Seriously, are you opposed to Gay Marriage?

[Adam Driver]

Why not? There's already LGBT marriages in mmos:

[video=youtube_share;dgCpPfNCl3k]http://youtu.be/dgCpPfNCl3k[/video]

Why the name change master?

 

[SIR HERDERP PRESIDERP SDO]

Why the name change master?

It's only temporary, I'll go back to SDO later. Lol

 

[Adam Driver]

It's only temporary, I'll go back to SDO later. Lol

I should go premium right now and take it from you U_U

 

[Punk Hazard]

Yes look at this guy get insulted for giving his honest opinion..
I don't have to vote, beauty of freedom.
I'm not denying their right, they can do whatever they want to do for all I care. I'm just not for it.
I'm not going to vote for something that I don't like and doesn't benefit me and I won't vote against it because I have nothing against them. How I feel on the subject matters to me to more than anything else because I put myself before everything and anything else.
And the whole making the world a better place is completely subjective.

Your opinions are not something you hide behind. They are an extension and representation of who you are and your character. If your opinion is that of a terrible outlook, then you are a terrible person. I think that is a terrible opinion, so I think the people who have it are terrible people. Nazis, the KKK, slavery, all started with opinions, they just eventually turned into actions.

I didn't say that someone should make you vote, or that you had to. You have the choice to vote one way, the other way, or not at all. However, I think you SHOULD vote. Not voting on the issue is practically the same thing as voting against them because either way, your contribution doesn't go towards them. Not voting at all means you aren't voting for their right to be married, which is denying their right.

I'm not going to vote for something that I don't like and doesn't benefit me

How I feel on the subject matters to me to more than anything else because I put myself before everything and anything else.

Which is why I called people with your outlook selfish.

You and Wet Dreamz should reread my post better. I never said it'd make the world as a whole a better place, though it would be a step-forward for the world. I said it'd make the world a better place for a group of people; as in, their experience in the world with this change would be better than their experience in it before the change. You are denying people their rights because it doesn't impact you in any way? The fact that it impacts them positively and doesn't impact you or society as a whole negatively is more than enough reason to support it.

 

[Adam Driver]

Your opinions are not something you hide behind. They are an extension and representation of who you are and your character. If your opinion is that of a terrible outlook, then you are a terrible person. I think that is a terrible opinion, so I think the people who have it are terrible people. Nazis, the KKK, slavery, all started with opinions, they just eventually turned into actions.

I didn't say that someone should make you vote, or that you had to. You have the choice to vote one way, the other way, or not at all. However, I think you SHOULD vote. Not voting on the issue is practically the same thing as voting against them because either way, your contribution doesn't go towards them. Not voting at all means you aren't voting for their right to be married, which is denying their right.



Which is why I called people with your outlook selfish.

You and Wet Dreamz should reread my post better. I never said it'd make the world as a whole a better place, though it would be a step-forward for the world. I said it'd make the world a better place for a group of people; as in, their experience in the world with this change would be better than their experience in it before the change. You are denying people their rights because it doesn't impact you in any way? The fact that it impacts them positively and doesn't impact you or society as a whole negatively is more than enough reason to support it.

Im not going to vote, whether you think I'm terrible, selfish or not doesn't bother me, you are no one to me.
And whether gays get their marriage rights or not, doesnt concern me at all.
And if putting myself before others makes me selfish so be it.

 

[SAmIDeXtEr]

They have a right to their preferred sexuality just like anyone else but I just hope there won't be repercussions in the future like for example gay people ruling the world nd shit or future generations choose to be gay and before u know it humans start to become extinct because nobody wants ***** any more. Gay people can't reproduce on their own obviously.

 

[Fodder#3]

One day people will start marrying trees, animals, land, money, stuff that are absurd. In society where science exist; why are we going away from the law of the jungle? Arent we part of Nature? How does a gay marriage allow reproduction which creates no offspring? How will that survive? Survival of the fitest; and yet they cant reproduce. To be classified as a living creature: you must be able to reproduce. The fact that gay people cant REPRODUCE with their mates, it means that the arent living. Therefore Governments should treat them that way.

I wish Hltler had finished his job.................

 

[Fodder#3]

Anyone here that supports Gay people means with their own logic; they support people marrying objects, animals, plants, etc........

 

[Venomous Cobra]

Such toxic mentalities.




Nah, the Bible portrays God as uber homophobic.

Woah woah woah you need to chill playa.

How did you come up with such conclusion in which their mentality is"toxic"? Is because they decide to stay quite about a something they're not sure about ? How are you so sure that yours isn't the one that's messed up ? Everybody is technically part of the problem not only the people that are staying quite.

