[Theory] Shockin theroy of izanami and izanagi

Do you think Izanami is a possibility.

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Izanami

i said in a prediction that izanami is a way to die but bring yourself back through sheer will. madara said he could have taught hashirama how to rise from the dead. that means its not edo tensei or anything. and it implies he wasn't the one who killed hashirama. madara is somehow dismayed that he's dead rather than glad. i think we will see izanami soon, probably from tobi.
 
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Mythology on Izanagi and Izanami - key to solving this.

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Some names you will be familiar with: Izanami, Izanagi, Susano.

Note: Izangi = Izanagi, and Izanmi - Izanami (short form).

Izangi (meaning "He who invites"), together with Izanami ("She who invites"), are of the seventh generation of Shinto's celestial gods. Together, they were the creators of the Japanese islands (Yamato).

Izanagi and Izanami were given a special spear by the older generations, with which Izangi reached down and created the first island, Onogoro.

Izangi and Izanami decided to marry and to mate to bring about new generations and new lands from the Earth. To marry, they created a ritual to celebrate. During the ceremony, Izanami cried out delightfully upon seeing Izangi. Izangi returned the excitement, but reminded Izanami that a female should not speak first in this manner.

The first result of their lovemaking was a deformed child that was shaped like a leech (this child is sometimes associated with the god Hiruko). Izangi and Izami returned to Heaven in order to determine the cause of this deformity. They learned that Izanami's outburst during their wedding polluted their marriage. So, the couple then repeated the ceremony, only Izanami remained silent until spoken to.

Their next attempt at mating created the eight largest islands of Japan, and consequent bubbles in the ocean gave rise to the smaller islands and other foreign lands. Izangi and Izanami later created dieties of the sea, wind, mountains, rivers, trees and of rice.

Izanami then gave birth to a fire god, Kagutsuchi, but with dire consequences. Izanami was burned during burth, and fell down to the ground. From her death, many more gods were born, including earth and water goddesses. Izangi's tears as he mourned his lover also created more dieties, and in anger, sliced Kagutuchi up with a sword. His pieces, too, became gods, and his spattered blood formed the stars of the Milky Way.

Izangi sought to return his beloved Izanami, and followed her to Yomi, the Japanese underworld. Eventually finding her in the darkness, Izangi begged her to return. She refused, and told him that she had eaten the dark food of Yomi and could not return to the world of the living. Later, though, as Izanami lay down to sleep, Izangi lit a torch to see. When he did, though, he saw his wife's decaying body. The sight shocked him, and he dropped the torch and ran.

Izanami was woken and tried to stop Izangi from leaving, but he created a barrier between the world of the living and the dead with a boulder. He announced that he would divorce his wife, and she protested saying that she would take 1000 of the living each day if he did. Izangi replied that he would give live to 1,500 each day.
Thus, death was introduced to the world, but Izangi's life-giving still fuels the growth of mankind as he brings more into the world than Izanami can take away.

Seeing the taint of the underworld on his skin, Izangi plunged himself into a river. As he bathed, from his left eye, the goddess Amaterasu came forth, from his right, Tsukiyomi, and from his nose, the god Susano.

Susano, god of the restless seas, complained about his role and was banished (willingly) by Izangi to Yomi. After sending Susano away, Izanagi sought retirement. Some accounts of the myth say that Izangi returned to the heavens to be near Amaterasu, while others say that he rested on the island of Honshu, were he is still worshiped.


CRUCIAL POINTS:

1) Izanagi is a life-giver... it makes sense... Izanagi allows the user to live even though he can get hit with killing blows... so he essentially gives life through giving the user multiple chances.

2) Izanami is a life-ender. She takes away from the person. So, Itachi used Izanami to decide whether to take Kabuto's life or not... and with it, end the edo-tensei.
 
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Re: Izanami Information

i heard a different story, that izanagi n izanami were brother and sister. izanami died n izanagi tried (and failed) to rescue her from the underworld. during the purification process on his return home he produced amaterasu from his left eye, tsukuyomi from his right, and susanoo from his nose.
 

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Re: Mythology on Izanagi and Izanami - key to solving this.

So, that's it guys. I believe based on this, the fight will end with kabuto being forced to release the edo-tensei and die.
 

