Sexist battle: Kishimoto vs Fans

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i havent seen a power for the females that would put them at god-tier. Tsunade is ok,Mei,ok.
 

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The females in the manga aren't fighting too much, like in the other mangas ( Fairy Tail, Bleach ). I guess that's the reason why are they so underrated.

They showing less skin too ..... strangely the female who showed most skin are actually males ......
 

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Since we usually have fans calling kishimoto sexiest , lets just see who is the bigger sexist.


Tsunade:

Kishimoto: Combat skills are unmatched. Greatest Medic ninja to exist. K.O by the touch of the hand. Held higher then the males in her group.


Fans: Nah shes just a fodder, she can't even come close to Jiraiya or Orochimaru. Let alone the Hokages


Mei:

Kishimoto: shes the MizuF*CKINGkage. The strongest from her village

Fans: nah shes weaker then Kakashi and Gai, and some other ninja


Sakura:

Kishimoto: She can create a crater that needs Naruto over 50 Rasengans to create, with 1 punch. Her medical skills are near Tsunade. And she can heal 1000+ ninja

Fans: Shes a fodder, not even close to Naruto and Sasuke.

Fickle as the atumn's sky my friend.

Kishi doesn't even take the time to give them interesting abilities. Super strength and super healing. Without a doubt the most unoriginal and unimpressive abilities I've ever seen.

Konan, Mei, and Ino are like his prized jewels... But that's it man. Tenten has weapons.

He's a sexist because he doesn't put any thought into them. He even said in his jump fest interview in 2011 that Sakura "slipped his mind".

edit: I like Tsunade and all... But compared to the achievements and endeavors of her counterparts (jiraiya teaching and entrusting the future to the child of prophecy, and Orochimaru attempting to unlock the secrets of the universe) she pales in comparison with her backstory and current accomplishments.
 
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Fickle as the atumn's sky my friend.

Kishi doesn't even take the time to give them interesting abilities. Super strength and super healing. Without a doubt the most unoriginal and unimpressive abilities I've ever seen.

Konan, Mei, and Ino are like his prized jewels... But that's it man. Tenten has weapons.

He's a sexist because he doesn't put any thought into them. He even said in his jump fest interview in 2011 that Sakura "slipped his mind".

Like how Naji, Gai, Lee, Kiba, Shino etc all males too slipped out of his mind?
 

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Like how Naji, Gai, Lee, Kiba, Shino etc all males too slipped out of his mind?

His female and male support characters slipped his mind and that's whatever...

But one of his main characters?! No. That's not ok. Can't compare Sakura to Gai, Lee, or Kiba. She was still given panel time, but Kishimoto made sure not to do anything with her. And then he forgot about her completely. Horrible.
 

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Exactly. But i would like to see some females with sharingan. Maybe the clan will be revived an we'll see for certain if they were the strongest clan in konoha.
 

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Am yet to see a female have any real significance on the plot. That's the only problem I find with females in Naruto.
None of them play any major role.
 

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Jiraiya > Tsunade
Kisame >>> Mei
Sasuke/Naruto >>>>> Sakura


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Am yet to see a female have any real significance on the plot. That's the only problem I find with females in Naruto.
None of them play any major role.

Rin ..... her love required sacrifice, her sacrifice brought Pain and that Pan birthed the very war that is being fought..... One does not have to blow up a few mountains to be of significance in the story....

His female and male support characters slipped his mind and that's whatever...

But one of his main characters?! No. That's not ok. Can't compare Sakura to Gai, Lee, or Kiba. She was still given panel time, but Kishimoto made sure not to do anything with her. And then he forgot about her completely. Horrible.

So He basically forgot everyone but Naruto and Sasuke ..... even Kakashi usually stayed on sidelines. So is that sexist or plain lack of focus?
 

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Most of you don't even understand the mechanics of writing characters. It is not even funny anymore. It's actually ridiculously paltry. No writer is obliged to focus on side-characters. Quit whining and deal with it. If he doesn't flesh out the main characters, then it's a problem. As far as the treatment of females is concerned, then it isn't sexist from any angle. Females lack a lot of qualities for a solider, not to mention the actual ninja history. If he has exploited this fact, then big deal.
 

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Why are people getting so riled up over this? Its been happening for years just deal with it.
 

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Am yet to see a female have any real significance on the plot. That's the only problem I find with females in Naruto.
None of them play any major role.
Mito- 9-tails jin

Kushina -.... don't even get me started

Tsunade- way more relevent then Jiraiya or Orochimaru. Has equal part in Naruto's development that Jiraiya does.

Sakura- Healing the whole alliance is a major role.

Fickle as the atumn's sky my friend.