 

[Multiply]

Your opinions are not something you hide behind. They are an extension and representation of who you are and your character. If your opinion is that of a terrible outlook, then you are a terrible person. I think that is a terrible opinion, so I think the people who have it are terrible people. Nazis, the KKK, slavery, all started with opinions, they just eventually turned into actions.

I didn't say that someone should make you vote, or that you had to. You have the choice to vote one way, the other way, or not at all. However, I think you SHOULD vote. Not voting on the issue is practically the same thing as voting against them because either way, your contribution doesn't go towards them. Not voting at all means you aren't voting for their right to be married, which is denying their right.



Which is why I called people with your outlook selfish.

You and Wet Dreamz should reread my post better. I never said it'd make the world as a whole a better place, though it would be a step-forward for the world. I said it'd make the world a better place for a group of people; as in, their experience in the world with this change would be better than their experience in it before the change. You are denying people their rights because it doesn't impact you in any way? The fact that it impacts them positively and doesn't impact you or society as a whole negatively is more than enough reason to support it.

I was playing devil's advocate, that's not how I feel about it.

 

[Punk Hazard]

Woah woah woah you need to chill playa.

How did you come up with such conclusion in which their mentality is"toxic"? Is because they decide to stay quite about a something they're not sure about ? How are you so sure that yours isn't the one that's messed up ? Everybody is technically part of the problem not only the people that are staying quite.

If there is a problem and you choose neither the side that continue the problem or the side that solves the problem, then you are just as bad as those who choose to continue it.

I think this mentality is toxic because this an issue with a scope that goes beyond just the individual who addresses it, so to think of it only in terms of yourself is toxic. What if every man ignored the fight for women to vote or work or have the same rights as a man because it affected women, and not themselves? What if every white person ignored the fight against slavery because it was towards black people and not themselves? There are times when you think of terms of yourself, and times when you think in terms of more than just yourself. Doing the former when it's time for the latter is not the way to go.

What is there to be not sure about?

I was playing devil's advocate, that's not how I feel about it.

Devil's Advocate means you are going to respond to my argument from a viewpoint that is not necessarily your own. To do so, you're gonna have to still respond to what I actually say, which wasn't what you addressed.

 

[Multiply]

If there is a problem and you choose neither the side that continue the problem or the side that solves the problem, then you are just as bad as those who choose to continue it.

I think this mentality is toxic because this an issue with a scope that goes beyond just the individual who addresses it, so to think of it only in terms of yourself is toxic. What if every man ignored the fight for women to vote or work or have the same rights as a man because it affected women, and not themselves? What if every white person ignored the fight against slavery because it was towards black people and not themselves? There are times when you think of terms of yourself, and times when you think in terms of more than just yourself. Doing the former when it's time for the latter is not the way to go.

What is there to be not sure about?

Devil's Advocate means you are going to respond to my argument from a viewpoint that is not necessarily your own. To do so, you're gonna have to still respond to what I actually say, which wasn't what you addressed.

I barely remember what we were talking about if I'm honest, let me look back.

Edit: Now you got me confused, this is the last thing you said to me when I said I was playing Devil's Advocate:

Yeah, those are terrible people.

 

[wesley]

Couldn't careless what a ****** wants . What he eats won't make me Shit

Please do not refer to gay people as "******", though youbdont g for or against it, yur comment is directed to gay people offensivly, and is very rude -.-! Whether or not you are for against or do not care about gay people being able to marry (though it is the whole purpose of this whole thread)! Please do not insult me or anyone else just because you dont personally care whether we marry or not, it steers your whole nonchalunt agreement to the whole other side. Thank you

 

[Hubba Bubba]

Im not going to vote, whether you think I'm terrible, selfish or not doesn't bother me, you are no one to me.
And whether gays get their marriage rights or not, doesnt concern me at all.
And if putting myself before others makes me selfish so be it.

Dear, God... He's not telling you to vote, he's telling you that you should consider it and giving valid reasons as to why. If you choose not to, you're basically aiding a dogma of matrimony between people who love each other, and so happen to be of the similar ***. Female of Male.

 

[Venomous Cobra]

If there is a problem and you choose neither the side that continue the problem or the side that solves the problem, then you are just as bad as those who choose to continue it.

I think this mentality is toxic because this an issue with a scope that goes beyond just the individual who addresses it, so to think of it only in terms of yourself is toxic. What if every man ignored the fight for women to vote or work or have the same rights as a man because it affected women, and not themselves? What if every white person ignored the fight against slavery because it was towards black people and not themselves? There are times when you think of terms of yourself, and times when you think in terms of more than just yourself. Doing the former when it's time for the latter is not the way to go.

