Senjutsu Rasengan impact on susanoo

[adeshina365]

AlphaScythian is correct whether you like it or not folks. SM Rasengan is nothing for even a basic Susanoo.

 

[Retsu]

You're just happy to pick up on any excuse, but as i said there are tons of examples of severed chakra working.
Like susanoo separated from madara, or susanoo blade that tsunade has used against madara and many more.

As far as SM rasengan vs susanoo goes.

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Its not the type of damage to take susanoo down.

I actually agree with the fact that sm rasengan more than likely can't penetrate susanoo, although we don't actually know if it can't.

but I am adamant in saying that if kakashi would have been the recipient of that attack with Minato's arm still attached to his body, he would more than likely have been killed.

 

[-immortal-]

Regular rasengan cant even break rib sus
For naruto will rs and odama still cant
Susano is too much cant post pics on phone

 

[shelke]

Certain members will never admit that though.

So much for BSM being 10x BM, LMAO.

Honestly, I have yet to see the manga even remotely imply this x10 logic. Makes no sense when an unguarded individual can survive it now.

 

[Sennin of Logic]

Wow, you're getting desperate. Having to resort to shallow databook hype to prove your point.

Let me ask you, do you think that Sasuke has "god-like" speed? Do you think that the Yata Mirror is unbreakable?

LMAO at your second point. This post reeks of desperation.

Yes on all accounts. Sasuke is extremely fast hence, "God-like speed." Yes Yata mirror can tank anything that hits it, and yes sage art: massive ransengan can carve out a mountain. You just realize that you can't really counter me, so you're resorting to ad-homenim and trying to discredit some things about the databook.


Uh, no, that's exactly what happened in the anime, and I thought that might have been the case since the manga since we saw Naruto flying away from susanoo. Besides that, we've seen something only at the level of giant ransengan breaking the ribcage susanoo.

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Notice how a piece fell off? That attack is only giant ransengan level. Plus, in the anime, Madara literally punches the ransengan away. That fits quite well with the 2 panels in 560, so it's likely what Kishimoto had intended.

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There's no ransengan in that picture. No sign of an explosion either. That strongly indicates that it was interrupted by the susanoo. Susanoo never tanked it. Sorry, not desperate, just covering all angles.

 

[shadowcb]

I guess nobody read my post. I can understand why.

The rasengan is jutsu which requires the user to maintain the jutsu as it hits its target. If the user doesn't or can't then the energy created from the jutsu disperse and target doesn't receive the full power of the jutsu.

Here is a scene of Jiraiya using the rasengan properly -

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we see the rasengan drilling and grinding through the tree.

Here is scene of Naruto using the rasengan before he mastered it -

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we can see the results are different because at that time he couldn't maintain the rasengan as it hit the target.

Since the 4th can't use a rasengan at mid/long range when it hit Kakashi he would not have been able to maintain the jutsu.

 

[AlphaScythian]

For all Nardo/minato or rasengan fans.

I agree its often shown to explode lots of shit and all but it always fails to do any significant damage to any human or even a life form.

 

[shadowcb]

You're just happy to pick up on any excuse, but as i said there are tons of examples of severed chakra working.
Like susanoo separated from madara, or susanoo blade that tsunade has used against madara and many more.

As far as SM rasengan vs susanoo goes.

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Its not the type of damage to take susanoo down.

I disagree because the purpose to Naruto using the rasengan on those creates were to knock them in the area so the toads could take them out. That was a group battle.

 

[KidGamer65]

One of that size clearly isn't even going to do noticeable damage to a Ribcage.

 

[adeshina365]

Yes on all accounts. Sasuke is extremely fast hence, "God-like speed." Yes Yata mirror can tank anything that hits it, and yes sage art: massive ransengan can carve out a mountain. You just realize that you can't really counter me, so you're resorting to ad-homenim and trying to discredit some things about the databook.


Uh, no, that's exactly what happened in the anime, and I thought that might have been the case since the manga since we saw Naruto flying away from susanoo. Besides that, we've seen something only at the level of giant ransengan breaking the ribcage susanoo.

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Notice how a piece fell off? That attack is only giant ransengan level. Plus, in the anime, Madara literally punches the ransengan away. That fits quite well with the 2 panels in 560, so it's likely what Kishimoto had intended.

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There's no ransengan in that picture. No sign of an explosion either. That strongly indicates that it was interrupted by the susanoo. Susanoo never tanked it. Sorry, not desperate, just covering all angles.

