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-Current Kakashi surpasses Jiraiya's powers, By plot or not Kamui became the most Haxxed jutsu in the NV

OT Nice list, I agree with Zabuza being low kage, don't listen to the others , But i must say that you overrate Hiruzen a little bit, i mean by feats he's low kage level. And Itachi should be one tier down, his chakra reserves are pitifull just like kakashi's, that's why he doesn't deserve to be on the same tier as Sasuke and Minato
Itachi does deserve to be on the same tier with sasuke and minato. Unlike Kakashi who everyone fusses over for a stupid little kamui, Itachi has plenty skill to keep him up there... Especially skills that aren't chakra intensive. The people that are in kakashi's tier are better than him in almost every way, but because of a kamui he should be there...? No. Without the kamui intangibility obito would be died centuries ago, that's why his kamui is so hax. All kakashi's kamui does is allow him to quickly warp small objects for defence, or slowly absorb large one. Anyone who can obscure his vision or escape his kamui zone is escaping his kamui. Don't even try to bring in some outdated DB scan because it's not backed up by the manga in the slightest way possible. Kakashi is too high, so is Oro and kabuto, muu and onoki. All these people on NB look at is flashing lights and the effects of jutsu without looking at all the drawbacks.
People like mei, deidara, kisame, basically everyone in mid-high is too low when you look at who's in high kage. It's completely stupid. Even Kakashi could take on onoki or muu, like wtf. Only 3rd raikage, bee, tobirama, 'prime' hiruzen actually deserves that spot..
 

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Mei is not High kage, maybe mid kage at most.

Jiraiya is on another level than Tsunade.

Temari isn't well rounded enough to be low kage. yeah she has great fuuton, but other than that, she isn't that impressive.

Sakura maybe, does anyone else think Sakura is low kage?
Sakura is low kage, but Temari is not, Zabuza is not either.
 

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What the **** is this lol tobirama ...so god damn high?

Kakuzu's high kage...but other than that decent list
Don't underestimate Tobirama. The guy created edo tensei, excellent suiton, bombing techniques, shadow clones, flying thunder god technique, barriers, sensing, and you're telling me this guy isn't high kage level? Danzo stated nobody could match him when he was hokage and he defeated izuna who was said to be on par with madara.

Kakuzu high kage? No way, no way that's like Killer B's and the 3rd Raikage's tier, Kakuzu doesn't match any of the ninja I listed as high kage. Can u find other people that find him as high kage?

-Current Kakashi surpasses Jiraiya's powers, By plot or not Kamui became the most Haxxed jutsu in the NV

OT Nice list, I agree with Zabuza being low kage, don't listen to the others , But i must say that you overrate Hiruzen a little bit, i mean by feats he's low kage level. And Itachi should be one tier down, his chakra reserves are pitifull just like kakashi's, that's why he doesn't deserve to be on the same tier as Sasuke and Minato
Hiruzen was called the God of Shinobi even when guys like Onoki and the 3rd Raikage were in power, implying he was even more powerful than them. He has to stay there.

Itachi definitely deserves to be up there. The guy's jutsu are so OP to a point where his chakra reserves aren't threatening to kill him to some extent.

Agreed?

Sakura is low kage, but Temari is not, Zabuza is not either.
Dude if you're putting Sakura as low Kage then Zabuza definitely deserves to be up there. Sakura has monstrous strength, however, her punches are slow and not as advanced as Strong Fist or the Gentle Fist. Shinobi as skilled as the Legendary Seven Ninja Swordsmen of the Hidden Mist are able to avoid her attacks. Her punching the ground isn't killing advanced ninja either.

She has Katsuyu but Katsuyu has never shown to be used against human sized targets offensively, only boss summons which is very rare to run into.
 

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You think Kakashi and Tobirama are on Itachi's level? So Kakashi is top of the line high hokage-legend tier?


Don't underestimate Tobirama. The guy created edo tensei, excellent suiton, bombing techniques, shadow clones, flying thunder god technique, barriers, sensing, and you're telling me this guy isn't high kage level? Danzo stated nobody could match him when he was hokage and he defeated izuna who was said to be on par with madara.

Kakuzu high kage? No way, no way that's like Killer B's and the 3rd Raikage's tier, Kakuzu doesn't match any of the ninja I listed as high kage. Can u find other people that find him as high kage?



Hiruzen was called the God of Shinobi even when guys like Onoki and the 3rd Raikage were in power, implying he was even more powerful than them. He has to stay there.