What is there to be not sure about?

Devil's Advocate means you are going to respond to my argument from a viewpoint that is not necessarily your own. To do so, you're gonna have to still respond to what I actually say, which wasn't what you addressed.

Alot of people didn't necessarily support slave stopping or women rights and yet in the end it happened thanks to those who fought for It.My point is that sometimes we have to let it happen naturally and I mean it's painfully obvious that it will be formal someday so why the rush? And to be honest when it comes to homosexuality it's pretty hard for 60% of the people to give a straight answer beacuse In way you think that it's pretty unnatural but you still feel sorry for those who fell in love but still can't marry. for me and you it's easy to express our opinioopinions but not everbody Will feel comfortable with their opinions and actions being judged by other people. homosexuality existed for a long time now and alot of gays are actually married (probably not formally) but yeah most of them are pretty satisfied like this and unlike those examples you listed homosexual community isn't united together, hell I even doubt that they can understand each other's mentality or thoughts so yeah that's biggest issue.however I do think that you're correct about how should people express their thoughts on important matters

 

[BLAZE]

Nope.

 

[Umari Senju]

It's not even marriage if it's between two men marriage by defenition is a bond between a man and a woman.

That is the christian definition of marriage, not the official definition. You realize the act of marriage is older than Christianity right?

OT: I'm not against it. IF two men or two women want to ruin their life like the rest us through marraige they are more than welcomed to it. Gay and lesbian love is no different than heterosexual love. It is all very human. People against that need to do some real introspection if they can understand that.

 

[Bling Kai]

That is the christian definition of marriage, not the official definition. You realize the act of marriage is older than Christianity right?

OT: I'm not against it. IF two men or two women want to ruin their life like the rest us through marraige they are more than welcomed to it. Gay and lesbian love is no different than heterosexual love. It is all very human. People against that need to do some real introspection if they can understand that.

According to the bible wether you believe it or not Adam and eve being the first humans ever where married therefore the oldest couple in history.
Now if you don't belive in any of that then marriage has no official definition. But marriage is really nothing but a bunch of legal papers. I think it's more of a drag than A benefit. If you are married to a woman better not piss her of or you will lose all your shit in a devorce.

 

[Babadook]

That is the christian definition of marriage, not the official definition. You realize the act of marriage is older than Christianity right?

OT: I'm not against it. IF two men or two women want to ruin their life like the rest us through marraige they are more than welcomed to it. Gay and lesbian love is no different than heterosexual love. It is all very human. People against that need to do some real introspection if they can understand that.

Sorry, I don't mean to be rude but this is a rather ignorant post. There are secular countries as well that define marriage as a bond between a man and a woman. Also, christianity is not the only religion that defines marriage as such a bond. And as the other guy said, there is no universal definition. Some societies support polygamy for example.

I just wanted to clear that.

 

[Umari Senju]

According to the bible wether you believe it or not Adam and eve being the first humans ever where married therefore the oldest couple in history.
Now if you don't belive in any of that then marriage has no official definition. But marriage is really nothing but a bunch of legal papers. I think it's more of a drag than A benefit. If you are married to a woman better not piss her of or you will lose all your shit in a devorce.

I agree somewhat lol. Look at the Romans for example. They were around long before Christianity took root (the adam and Eve mythology hadn't been put forth yet) and they were marrying. And that is kind of my point. This argument of "marriage is a union between a man and a woman" is based on a faith that not everyone adheres to. Christianity is not the only (nor the oldest) religion in the world.

They have a right to their preferred sexuality just like anyone else but I just hope there won't be repercussions in the future like for example gay people ruling the world nd shit or future generations choose to be gay and before u know it humans start to become extinct because nobody wants ***** any more. Gay people can't reproduce on their own obviously.

XD people don't choose to be gay. and as to your last point. Japan is actually going through this right now. And it's not because of homosexuality, it's because men and women are not interested in marrying there. There are more elderly than there are newborns in Japan right now.

See there? It wasn't homosexual tendencies that caused a drop in reproduction but people's own personal preference.

Sorry, I don't mean to be rude but this is a rather ignorant post. There are secular countries as well that define marriage as a bond between a man and a woman. Also, christianity is not the only religion that defines marriage as such a bond. And as the other guy said, there is no universal definition. Some societies support polygamy for example.

I just wanted to clear that.

I see your point, let me rephrase what I typed. As far a the issue here in America is concerned where the Christian definition of marriage is prevalent. I didn't mean this as a world truth but an American Truth.

I didn't take offense to your post. It does sound rather biased now that I have reread it and feel I should make that correction.