Sasuke's teleportation "prep time"

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So, by your logic, you can just see a picture one way and jump to conclusions ? Nicely done. The pictures only allows us to measure DC, speed, durability, reactions, etc. The mechanics of the techniques cannot be explained by pictures with no words, saying that a technique has a drawback just because he closed his eye and not stating why, is just what we call "jumping to conclusions". What is ridiculous is jumping to conclusions by just seeing a picture from the manga, the manga didn't even imply the reason why he closed his eye, let alone directly state, you're just taking your (bad) interpretation from manga panels as fact. 1. He closed it willingly, it didn't close by itself. 2. It wasn't after he used teleportation repeatedly, it was after Madara left. 3. Madara wasn't there, so he wasn't in combat. Again, you're jumping to conclusions.

And again, chakra was never stated to be the reason he closed his eyes.



Yes, because your conclusion from seeing a couple of manga panels doesn't mean shit if the manga hasn't proven you right. the fact is, manga NEVER stated the reason he closed his eye, I could say he closed it for the Lol's and who would be right ? Me or you ? Let me answer for you, NEITHER, because the MANGA (which is btw > your opinion) hasn't confirmed either to be right, they are both bad interpretations of manga panels, the manga needs to state for it to happen, saying ANYTHING without the confirmation from the manga itself is fanfiction.

WTF ? Naruto explicitly stated that she never saw that jutsu, in fact it was in the title of the chapter. Anyways, it was just an example.

:vincent: what proof ? You didn't give any proof, your "proof" is "Sasuke closed his eyes, so I think he closed it because his jutsu has a cooldown", I don't need to give any proof, I didn't make any ridiculous statements on why he closed his eyes, I only said that manga didn't state that he closed it because of the cooldown, you were the one who didn't provide any proof until now and instead takes your shitty interpretation of a scan as fact, the reason he closed his eyes was NEVER explained by the manga itself, nor was it IMPLIED that it was because of that specific jutsu, the only weakness the manga has confirmed till date is the limited range, no other weakness is confirmed, you're just jumping to conclusions.

@Bold : WHAT THE **** ? Do you even hear yourself ? you're basically saying "The manga has shown Sasuke closing his eye, so I THINK that it is because his jutsu has a cooldown, so what if the manga hasn't stated that my theory is right ? It hasn't stated to be wrong either, prove that the manga didn't state it", That's the most stupid thing I have ever heard, if the manga never stated something, then how the hell am I suppose to prove it ? You're the one saying that it did, you're the one who needs to prove it, not me. It's clear to you because you made that BS up. Unless you come with solid proof that it has a cooldown, don't bother replying to me.
i didnt need to read your whole post to know what it is about. i say the manga show'd it you say it doesnt. now that we put that aside we know that it is no longer a fact the the manga didnt show sasuke had a problem.

lol now you have to resort to cursing because you cant answer a simply question, like a child.

we have evidence that supports what we are saying. you have yet to answer our question. if your not going to answer the question or provide proof that we are wrong that gtfo because your just back tracking to "the manga doesnt state it. i dont see that so your wrong." whiny -_-

FACT: sasuke closed his eye

logical reasons.

people with dojutsus HAVE closed their eye due to strain
people with dojutsus HAVE closed their eye to restore chakra/stop using up chakra
what some people are saying is that sasuke has to restore/recharge his eye or its tech

ANSWER THE QUESTION?!?! Why did sasuke logically close his eye? I dont know means you have no answer thus you can not disprove our observation on the events.

