Sharingan can copy Gentle fist

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This discussion is moot if you cannot define what is and what is not gentle fist. Is it just the movements? is it the movements with the chakra expulsion? is it the movements with chakra expulsion that targets the tenketsus?

If so the answer is yes, yes and no.
 

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NOT ALL user me chakra control to pull it off, but Sarada does
 

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I think we can establish the sharingan can copy gentle fist.

For starters there are multiple instances the sharingan was used to analyze and/or copy taijutsu and kenjutsu abilities.

For example Sasuke when he copied Lee's taijutsu from his first battle with Lee and then again before the chunin exam where he fought Gaara.

Then we have Sarada who was able to analyze her opponents kenjutsu skill pattern and weave his attack at The last moment to deal a fatal blow.


Secondly, we know gentle fist can be learned regardless if you have the byakugan or not because Hinata went ahead and taught Boruto gentle fist taijutsu even though he didn't posses the byakugan.


So it's safe to say that the sharingan can copy any taijutsu style that's not the inner gates and this includes gentle fist.

Congratualtions on making like a huge thread.
 

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This discussion is moot if you cannot define what is and what is not gentle fist. Is it just the movements? is it the movements with the chakra expulsion? is it the movements with chakra expulsion that targets the tenketsus?

If so the answer is yes, yes and no.

I’m in complete agreement with you here.

Without first establishing what exactly Gentle Fist entails in its entirety there isn’t really a solid answer.

My best analysis:

The Sharingan can copy the Gentle Fist movements, but without chakra exerting ability and Byakugan to see the Kentetsu, it’s basically just copying the Hyuga Taijutsu style and not the true Gentle Fist which incorporates both the Byakugan AND the ability/training to expel/inject chakra into their opponent’s tenketsu.

With out all of these factors...Can we really call the copying of the movements alone Gentle Fist?
 

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The subject is indeed valid , but Chidori is indeed emitted from the palm. CES doesn't emit its chakra which is why you could never see a CES user emit it from their whole body like Chidori stream.

I couldn't understand my own points the last time which i attribute to losing brain cells arguing with the fanfic member and the other one with weird fetishes.. but i do now.

The manga especially doesn't hint at Chidori being emitted consciously. The concentrated chakra is just so much and probably coupled with it being transformed to lightning, it becomes visible. [ ]

Gai's statements for one imply the chakra is gathered in the arm only [ - ] and that's why he calls it a hand chop [ ].

If Sasuke had bijuu level chakra, then his full body chidori might have looked like the Raikage's .. and we know the Raikage isn't consciously emitting that mode from his body.

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Basically, Sasuke activates his whole body's flesh the same way he does for normal Chidori [ ], it's visible the same way Chidori is which is what Sakura saw and when he discharges it, it escapes from all pores in his body the same way Raikage's lightning mode gushes out of his body. [ ]
 

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Sharingan can do anything basically
 

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Sharingan can copy everything but can it perform Gentle Fist...? Probably no. It's a Kekkei Genkai.
 

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So the byakugan is a KKG and Gentle Fist is like a hidden technique??

Gf is part KKG\hidden because you must have the ability have complete control over your chakra system and the ability to expel chakra from all of the points.

The hidden part is knowing what chakra points to hit to get what desired effect so is half and half
 

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yeah all GF moves are categorized as KKG

they power rank isn't listed either as they are also all secret techniques

Boruto can't do GF currently, he just does palm thrust hits that we've seen even Shikadai do once.

Eventually if he DOES do the actual GF it would be due to him being a Hyuga.
 

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I’m in complete agreement with you here.

Without first establishing what exactly Gentle Fist entails in its entirety there isn’t really a solid answer.

My best analysis:

The Sharingan can copy the Gentle Fist movements, but without chakra exerting ability and Byakugan to see the Kentetsu, it’s basically just copying the Hyuga Taijutsu style and not the true Gentle Fist which incorporates both the Byakugan AND the ability/training to expel/inject chakra into their opponent’s tenketsu.

With out all of these factors...Can we really call the copying of the movements alone Gentle Fist?

Exactly

Gf is part KKG\hidden because you must have the ability have complete control over your chakra system and the ability to expel chakra from all of the points

Because at any time they can change the taijutsu style into anything they want they can switch it into muy thai
 

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He couldn't copy bee


I didn't get you....copy Bee's Kenjutsu...?
you can't copy complex moves
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hence why we've haven't seen anyone copy rasengan or chidori with the sharringan but learn it instead

Well that's the anime. Databook and canon part 1 says it can....doing it another thing entirely.
 
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