Six Paths vs Six Paths

[Aznkidd]

I believe in Kishi :lol ...main character got the best in the end :lol

 

[Joon]

Kaguya's chakra isn't infinite and she possesses more chakra than the Juubi.

What Kishi said contradicts statements that was made earlier in the manga.

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[oxtopus]

Rsm(naruto) has everything the juubi jiins have except 1 extra tsb but comes with way better durability,speed and bijuu kkg plus universal comprehension.

 

[wanderingcactus]

progenitor of everything.

Juubi Jin obviously

 

[SumnNarutoRelated]

The juubi isn't simply all 9 beasts put together

its an entirely new beast that is partly composed of the 9 beasts put together

 

[sagemode07]

RSM
If madara didn't have Rinnegan he is < Naruto.

 

[NarutoX28]

What Kishi said contradicts statements that was made earlier in the manga.

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I'm not understanding your point? Is this a rebuttal?

 

[Umari Senju]

I believe RSM. The reason Madara was so powerful was because he also had the double Rinnegan and the Sharinnegan in addition to absorbing the Shinju tree.

Take away the Shinju double Rinnegan and he's left with something similar to Saskue without the Amenjakara

 

[Nick01]

Def. RSM.

It's more versatile. Naruto even made JJ Madara flee for his life.

 

[Joon]

I'm not understanding your point? Is this a rebuttal?

It is a rebuttal. Kaguya's chakra was measured from Juubi's chakra by Naruto that was earlier said it cannot be measured. Now [in the scan above] it is saying that Kaguya's chakra is bigger than Juubi's.


Now, if we compare just Juubi Jinchuuriki, it is not much we go off on other than the Juubi Obito was stronger than Hashirama and Juubi Madara was stronger than Juubi Obito.

 

[gerizzyYMcrew]

They're the same mode essentially except for one being from the ten-tails while the other from the collective nine-tailed beasts. Their reaction speeds are similar as stated by the Databook but the more chakra a ten-tails' host has the faster and stronger they get.

@ bold that's not what the databook says

 

[NarutoX28]

It is a rebuttal. Kaguya's chakra was measured from Juubi's chakra by Naruto that was earlier said it cannot be measured. Now [in the scan above] it is saying that Kaguya's chakra is bigger than Juubi's.

When you take it into context, it's because Naruto himself can't imagine how much power one being can possess, but when Naruto has a Rikudou Power himself, it seems somewhat measurable.

If Kaguya's chakra was shown to have limits and she has more chakra than something believed to be "infinite", it simply means that there is a limit to the Juubi's Chakra and was simply immeasurable for beings like Naruto and Kurama because they're no where near that level in comparison to RSM Naruto.

 

[NarutoX28]

@ bold that's not what the databook says

Meh, I gave up arguing that because people still believe he needs the Bijuu for RSM despite the fact that he used RSM w/o the Bijuu's influence in the first place. Doesn't matter what you say, they'll still stick to that opinion regardless.

 

[Holy God]

@ bold that's not what the databook says

Hagoromo perhaps made it possible by instructing all the Tailed Beasts that Naruto would be their meeting place, thus making it a gift from him, but the mode still comes from their chakra. As for the argument that NarutoX28 had in mind, the Databook never stated that the Naruto in the picture was using the Six Paths Sage Mode. The caption simply stated that his large amount of chakra (referring to his Six Paths chakra that even Sasuke had) allows him to interact with Truth-Seeking Spheres.

 

[NarutoX28]

Hagoromo perhaps made it possible by instructing all the Tailed Beasts that Naruto would be their meeting place, thus making it a gift from him, but the mode still comes from their chakra. As for the argument that NarutoX28 had in mind, the Databook never stated that the Naruto in the picture was using the Six Paths Sage Mode. The caption simply stated that his large amount of chakra (referring to his Six Paths chakra that even Sasuke had) allows him to interact with Truth-Seeking Spheres.

The picture used was a demonstration of RSM Naruto, emphasizing that his vast amounts of chakra obtained from Rikudou Senjutsu enabled him to interact with Truth-Seeking Spheres and surpass Bijuu Mode as a result. It wouldn't make sense for there to be a Databook Entry that explains Rikudou Senjutsu and simply use an image completely unrelated to it. Furthermore, Naruto could also sense Madara's Limbo clones which could not have been done without Rikudou's Senjutsu IMO.