The manga never stated that shows that again you have no answer but do not want to believe what we are saying

Saying that our interpretations are shitty just makes you look bad honestly

did you read my posts? i said sasuke closed his eye and based on examples of him and other sharingan users who closed there eyes during battle or a break it could ONLY likely mean one of a few things. it is a fact stated and shown by the manga that kakashi closed his eye to save chakra, sasuke closed his ms(or ems) eye due to strain, the last one is something people came up. I have used evidence and backed up all of my claims. you are the only person to not back up anything you said. so just because kishi never out right said it but he hinted at out(or flat out shown it) doesnt prove me wrong, it just shows how right i am
 
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Or your Sasuke hate/Naruto wank is clouding your judgement, because every time I see your posts, you're either bashing or trying to downgrade Sasuke, just like you're doing now.
Im arguing manga facts with someone who thinks manga pictures have no relevance to the explanation of jutsus or the story, please man you look really bad. Arguing against people exxagerating the manga in favor of a certain character doesnt make me a basher.
 

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Why do i want him to have disadvantages on his eye so bad? Im only debating with people who are saying he doesnt when the manga made it clear he does. I could care less if sasuke could teleport 100 times in a row, but that obviously isnt the case.

People like you are to hung up on naruto vs sasuke so you always think people are trying to make him look bad.
bold. thats the thing, the manga hasnt stated anything whatsoever nor has it made anything clear. its actually done the opposite. so manga is not on your side one bit.

i dont give a crap about naruto vs sasuke, i just simply asked you a simple question, thats all.
 

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i didnt need to read your whole post to know what it is about. i say the manga show'd it you say it doesnt. now that we put that aside we know that it is no longer a fact the the manga didnt show sasuke had a problem.

lol now you have to resort to cursing because you cant answer a simply question, like a child.

we have evidence that supports what we are saying. you have yet to answer our question. if your not going to answer the question or provide proof that we are wrong that gtfo because your just back tracking to "the manga doesnt state it. i dont see that so your wrong." whiny -_-

FACT: sasuke closed his eye

logical reasons.

people with dojutsus HAVE closed their eye due to strain
people with dojutsus HAVE closed their eye to restore chakra/stop using up chakra
what some people are saying is that sasuke has to restore/recharge his eye or its tech

ANSWER THE QUESTION?!?! Why did sasuke logically close his eye? I dont know means you have no answer thus you can not disprove our observation on the events.

The manga never stated that shows that again you have no answer but do not want to believe what we are saying

Saying that our interpretations are shitty just makes you look bad honestly

did you read my posts? i said sasuke closed his eye and based on examples of him and other sharingan users who closed there eyes during battle or a break it could ONLY likely mean one of a few things. it is a fact stated and shown by the manga that kakashi closed his eye to save chakra, sasuke closed his ms(or ems) eye due to strain, the last one is something people came up. I have used evidence and backed up all of my claims. you are the only person to not back up anything you said. so just because kishi never out right said it but he hinted at out(or flat out shown it) doesnt prove me wrong, it just shows how right i am
and thats all that matters.
 

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bold. thats the thing, the manga hasnt stated anything whatsoever nor has it made anything clear. its actually done the opposite. so manga is not on your side one bit.

i dont give a crap about naruto vs sasuke, i just simply asked you a simple question, thats all.
yet we are saying the manga does show it. answer my question then
 

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bold. thats the thing, the manga hasnt stated anything whatsoever nor has it made anything clear. its actually done the opposite. so manga is not on your side one bit.

i dont give a crap about naruto vs sasuke, i just simply asked you a simple question, thats all.
So sasuke closed his eye for no reason? He has failed to escape the enemies grasp with his teleport 3 times aswell.

Last chapter he also said he had to get his eye ready, some people think it was for ameratsu yet he has NEVER prepped to use it before, and infact used it 90% of the time instantly with no forewarning at all.

There are quite obvious drawbacks to his eye which have yet to be refuted

And u mention naruto while in sasuke threads or vise versa every single day, you obviously do care.
 

