Hashirama didn't have the power to kill Madara back then. When they were kids Hashirama was slightly stronger until Madara finally awakened his sharingan.
1. Madara already had his sharingan, but simply didn't show it until the clash. (he had been wanting to show Hashirama his sharingan, but he couldn't since it'd reveal who he was.)
2. Even at VOTE Hashirama didn't decide to kill Madara, until the very last Moment, where he said Hashirama didn't matter or something along those lines. Hashirama has always had the power to kill Madara, however him not doing it is what makes him strong. At Naruto and Sasuke's VOTE battle, Naruto possessed the power to kill Sasuke.. however, him not doing it is what made him surpass Hashirama, who ended up killing Madara.
3. Strong by little? lol alright, thats why Madara deemed it that they'd lose the battle simply because of the fact that Hashirama was stronger than him. Implying that Hashirama was strong enough to decide the fate of the battle.. despite you claiming he was only little bit weaker than Hashirama.
4. The level different between Hashirama and Madara was shown at VOTE.. When you need a tailed beast to help you take on somebody and stand a chance..and still lose.. kind of pretty much shows how inferior you are in front of that person without the tailed beast.
1. Madara already had his sharingan, but simply didn't show it until the clash. (he had been wanting to show Hashirama his sharingan, but he couldn't since it'd reveal who he was.)
2. Even at VOTE Hashirama didn't decide to kill Madara, until the very last Moment, where he said Hashirama didn't matter or something along those lines. Hashirama has always had the power to kill Madara, however him not doing it is what makes him strong. At Naruto and Sasuke's VOTE battle, Naruto possessed the power to kill Sasuke.. however, him not doing it is what made him surpass Hashirama, who ended up killing Madara.
Hashirama didn't want to but he was forced to which left him to near death.
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So no, Hashirama couldn't just kill Madara whenever he wanted
3. Strong by little? lol alright, thats why Madara deemed it that they'd lose the battle simply because of the fact that Hashirama was stronger than him. Implying that Hashirama was strong enough to decide the fate of the battle.. despite you claiming he was only little bit weaker than Hashirama.
Because the databook said by a little and lol guess what he did to hashirama.
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Madara pushed Hashirama to the point that he couldn't use sagemode anymore. So saying that Hashirama was able to choose the fate of battle is just biased.
4. The level different between Hashirama and Madara was shown at VOTE.. When you need a tailed beast to help you take on somebody and stand a chance..and still lose.. kind of pretty much shows how inferior you are in front of that person without the tailed beast.
Hashirama took away the beast from Madara and he still stood a chance against Hashirama with his buddah statue.
So yeah, it's not so black and white like you said it. How did Madara take care of the wood dragon, wood golem, and Buddah off screen time after Hashirama just finished removing Susanoo?
In fact, I don't know why you keep turning this into a Uchiha vs senju thing, this thread is not about that.
I know he has wood release but that's not the point. The point here is that senjus don't rely on wood release for recognition and the Uchihas don't always rely on the sharingan. Being expertise in taijutsu, genjutsu, and ninjutsu is very vague. Uchihas are also experts in ninjutsu, taijutsu, and especially genjutsu.
Uchiha rely on their sharingans more in comparison to any other power, because their sharingan makes them most capable. The only reason Senju don't rely on Mokuton is because they cannot use it, otherwise they would rely heavily on/and constantly use Mokuton because it makes them most capable. The point is that Yes, Uchiha do rely on their sharingan, and it's understandable for more Uchiha than less to rely on their sharingan rather than any other advantage, because their sharingan is what makes them most capable. Sharingan is most beneficial to them, so course of they use it most, and as a result are renowned for their sharingan use. Without their sharingan, they would have no choice but to be strong without them, just like the Senju have no choice but to be strong without Moktuon.
Hashirama didn't want to kill him until, the end. And he was nowhere near death. He would've been near death if things weren't under his control.. but guess what.. they were. Hashirama already showed him mercy before.. so yea he could've killed Madara whenever he wanted, he kind of already did it.. and if he had burnt his body.. Madara would've been GG forever.
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^^ That was a wood clone....
Because the databook said by a little and lol guess what he did to hashirama.
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Madara pushed Hashirama to the point that he couldn't use sagemode anymore. So saying that Hashirama was able to choose the fate of battle is just biased.
Databook, that calls Hashirama the God of Shinobi? the strongest of his time? that databook? Show me where in the databook it says Hashirama was stronger than Madara by only a little.. please do. Because had Kurama not been there with Madara, Hashirama would've put Madara's ass down without even the buddha. And its not bias, its pretty much stating a fact.
Hashirama took away the beast from Madara and he still stood a chance against Hashirama with his buddah statue.
