[Discussion] Should men work in daycare and elementary?

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I feel like I'm reading something straight out of Sargon of Akkad's videos. Yes, that'd be sexist, since it's assuming that somehow sexual desires and the inability to control them is linked to one gender. At best, this is using tendencies to block off an entire gender regardless of exceptions within the gender. At worst, it's completely unfounded view that entirely opinionated and based on prejudice on the other ***.
 

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I don't see why not. We had like 1 male kindergarten teacher in my school, and a bunch of male teachers in my elementary. The only times a teacher was messing with a kid in my schools it was always a chick.
 
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I value the safety of my kids more than whether or not I'm discriminating.

So you decided to make a hasty generalization of men and watching kids? You do know that woman can harm kids too right?
 

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The feminists are afraid if they let a man work in kindergarten he will teach boy's how to build a patriarchy world.
 

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So you decided to make a hasty generalization of men and watching kids? You do know that woman can harm kids too right?
It's not a rational decision but incase there was a predator in that particular daycare, they'd be less likely to be women.
 

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The feminists are afraid if they let a man work in kindergarten he will teach boy's how to build a patriarchy world.
That's not a feminist than.A true feminist wants equality for men and women.
It's not a rational decision but incase there was a predator in that particular daycare, they'd be less likely to be women.

That's another hasty generalization right there.
 

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It isn't that bad, they are men that work in beauty salons and nobody says anything about them.
 

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That's not a feminist than.A true feminist wants equality for men and women.


That's another hasty generalization right there.
Generalizations are how we make sense of the world, it's only natural I use it to discern who I leave my kids with.
Anyway, this is all in an imaginary scenario, I wouldn't put my kids in daycare in the first place.
 

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I'd value the safety of my kids more than whether or not I'm discriminating.

Simple solution: Make a universal standard. Make a physical and psychological test to see if someone has a mental or physical condition that makes them unstable as well as personality compatibility. Also, there should be background checks in addition to this. In reality, these should be in place(assuming they aren't already) since, even if it's extremely rare, there's always a chance of a pedophile/psychotic woman as well. This way, even if men are the most dominant in these offences, they'll be tested to make sure they aren't in that group, and as such, making them have the same qualifications to take care of children as women.
 

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Generalizations are how we make sense of the world, it's only natural I use it to discern who I leave my kids with.
Anyway, this is all in an imaginary scenario, I wouldn't put my kids in daycare in the first place.

Fallacy- a mistaken belief, especially one based on unsound argument.
Fallacies can not be logical or valid.
 

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Generalizations are how we make sense of the world, it's only natural I use it to discern who I leave my kids with.
Anyway, this is all in an imaginary scenario, I wouldn't put my kids in daycare in the first place.

Generalizations are the end of civilizations; or will be.
 

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Fallacy- a mistaken belief, especially one based on unsound argument.
Fallacies can not be logical or valid.


Playing devil's advocate here: Generalization is absolutely faulty when making a judgement for an individual, but could be a reflection of probability.


That being said, the simple solution is making an ideal standard, and testing all to judge one's true characteristics.
 

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Well, first you have to realize how public schooling/financing works.

Schools are no different than any other organization, they want money. Schools receive more money from the government when they have more students. Hence why, no one gives a flying **** about super seniors, because the school board doesn't factor them into the budget (at least in Florida).

While generalizing is generally (giggle) bad, it does hold it's merit in some situations. People are less likely to send there child to a elementary school that's primarily composed of male teachers. Why? Because people are paranoid when it comes to their kids. They want their kids to be around women, who are generally believed to be more nurturing and patient with younger children. What happens when there are less kids in schools? There's less money being funded.

People think of this and immediately think of sexual assault, when that's not the reason for it.. but it may, be a contributing factor, I don't know.

My personal thoughts? If a man is up to the task, he's up to the task. That simple. But my personal thoughts and feelings on the topic aren't the same as the masses.
 

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Fallacy- a mistaken belief, especially one based on unsound argument.
Fallacies can not be logical or valid.
In the real world you don't always have evidence to make a rational decision about a person or an event, to counteract that you rely on your intuition which is your gut feeling about a person. Searching for evidence to confirm your suspicion before you take action is counterproductive and defeats the purpose of wanting evidence in the first place. I don't want to find my child getting raped before I make the conclusion that a person isn't fit to take care of them. Believing you can afford to use logic and reason to deal with every scenario in life is a fallacy.
 

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Men should be able to work in any job field. It's sexist to say otherwise. And the whole "they can do something sexual to the kids" is pure ignorance. I guess they ignore all the women who sexually abuse children.
 

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The answer is simple, that's stupid sexist and it doesn't work that way but I bet people are gonna have longass redundant conversations about this. Everyone wants a piece of this cake, I will just grab popcorn and wait for the discussion to heat up!
 
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