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So, by your logic, you can just see a picture one way and jump to conclusions ? Nicely done. The pictures only allows us to measure DC, speed, durability, reactions, etc. The mechanics of the techniques cannot be explained by pictures with no words, saying that a technique has a drawback just because he closed his eye and not stating why, is just what we call "jumping to conclusions". What is ridiculous is jumping to conclusions by just seeing a picture from the manga, the manga didn't even imply the reason why he closed his eye, let alone directly state, you're just taking your (bad) interpretation from manga panels as fact. 1. He closed it willingly, it didn't close by itself. 2. It wasn't after he used teleportation repeatedly, it was after Madara left. 3. Madara wasn't there, so he wasn't in combat. Again, you're jumping to conclusions.

And again, chakra was never stated to be the reason he closed his eyes.



Yes, because your conclusion from seeing a couple of manga panels doesn't mean shit if the manga hasn't proven you right. the fact is, manga NEVER stated the reason he closed his eye, I could say he closed it for the Lol's and who would be right ? Me or you ? Let me answer for you, NEITHER, because the MANGA (which is btw > your opinion) hasn't confirmed either to be right, they are both bad interpretations of manga panels, the manga needs to state for it to happen, saying ANYTHING without the confirmation from the manga itself is fanfiction.

WTF ? Naruto explicitly stated that she never saw that jutsu, in fact it was in the title of the chapter. Anyways, it was just an example.

:vincent: what proof ? You didn't give any proof, your "proof" is "Sasuke closed his eyes, so I think he closed it because his jutsu has a cooldown", I don't need to give any proof, I didn't make any ridiculous statements on why he closed his eyes, I only said that manga didn't state that he closed it because of the cooldown, you were the one who didn't provide any proof until now and instead takes your shitty interpretation of a scan as fact, the reason he closed his eyes was NEVER explained by the manga itself, nor was it IMPLIED that it was because of that specific jutsu, the only weakness the manga has confirmed till date is the limited range, no other weakness is confirmed, you're just jumping to conclusions.

@Bold : WHAT THE **** ? Do you even hear yourself ? you're basically saying "The manga has shown Sasuke closing his eye, so I THINK that it is because his jutsu has a cooldown, so what if the manga hasn't stated that my theory is right ? It hasn't been stated to be wrong either, prove that the manga didn't state it", That's the most stupid thing I have ever heard, if the manga never stated something, then how the hell am I supposed to prove it ? You're the one saying that it did, you're the one who needs to prove it, not me. It's clear to you because you made that BS up. Unless you come with solid proof that it has a cooldown, don't bother replying to me.
look i have no problem if you dont want to believe it but dont get mad at me because i have manga scans to support me and you have nothing. if you cant prove anything then admit it instead of trying to insult someone . . . . .:vincent:
 

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The "prep time" is obviously negligible. It wasn't even remotely implied in the manga that the jutsu has a significant prep time, so I don't know how the base came the conclusion that it does.(then again, most people stink at reading the manga, so no surprises there....)
 

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Didn't the Manga , make it clear that sasuke needed to close his eye.

sasuke is telling naruto to not let his guard down but is closing his eye. weird if you ask me,
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his rinnegan tech was the only thing going for them at the time

so much for keeping his guard up, closing his left eye staring at the ground.
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it has a cool down. we'll see
 
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i didnt need to read your whole post to know what it is about. i say the manga show'd it you say it doesnt. now that we put that aside we know that it is no longer a fact the the manga didnt show sasuke had a problem.

lol now you have to resort to cursing because you cant answer a simply question, like a child.

we have evidence that supports what we are saying. you have yet to answer our question. if your not going to answer the question or provide proof that we are wrong that gtfo because your just back tracking to "the manga doesnt state it. i dont see that so your wrong." whiny -_-

FACT: sasuke closed his eye

logical reasons.

people with dojutsus HAVE closed their eye due to strain
people with dojutsus HAVE closed their eye to restore chakra/stop using up chakra
what some people are saying is that sasuke has to restore/recharge his eye or its tech

ANSWER THE QUESTION?!?! Why did sasuke logically close his eye? I dont know means you have no answer thus you can not disprove out observation on the events.