Itachi definitely deserves to be up there. The guy's jutsu are so OP to a point where his chakra reserves aren't threatening to kill him to some extent.

Agreed?



Dude if you're putting Sakura as low Kage then Zabuza definitely deserves to be up there. Sakura has monstrous strength, however, her punches are slow and not as advanced as Strong Fist or the Gentle Fist. Shinobi as skilled as the Legendary Seven Ninja Swordsmen of the Hidden Mist are able to avoid her attacks. Her punching the ground isn't killing advanced ninja either.

She has Katsuyu but Katsuyu has never shown to be used against human sized targets offensively, only boss summons which is very rare to run into.
Sakura > Zabuza though? Not even compare able.
 

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You think Kakashi and Tobirama are on Itachi's level? So Kakashi is top of the line high hokage-legend tier?
Both are above Itachi's level.

Nagato is definitely not above Minato, BM and all.

Orochimaru ain't no demigod. He can't control Hashirama or Minato. He can barely stop Tobirama.
 

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Sakura > Zabuza though? Not even compare able.
Yeah you're right tobirama is in itachi's tier. I just read narutopedia too and that guys strong af. Hailed as the greated suiton user, edo tensei, flying thunder god kenjutsu attacks, great stamina, intelligence, speed, strength able to perform seals with 1 hand, bombing techniques, shadow clones, chakra sensing, and created the foundation of konoha.

tobirama is definitely top of the line high kage, good arguments on that thread.

Do you really think Kakashi is in their tier though? I'm having a hard time believing that.
 

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Yeah you're right tobirama is in itachi's tier. I just read narutopedia too and that guys strong af. Hailed as the greated suiton user, edo tensei, flying thunder god kenjutsu attacks, great stamina, intelligence, speed, strength able to perform seals with 1 hand, bombing techniques, shadow clones, chakra sensing, and created the foundation of konoha.

tobirama is definitely top of the line high kage, good arguments on that thread.

Do you really think Kakashi is in their tier though? I'm having a hard time believing that.
Thanks, but Tobirama was not hailed as the strongest Suiton user, that is fanfiction. Impressive Suiton from an Anbu somehow means Strongest Suiton user ever? Pish posh. Kakashi belongs in mid-high kage in my opinion. He is great.
 

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Both are above Itachi's level.

Nagato is definitely not above Minato, BM and all.

Orochimaru ain't no demigod. He can't control Hashirama or Minato. He can barely stop Tobirama.
Minato only has BM in his edo form....I'm not counting their edo forms because that's dumb.

Does anyone else think Kakashi is on Itachi's tier? I'll move him if others agree

Yeah but if Hashirama obeys Oro by his own will....then Oro belongs up there. Where do u think Oro belongs?
 

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Thanks, but Tobirama was not hailed as the strongest Suiton user, that is fanfiction. Impressive Suiton from an Anbu somehow means Strongest Suiton user ever? Pish posh. Kakashi belongs in mid-high kage in my opinion. He is great.
Are you sure? I could have sworn one of the anbu stated in the manga he was the greatest suiton user because he could create large scale suiton techs where there is no body of water, which is one of the reasons we was elected as hokage. But if you're positive then nevermind haha.

But yeah I do agree he is in Itachi's tier, top of the line high kage. I moved him


And yeah dude I already have Kakashi in mid-high kage...
 

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Oro has control of Minato, Tobirama, and Hiruzen. He belongs where he is at, as Hashirama won't obey him, so one under DSM Kabuto.
 

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Kakashi's Kamui can solo 95% of the verse.

The only ones that can dodge it are Obito, Minato, Naruto, Ay.

So yeah, he's up there.

And Minato is definitely in the same tier as naruto, seeing as how BM Minato > BM Naruto.
 

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Only if he has markings placed down.
He can sense the chakra build up in Kakashi's eye and make a small Suiton to block Kakashi's vision or Shunshin out of the way.

Wrong. Oro has shown to be able to immobilise Tobirama by CHANNELING chakra.

From immobilisation to control is a long, long road.
Orochimaru can put Kunai in them like he did in part one. =D
 

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The chakra build up takes milliseconds.

Tobirama isn't avoiding Kamui with anything but FTG.
Milliseconds? Rukidobito had enough time to make the black shit. Pretty positive that Tobirama would have enough time to use a Suiton or shunshin out of the way, and if not, he can use FTG.
 
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