So yeah, it's not so black and white like you said it. How did Madara take care of the wood dragon, wood golem, and Buddah off screen time after Hashirama just finished removing Susanoo?
Reread the fight.. Hashirama took Madara's Kurama and put it to sleep, and then he jumped off of the statue to face Madara normally. As I freaking said, Hashirama did not want to kill Madara, during that entire fight until the very end. So why in the blue hell would he try to go for killing blow, when he had no desire to?
But guess what happened, when Hashirama made up his mind on killing Madara?? He killed him..... that simple. So as I said, the entire situation was under Hashirama's control.
In fact, I don't know why you keep turning this into a Uchiha vs senju thing, this thread is not about that.
Uchihas inherited the strong spiritual energy and chakra of Indra. They're noted for their natural battle instincts and have a particular penchant for bukijutsu alongside Katon and other unique ninjutsu like Uchihagaeshi.
Mokotuon tipped the power balance in Senju's favour, otherwise, they were neck to neck and that was in Hashirama's era. As far as I know (bar Databook IV), Mokuton was only Hashirama's tech. Without it, the guy would be a cow-fodder with massive reserves (if you take his SM out of the equation, which seems to be a direct Mokuton extension in many ways).
Why even take Sharingan away from the Uchihas? It's a part of their DNA, their life-line. It's taking to taking Life Force away from the Uzumakis or Byakugan away from the Hyugas. It makes no sense to me.
Senju has so much potential to do anything. Since all those people we know of able to pull out monsterous strength & able to perform top/complexity jutsu at ease.
However there is none Uchiha up to date able to do anything without their eyes tech and none of them able to win their difficult fight without using their eye's ability.
Mokotuon tipped the power balance in Senju's favour, otherwise, they were neck to neck and that was in Hashirama's era. As far as I know (bar Databook IV), Mokuton was only Hashirama's tech. Without it, the guy would be a cow-fodder with massive reserves (if you take his SM out of the equation, which seems to be a direct Mokuton extension in many ways).
Why even take Sharingan away from the Uchihas? It's a part of their DNA, their life-line. It's taking to taking Life Force away from the Uzumakis or Byakugan away from the Hyugas. It makes no sense to me.
Mokuton is also part of Hashirama's DNA retard. Also without mokuton Hashirama would have learnt other jutsus. Fact is Uchihas relied on sharingan whilst the senju relied of a variety of skills
We have only seen one Senju used wood jutsu the First Hokage. To uses wood you must have water and earth chakra and be able to combine them to wood. We know the Second Hokage also used Water but not earth. So earth elemental chakra may be rare in Senju but water is common other wise more Senju should have earth affinity too increasing the chances of a noter wood user, but it never happen except ones in the First Hokage Tsunade GrandDaughter to the First Hokage did not inherit it.
OP I understand what you are trying to say but what your forgetting to mention( or maybe I just missed it) is the overall quality of said ninjutsu. While the Uchiha are mainly feared for their Sharingan. What makes/made them dangerous without it was the potency of their chakra.
Meaning even though every Uchiha was well versed in Katon. The quality of really any element or technique hits harder than that of a Senju. Senju had the duriablity took take the hits due to their innate stamina whereas other clan shinobi would get wiped out in shorter time.
Quality and potentcy of chakra VS durability and overall skill in various fields (Senju) coupling this with the Sharingan is what made the Uchiha the rivals of the Senju.
Mokuton doesn't play a part as only one shinobi in recorded history has ever been known to have it during the era of warring clans.(Hashirama)
Mokuton is also part of Hashirama's DNA retard. Also without mokuton Hashirama would have learnt other jutsus. Fact is Uchihas relied on sharingan whilst the senju relied of a variety of skills
The proof must be in your fanfiction then. Also, I never even claimed it wasn't, otherwise, all that Danzo juicing up his Sharingans to cut down the charge time wouldn't even make any sense if it wasn't a part of Hashirama's DNA. Not to mention Yamato's ability, which he gained solely through Hashirama's Dna as well. Boy, you sure showed me.
So, I know you tried but you are always so damn ironic ... and idiotic.
You didn't correct anything. Funny thing is that you didn't prove me wrong in anything. Name one thing you proved me wrong in, please do tell.
Itachi is an average Uchiha that awakened everything according to his power. Shishui is another average uchiha that would slaughter like Itachi. Hebi Sasuke during Madara's time would as a 16 year old would slaughter the whole clan yet he has a 3 tomoe.
Average Uchiha=Average Senju. None of them had the capability of killing off the other clan. Stupid.
.... :| rambling on stupid things again. No idea what you're talking about here too.
Says Uchiha are equal to Senjus. Call me biased off of an Uchiha with senju power on my profile.
It's funny how retarded you are. I've never seen a senju fapper as stupid as you are. You give them a bad name too.
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