The manga never stated that shows that again you have no answer but do not want to believe what we are saying

Saying that our interpretations are shitty just makes you look bad honestly

did you read my posts? i said sasuke closed his eye and based on examples of him and other sharingan users who closed there eyes during battle or a break it could ONLY likely mean one of a few things. it is a fact stated and shown by the manga that kakashi closed his eye to save chakra, sasuke closed his ms(or ems) eye due to strain, the last one is something people came up. I have used evidence and backed up all of my claims. you are the only person to not back up anything you said
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How many times do I need to say it ? THE MANGA DIDN'T SHOW SHIT.

WHAT EVIDENCE ? Sasuke closes his eyes, yes, and then you say it was because his jutsu has a drawback when Manga has never confirmed such BS, YOU DIDN'T PROVE SHIT, WHAT YOU NEED TO PROVE IS WHERE THE MANGA HAS CONFIRMED THAT THE REASON HE CLOSED HIS EYE WAS BECAUSE HIS JUTSU HAS A DRAWBACK, and NOT that he closed his eye, because the MANGA hasn't given a reason to why he closed his eye to date, so YOU need to show me where the MANGA HAS CONFIRMED THIS IF YOU ARE SAYING THAT YOU HAVE "EVIDENCE" FROM THE MANGA.

Yes, it is a fact that he closed his eye, your "logical" reasons that are nothing but speculation that is NOT backed up by the manga, instead it is backed up by your shitty interpretation.

Ask Kishimoto, not me. He closed his eye, Fact. Your theory is not supported by the manga, Fact. The Manga has never stated the reason, Fact. You are jumping to conclusions, Fact. There's NOTHING TO DISPROVE BECAUSE YOU HAVEN'T PROVED JACK SHIT. Exactly, you just said "Our observation", and what you don't get is that your observations DON'T MEAN SHIT unless the manga proves it.

What you are saying is BS, the manga is what matters, YOUR opinions don't mean SHIT. If the manga hasn't stated ANYTHING, then you CAN'T jump to conclusions and take them as fact.

Your interpretation is shitty because the manga has NEVER proved anything of the sort, unless the manga proves it or you are the one who writes the manga, your interpretations don't mean jack shit here, they're just assumptions.

I did read that wall of BS, but you clearly didn't read my post, which you just admitted in the beginning of your post. Kakashi closed his eye to save chakra and it was stated why he closed it, manga has never stated why Sasuke closed his, comparing Kakashi with Sasuke and their respective eyes do not prove anything here, one situation doesn't correlate to another just because they are/were both Dojutsu users, MS was explicitly stated to cause strain, EMS Sasuke never closed it due to strain, , I don't even know where you took that from,nor would it make sense as its main purpose is the use without strain, anyway, Sasuke's new eye was NEVER stated to cause strain, you are just speculating here. You backed up ? So you call those "logical reasons" backing up with evidenc ? you call comparing Sasuke's Rinnegan to Kakashi's Sharingan and Sasuke's MS backing up with evidence ? Wtf should I back up ?? I said that the manga never stated the reason he closed his eye, which it didn't, YOU are supposed to tell me where it stated the reason, YOU are supposed to give me proof, which you didn't, everything you are doing is speculating and taking your speculation as manga facts, YOU came up with ridiculous claims, YOU have the burden of proof, YOU haven't backed up any of your claims, Sasuke closed his eye, yes, and you cae up with some fanfic reasons, YOU DIDN'T BACK ANY OF THEM UP WITH EVIDENCE.

Didn't the Manga , make it clear that sasuke needed to close his eye.

sasuke is telling naruto to not let his guard down but is closing his eye. weird if you ask me,
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his rinnegan tech was the only thing going for them at the time

so much for keeping his guard up, closing his left eye staring at the ground.
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it has a cool down. we'll see
He has his eye closed in that scan ? Yes. does anything in that scan state or imply the reason he needed to close his eye ? No. That's what it is all about, the manga hasn't stated a reason, so any reasons with no evidence from the manga is fanfiction.
 
