie.
You know because he isn't in your factionDont Ore. He is town. Don't ask me how i know. Cant explain it without being mod killed.
@Elmage G Ace if you want to go scum hunting. Dont start on me. You're just wasting your time.
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Tbf moth you're a genuinely funny person, and some of your actions she might find laughable.red. I highly doubt youd laugh and react to the majority of my posts the way you have<- (this) if you felt I was scum. surely you woulda mentioned me being scum much sooner
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No I mean, if you were to die because you were wrong about a single person's alignment from your list, who would you be most confident in being said alignment?
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POISON defended Alice HARD.
POISON is not mafia.
Anyone who claims Alice is defended by scum is trying to distract town.
Unless Alice has dropped a really big scum tell today, then please educate me.
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