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So Pain's summons can tank mountain busting attacks? That's good to know.

 

[shelke]

There is a Rasangan right on top of Susano'o rib cage. I can see it very clearly. Susanoo'o definitely tanked it quite easily.

 

[-immortal-]

Yes on all accounts. Sasuke is extremely fast hence, "God-like speed." Yes Yata mirror can tank anything that hits it, and yes sage art: massive ransengan can carve out a mountain. You just realize that you can't really counter me, so you're resorting to ad-homenim and trying to discredit some things about the databook.


Uh, no, that's exactly what happened in the anime, and I thought that might have been the case since the manga since we saw Naruto flying away from susanoo. Besides that, we've seen something only at the level of giant ransengan breaking the ribcage susanoo.

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Notice how a piece fell off? That attack is only giant ransengan level. Plus, in the anime, Madara literally punches the ransengan away. That fits quite well with the 2 panels in 560, so it's likely what Kishimoto had intended.

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There's no ransengan in that picture. No sign of an explosion either. That strongly indicates that it was interrupted by the susanoo. Susanoo never tanked it. Sorry, not desperate, just covering all angles.

As seen here sasuke can tank odamaa rasengan the poeer that a put into the attack was bjuu chakra counted
Sasukes susano eill be heaviy damaged with rasenshurime. Bit ca easily thank is eith v2 susano and further
Sasuke v1 susano also tanked black studf from obito to save naruto
Which is most likelky more powerfull

 

[Sennin of Logic]

You're just happy to pick up on any excuse, but as i said there are tons of examples of severed chakra working.
Like susanoo separated from madara, or susanoo blade that tsunade has used against madara and many more.

As far as SM rasengan vs susanoo goes.

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Its not the type of damage to take susanoo down.

Oh yes it is.

Tsunade's punches on the ground.

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Tsunade cracking susanoo.

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Minato's basic ransengan.

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[shadowcb]

For all Nardo/minato or rasengan fans.

I agree its often shown to explode lots of shit and all but it always fails to do any significant damage to any human or even a life form.

It has damaged/defeated several people. Kabuto, Kakazu, Pain (Naruto defeated ever Pain with a rasengan except Ghost Pain). I do agree that Kishi nerfed the rasengan. At least some of the time. The rasengan isn't the only jutsu that received that kind of treatment from Kishi.

 

[Retsu]

Honestly, I have yet to see the manga even remotely imply this x10 logic. Makes no sense when an unguarded individual can survive it now.

a severed arm separated from one's chakra system containing the remnants of a rasengan is next to nothing compared to getting hit with it while the user is still whole, kakashi did not take the full force and things could have been WAAAY different if it was a big ball version, and anyways BSM Naruto might even be able to break/crack a susanoo if he infuses this with senjutsu

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[-immortal-]

Oh yes it is.

Tsunade's punches on the ground.

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Tsunade cracking susanoo.

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Minato's basic ransengan.

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Dude as far as i know the ground is weaker then susano ??????

 

[adeshina365]

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It seems as though I was right the whole time XD

 

[shelke]

a severed arm separated from one's chakra system containing the remnants of a rasengan is next to nothing compared to getting hit with it while the user is still whole, kakashi did not take the full force and things could have been WAAAY different if it was a big ball version, and anyways BSM Naruto might even be able to break/crack a susanoo if he infuses this with senjutsu

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Possibly, but you have to realize that the Rasangan is already formed and henceforth, the Chakra already got kneaded for the technique. It all happened far too quickly as well for the Rasangan to have lost its intensity.

 

[AlphaScythian]

It has damaged/defeated several people. Kabuto, Kakazu, Pain (Naruto defeated ever Pain with a rasengan except Ghost Pain). I do agree that Kishi nerfed the rasengan. At least some of the time. The rasengan isn't the only jutsu that received that kind of treatment from Kishi.

Its not nerfed. This manga is always like this, all environment gets ****ed up, humans live, Tenpenchi *cough*
When it comes to killing rasengan cant do the job.

 

[Sennin of Logic]

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So Pain's summons can tank mountain busting attacks? That's good to know.

Those aren't massive ransengans, but I'll play along. First off, you call having a hole in your body tanked?! That's ludicrous! they were one-shotted! Summons were one-shotted, despite the fact that they can tank attacks from bijus.

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Sorry, but one-shotting summons is an incredible feat.

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It seems as though I was right the whole time XD

No you're not. Feats say otherwise.