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You didnt disprove anything, and sasuke used ameratsu instantly on obito aswell. Sasukes eye drained him to the point he had to rest his eye at the first possible opportunity. And no, sasuke hasnt teleported when he was grabbed 3 times now, that leads me to believe he cant, unless you believe everytime sasuke fails its because of plot:rolleyes: typical sasky fan
Obito said "I sensed you storing chakra in your left eye" instant right? he used a "verb" (take notice of word part) "ing" - process of. Had that been instant, the black shit wouldn't have gotten in the way.

But you may be right about him being unable to teleport away from Kaguya. I think it's because they can't do anything when she's touching them, but that's no restriction on his eye ability, that's just Kaguya's power
 

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This is what gets me the most.
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sasuke was getting grabbed into another dimension, what was stopping him from using his so called teleportation tech with no cooldowns?

He literally just looks back. somethings fishy about his tech, i mean, he's in the worst situation, about to get sent to another dimension, but he just lets himself go. wow. :/
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So sasuke closed his eye for no reason? He has failed to escape the enemies grasp with his teleport 3 times aswell.

Last chapter he also said he had to get his eye ready, some people think it was for ameratsu yet he has NEVER prepped to use it before, and infact used it 90% of the time instantly with no forewarning at all.

There are quite obvious drawbacks to his eye which have yet to be refuted

And u mention naruto while in sasuke threads or vise versa every single day, you obviously do care.
*sigh* not this again

why did he close his eye? we dont know why but seeing as how sasuke has been using the eye in battle and it hasnt closed nor has he hinted about needing to cool off implies that he was preserving his strenght because madara was in kamui land and sasuke had zero reason to keep his eye open. he doesnt have limitless chakra so he wont waste it needlessly. if you say it was because of a cooldown then you need to prove it because that wasnt stated. it could also be that the eye closes when not in battle, so many reasons but the manga hasnt stated anyone so you cant say its cooldown esp when sasuke hasnt shown to need to rest it while fighting, very simple really. so he did not escape kaguya, that means it needs a cooldown or prep? you realise how bad that logic is?

he wanted to get his eye ready to use amaterasu which he did use next page so yes people are indeed right. wtf? you keep stating amaterasu hasnt been shown to need prep but it actually has. against obito he prepped it as obito stated sasuke was focusing his chakra, against raikage he prepped it. its basic knowledge. heck look here carefully

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as you can see, itachi prepped his, look at his hand signs, its similar to when sasuke prepped it there. he was getting his eye ready for amaterasu and not his teleportation, this should be obvious but you just like ignoring manga evidence.

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he built up chakra there as obito says. on the other hand all the times sasuke has used his s/t jutsu, he never once prepped it as the op shows. honestly if you ignore all this evidences then i wont know what to say anymore but just know that manga is not on your side.

there are no drawbacks as of now and those points has easily been refuted but you chose to ignore it and just regurgitate the same argument.

when do i mention naruto? i only do that naruto fanboys bash sasuke.
 

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Obito said "I sensed you storing chakra in your left eye" instant right? he used a "verb" (take notice of word part) "ing" - process of. Had that been instant, the black shit wouldn't have gotten in the way.

But you may be right about him being unable to teleport away from Kaguya. I think it's because they can't do anything when she's touching them, but that's no restriction on his eye ability, that's just Kaguya's power
Yet that ameratsu went off the second obito took his mask off, sasuke obviously didnt prep it.
 

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The "prep time" is obviously negligible. It wasn't even remotely implied in the manga that the jutsu has a significant prep time, so I don't know how the base came the conclusion that it does.(then again, most people stink at reading the manga, so no surprises there....)
true talk, honestly bro i find it very shocking. they are basically creating their own manga fact
 
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