Kishi doesn't even take the time to give them interesting abilities. Super strength and super healing. Without a doubt the most unoriginal and unimpressive abilities I've ever seen.

Konan, Mei, and Ino are like his prized jewels... But that's it man. Tenten has weapons.

He's a sexist because he doesn't put any thought into them. He even said in his jump fest interview in 2011 that Sakura "slipped his mind".

edit: I like Tsunade and all... But compared to the achievements and endeavors of her counterparts (jiraiya teaching and entrusting the future to the child of prophecy, and Orochimaru attempting to unlock the secrets of the universe) she pales in comparison with her backstory and current accomplishments.
- Messing up your nerve system (original)
- Chakra Scalpals (original)
- Medical ninjutsu (original)
- Ability to create poison (original)
- The best at Genjutsu out of team 7 in part 1.

Sakura was given a ability that the Main character and Sasuke.. couldn't even come close to. iight? She has a normal backstory.. and thats why i like her character. Oh and atleast Sakura is original character.

Tsunade: In the shinobi world, the other Sanin don't even touch her in regards status ok? And in regards to power.. only way shes going down to them is genjutsu. Otherwise they have nothing on her. And that is all due to pure strength and the ability to regenerate and tank shit.

Jiraiya= guy who traveled and helped out Nagato/Minato/Naruto.. Though how is he himself greater then Tsunade? Tsunade has taught many medical ninja..... who went on to save lives....

Orochimaru = Evil bastard that killed Konoha ninja..... Most people in the shinobi world don't even like him..... Hes done nothing great to contribute to the shinobi world.

Tsunade = The person who created the Medical system of the shinobi world.. Easily putting into check anything Orochimaru and Jiraiya have as feats. Out of the 3 who was the main one that was responsible of making konoha win the war? Tsunade.

The problem again isn't with Kishimoto, its with the fans underrating abilities like Medical ninjutsu, and super strength.




Well even great artists have to bend to the marketing tactics .... money does matter.
I am just a simple observer ...... I may expect something and be occasionally pleasantly surprised or disappointed but I know how to accept reality.
Even Minato, Orochimaru, Kakashi were Jonins before they became Hokage candidates. Plus I remember you suggesting a Medic is above nearly legendary level front line fighters ...... PLs do realise No matter what Tsunade does not have any Taijutsu style, she just throws plain punches and kicks .... take away her strength and her taijutsu is on par with Chunin.
*cough*Fairytail*cough*
Perhaps bcos its a Grrrrl Power bases anime? Just like Galaxy Angels, Saber Marionette series etc etc etc
Well U too just signed up for the idiot fans league ...... calling Orochimaru and Jirya fodder due to title system. Pls remember both Orochimaru and Jirya was considered for Kage position prior to Tsunade. Dont forget Power and its proper applications can win any Shinobi his battle .....
Humph....
Orochimaru was considered for Hokage by Hiruzen.... not by the jounin = Irrelevent
Jiraiya was considered for Hoakge by the 2 geezers not the village or the jounin = Irrelevent
Tsunade was said to be a better person for the Hokage role by Jiraiya = Jiraiya stating Tsunade is the one who deserves to be Hokage.

And notice how those 2 were in the village.. while Tsunade was not. =]. Go wonder.

Minato was a feared ninja.. cool? Kakashi was the elite jounin... so only Shikaku nominated him, he was definitly not the first choice... =].

As I said, go watch the orochimaru vs Tsunade fight.. and see how shes dancing rings around him in taijutsu. And as for you style.. do you know wtf that means? Oh and the "superhuman strength" wasn't given to her, she made it superhuman..unlike some ninja who are given free abilities =]. Everything about her is more original then Orochimaru or Jiraiya.... Jiraiya has SM... look at the abilities freely given to him. Orochimaru swtiches bodies..... don't even get me started. Combining Superhuman strength, with raw skills that even Jiraiya praised, with Medical ninjutsu, plus speed blitzes and reaction time.. puts her above any of the sanin , or current jounin or current Kage...

What your suggesting about taking "Superhuman strength way and medical ninjutsu".. is like saying take "kurama and Sage mode" away from Naruto....he'll be lower then Neji. and on Chouji's level hardly making him a chounin level.. same can be said for Sasuke.

Fairy tale .. where men are the high elites?

And when was Naruto not a male based anime? Orochimaru was considered by 1 man.. get over it. Jiraiya was only selected cause Tsunade wasn't in the village... and couldn't be found.. the Elders had no problem with Tsunade as Hokage =]. Considering she was a bigger reason to the victory of Konoha in the second war.. puts her above Jiraiya or Orochimaru in regards to battle. As far as Status go.. Jiraiya and Orochimaru don't even compare mate.
 
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