 

[Holy God]

The picture used was a demonstration of RSM Naruto, emphasizing that his vast amounts of chakra obtained from Rikudou Senjutsu enabled him to interact with Truth-Seeking Spheres and surpass Bijuu Mode as a result. It wouldn't make sense for there to be a Databook Entry that explains Rikudou Senjutsu and simply use an image completely unrelated to it. Furthermore, Naruto could also sense Madara's Limbo clones which could not have been done without Rikudou's Senjutsu IMO.

As we've been shown by Sasuke however, one does not need to activate Six Paths Sage Mode in order to interact with the Truth-Seeking Spheres. It's something that signifies that he has the "power of the ten-tails" and the only feat of such a thing so it was a feat of Six Paths Sage Chakra, which is not completely unrelated, just like the last caption states Naruto's reaction speed is on par with Madara's, even though the image has nothing to do with Naruto's own speed. Your last point is very interesting however. It means that either his regular Sage Mode accompanied with Six Paths chakra is able to sense Limbo or Naruto is in fact using Six Paths Sage Mode. I'm not shut off to the idea, but it can't be the full Six Paths Sage Mode like he has with the cloak. I'm sure we can all agree that the stats of that Naruto surpasses the one without the cloak.

 

[NarutoX28]

As we've been shown by Sasuke however, one does not need to activate Six Paths Sage Mode in order to interact with the Truth-Seeking Spheres. It's something that signifies that he has the "power of the ten-tails" and the only feat of such a thing so it was a feat of Six Paths Sage Chakra, which is not completely unrelated, just like the last caption states Naruto's reaction speed is on par with Madara's, even though the image has nothing to do with Naruto's own speed. Your last point is very interesting however. It means that either his regular Sage Mode accompanied with Six Paths chakra is able to sense Limbo or Naruto is in fact using Six Paths Sage Mode. I'm not shut off to the idea, but it can't be the full Six Paths Sage Mode like he has with the cloak. I'm sure we can all agree that the stats of that Naruto surpasses the one without the cloak.

I'll agree, it's not completely unrelated as having Six Paths Chakra (which Sasuke has) and Six Paths Sage Mode are related, but the Databook Entry was focusing solely on a Rikudou Power associated with Rikudou Senjutsu and highlights characteristics only exclusive to Rikudou Senjutsu. The images themselves are supposed to represent what the user can do with the specific technique is being highlighted here which in this case, is Rikudou Senjutsu. While both are connected, Rikudou Senjutsu has characteristics that people with Six Paths Chakra normally do not have.

Well, Naruto couldn't have been in "Base" in the first place because his mode here:

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Is different from here:

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I also don't think it can be just regular Sage Mode along with Rikudou's Chakra as that seems to resemble this:

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Which is different than the mode he used against JJ Madara (Pre-Shinju). This is personally why it seems as if Naruto is using RSM w/o the Bijuu's Chakra. When he manifests the cloak, he's using Kurama's Bijuu Mode along with Rikudou Senjutsu which would give him superior stats overall of course.

 

[gerizzyYMcrew]

Hagoromo perhaps made it possible by instructing all the Tailed Beasts that Naruto would be their meeting place, thus making it a gift from him, but the mode still comes from their chakra. As for the argument that NarutoX28 had in mind, the Databook never stated that the Naruto in the picture was using the Six Paths Sage Mode. The caption simply stated that his large amount of chakra (referring to his Six Paths chakra that even Sasuke had) allows him to interact with Truth-Seeking Spheres.

@ bold no...the mode comes from hagoromo's chakra...you know the guy who used six paths senjutsu even before becoming the jinchuriki of ten tails...OBITO was the one who made naruto the meeting point for all the tailed beasts...hagoromo just told them what would be going on from now on...he did nothing special to naruto involving the tailed beasts at all...he just gave naruto his chakra

 

[00Rinne]

RSM is better because you have access to the bijuu's power unlike the JJ who forced their way into that power. Naruto's RSM allowed him to have perfect sync with the Bijuu's while JJ only used Rinne tech's an couldn't or wouldn't access the bijuu power which is what one would want RSM for. Six paths RSM is better to me.

 

[Darth AniCetuS]

RSM ofc.