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Re: Izanami Information

Just some information bro calm down.
I'm perfectly calm ;)

I'm just saying that I've read at least 3 different versions of this myth (not even remotely similar) so I'd like to find out which one is correct. :)

EDIT - Well Scorpio0Pharaoh0Titan's post cleared it up for me :)
 
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Re: Mythology on Izanagi and Izanami - key to solving this.

Yeah but it has to tie in with what Itachi said. If Izanagi can change destiny and Izanami can decide it then it may have to follow around those lines. The deity Izanagi was known to give life, in a way Izanagi (Kinjutsu) gives the user new life by negating their death (Changing the destiny). Izanami in the end was known for taking away life, the role of death in mythology. So I'm guessing that when you have "decide destiny" with a goddess who took on the role of death......This jutsu will decide Kabuto's fate and will be his defeat. Maybe he'll be sent to some Yomi underworld or maybe he will just be killed. Lol
 

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Re: Mythology on Izanagi and Izanami - key to solving this.

So, that's it guys. I believe based on this, the fight will end with kabuto being forced to release the edo-tensei and die.
NO WAY :eek:

More symbolism: Itachi means death (duh). Why does this matter? Death can't be defeated, outsmarted, or controlled. Everyone succumbs to death eventually. Itachi cannot be defeated, outsmarted or controlled. Kabuto never had a chance.
 

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Re: Mythology on Izanagi and Izanami - key to solving this.

NO WAY :eek:

More symbolism: Itachi means death (duh). Why does this matter? Death can't be defeated, outsmarted, or controlled. Everyone succumbs to death eventually. Itachi cannot be defeated, outsmarted or controlled. Kabuto never had a chance.
That's awesome xd + rep
 

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Re: Mythology on Izanagi and Izanami - key to solving this.

NO WAY :eek:

More symbolism: Itachi means death (duh). Why does this matter? Death can't be defeated, outsmarted, or controlled. Everyone succumbs to death eventually. Itachi cannot be defeated, outsmarted or controlled. Kabuto never had a chance.
Loved that one, bro :D
 

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Re: Mythology on Izanagi and Izanami - key to solving this.

maybe the Izanagi requires two uchiha members to execute, since izanagi and izanami are siblings.. im guessing it's izanagi performed on user's uchiha partner instead of the user himself. kinda like two sharingans link and covering each other.

there was a page were itachi asked sasuke if he knew izanagi.and the last page stated that the jiutsu was prepared. my guess is that "izanami" user grants the "izanagi" user to alternate his reality(izanami user) rather than the izanagi user himself. *and since the izanagi user does not use it on himself,his sharingan would not loose its light.
** * *Maybe itachi will ask sasuke to use izanagi while he(itachi) attacks kabuto.*
this would really suck if it requires two uchihas two perform. Besides Sasuke, its only Tobi wit Uchiha blood in the manga.I doubt they'll be willing to use it together.

**Just a wild guess on this izanagi jiutsu

i also think itachi only needs tsukoyomi to end the edo tensei,, he just has to figure out how to catch kabuto in it. *
 

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Re: Mythology on Izanagi and Izanami - key to solving this.

NO WAY :eek:

More symbolism: Itachi means death (duh). Why does this matter? Death can't be defeated, outsmarted, or controlled. Everyone succumbs to death eventually. Itachi cannot be defeated, outsmarted or controlled. Kabuto never had a chance.
epicness:scorps::scorps:
 

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Izanami Theory

Izanami makes the user able to make his/her genjutsu into reality rather then Izangi which turns reality into genjutsu.He wont be able to fully use it though as he doesnt have the rinnegan nor does he have senju dna.
 

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Re: Izanami Theory

for all I know, Itachi has senju DNA. Of all the characters in Naruto, no one has been more unpredictable as Itachi. Not tobi, not madara. Itachi on the other hand, i don't need to speak.

As far as the thread is concerned, it is probably true U_U.
 

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Re: Izanami Theory

It is stated the for Izanagi one needs both Uchiha and Senji, nothig is stated about Izanami until now (it could be an only Uchiha jutsu for all we know). I would agree with the theory behind what Izanami does, however I believe that it will work perfectly fine for Itachi... it will just cost him an eye
 
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