Sasuke's real speed
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Uchihajin Sasuke
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Sasuke >> Naruto in speed
Sasuke > SM Naruto in speed, because sage mode does not give you a powerful sunshin like Ay's V2 raiton shroud.
Avinash012
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No , Bro , Sasuke is nowhere near Ay v1's level...
Sharingan can predict movements that's y Sasuke managed to dodge that attack (Ofcourse need considerable speed) ...
During vote fight 2T Sasuke struggled alot to keepup with Naruto and the same Sasuke managed to avoid every single attack of Naruto after geting 3t ...
Manga never stated that sharingan can increase speed but the same Sasuke managed to stomp Naruto bcoz he can predict Naruto's moves in advance.....
Avinash012
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@ Bold: Plz Try to avoid that kind of words ......
How Sasuke manged to keepup with vote Naruto ...? : Any logical explination
SAsuke can't dodge fast attacks if can't read/predict the movements (Manga fact)
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Uchihajin Sasuke
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Since when was Hebi Sasuke and part one Sasuke the same? Hebi Sasuke is a master sunshin user, and one of the the fastest characters in the beginning of Shippuuden, and as time progressed he only got even faster.
Avinash012
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That is not the point here ..the same Sasuke got raped by same Naruto untill 3t and outmatched Naruto without any increase in speed right after geting 3t : Manga fact ...
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Naruto can't dodge Rikage / Bee's attacks as long as he can't predict thire movents...
I know that , but he is nowhere near Rikage's V1 level ...He managed to dodge Rikage's and Bee's attack bcoz he can predict thire movents ...simple as that...
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EternalFlame
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Don't let people fool you.
Base Sasuke is one of the fastest base characters in the series. Even Kishimoto described it as 'godlike' Look at his speed when you realize he doesn't have gates, Bijuu, lightning armor and other Jutsu to boost his speed.
Base Sasuke is one of the fastest base characters in the series. Even Kishimoto described it as 'godlike' Look at his speed when you realize he doesn't have gates, Bijuu, lightning armor and other Jutsu to boost his speed.
Uchihajin Sasuke
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Sasuke was keeping up with Ay who was even faster than Bee, and the sharingan precog gave him the edge.
Simply put, Sasuke speed = Ay V1
Sasuke speed + reflexes = edges out Ay's V1
This is manga fact as Sasuke kept up with him until he used his reflex/insight of his sharingan to edge him out by chidoring first.
I don't have to convince a hater nardard like you anyways.
Avinash012
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Everyone uses thire chakra to boost thire speed regardless of the type of Tech....
Keeping up with Ay doesn't make him on par with Ay. In a foot race, base Ay would still shit all over Sasuke. You are confused because it's CQC and all Sasuke has to do is move a limb to dodge. Even then, he got caught in several attacks that would have ended him, but was saved by his susanoo/gaara's sand. I agree that Sasuke's reflexes+pre cog = V1 Ays reflexes.
Ay never actually showcased speed in that fight.
Avinash012
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U have any Idea what u r talking about...?
Sasuke can't even react to Rikage's V1 speed without activating sharingan...
Iam a hater and fanboy & what about u....?
U can't even debate without basing Naruto & me , yet u r calling me a hater...?
Sasuke can't keep up with Rikage that's y he is forced to use Susanoo with amaterasu armor against Rikage in the first ....
Can u explain Y the same Sasuke that managed to dodge Bee's attack, can't keep up with Bee movements b4 that incident...?
Sasuke keepup with Rikage...?
He dodged Rikage's attack only once in that fight & yet u r claimng that Sasuke can keepup with him...Typical fanboy logic...
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Exactly.
People confuse foot speed with cqc ability.
A boxer would defeat athlete in a fight; and athelte would take hits despite being faster.
An athlete would defeat fighter in foot race.
Simple as that.
A has mainly movement speed rather than striking multiple times; he uses one-shot linear movements to take down opponents; not unorthodox movements from different directions.
That's the difference between him and Bee; keeping up with Bee is much harder than keeping up with A; Bee is slower; but his movement gives him the edge of being unpredictable. Humans can cross the roads while cars are moving; does that mean we are faster? No it is because cars follow a linear pattern from an anticipated distance; A's fighting style is more or less like that.
Uchihajin Sasuke
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Sasuke is a speed powerhouse not Naruto, and this is implied by Kishi several times.
Unlike Nardy, he doesn't go around begging to kurama to boost his speed.
Sasuke doesn't have the habit of turning off sharingan unless his chakra is extremely low, so you can't speculate his speed based off of that. The fact is he was keeping up with V1 easily, and as soon as he got closer his reflexes kicked in to edge out Ay.
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Avinash012
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What does it has to do with the argument...?
For U r kind info Iam a fanboy of Hashirama, u can clearly see that beneath my name & my other fav's are Itachi & Minato that's it, Iam not a fan of Naruto , I don't care even if u base him...
Sasuke just dodged Rikage's attack only one time that is bcoz of 3t sharingan...Sasuke never managed to react to rikage's attack other than that..
Yes I can easily say that , See
2t Sasuke can't even defend himself from Naruto and the same Sasuke & he keep up with Naruto ...Yet , 3 tom Sasuke managed to dodge and attack Naruto...u can clearly see the dif B/W Sasuke without Sharingan & 3t from that fight...
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Sasuke is faster than V1 Ae and Bee. He's faster than SM Naruto and is fully capable of keeping up with KCM without a large Chakra supply for better Body Flicker, as this technique works in conjunction with how much chakra is invested to cover so and so distance. At foot-speed level, he is one of the three fastest individuals in the entire manga. The other two would be Itachi and Minato. This base be damned.
TrollingSage
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TrollingSage
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Yea being able to react to an attack doesnt mean you're faster than the attacker, especially if you have a fancy pair of eyes that predicts attacks. Naruto reacted to 3rd Raikage, is he faster than him? Minato also reacted to v1 Obito and blocked his kick. Is Minato faster than v1 Juubito?