Sasuke's PS size

[BlinkST]

Doubt it as all it requires is a bit of common sense. Given that one is MS without any further mutation and the other is a full Rinnegan mutation.

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You must be joking. Attaining Obito's eye has nothing to do with Madara's own eyes being "mutated", as only Obito's eye can access Obito's time-space to even begin with. Madara has no time-space jutsu of his own that we know of, thus, he's not in a situation like Obito v. Kaguya where he can simply sync his time-space jutsu with the enemy's and enter their territory.

Madara seemed to be incapable of using any Sharingan techs when he attained the Juubi.

Or he utterly abandoned use of those jutsu when he got some new toys to play with. There is zero evidence that attaining Shinju or Rinnegan, cuts off existing ocular powers.

 

[AlphaMaleLion]

No way, Look how small it is compared to Madara's PS

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[shelke]

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You must be joking. Attaining Obito's eye has nothing to do with Madara's own eyes being "mutated", as only Obito's eye can access Obito's time-space to even begin with. Madara has no time-space jutsu of his own that we know of, thus, he's not in a situation like Obito v. Kaguya where he can simply sync his time-space jutsu with the enemy's and enter their territory.

Or he utterly abandoned use of those jutsu when he got some new toys to play with. There is zero evidence that attaining Shinju or Rinnegan, cuts off existing ocular powers.

I really don't have time for this nonsense: if you are apt enough to read, then you would know that your scan has absolutely nothing to do with what I stated. It's literally useless to this argument.

I am and was, still talking about EMS; his own mutation and his own arsenal and the capability of his own Rinnegan to revert back to EMS or, at the very least, allow him the luxury of its technique's usage.

You not only completely missed the argument of the first paragraph, but your entire argument is still and was bereft of evidence that it doesn't cut off the technique usage of the Rinnegan mutation itself - Madara's own EMS techs. Read it very carefully this time.

If you have any evidence, then kindly show me. But trust me, I am fully aware that you don't have any.

 

[shelke]

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Am I talking to a stone-cold wall here? Hogoromo never gave Sasuke Senjutsu chakra. If he did, then he would be capable of using Sage of the six paths mode. Which part of this is not getting through to you?

All Modes are different. Yet the process of Senjutsu Chakra is still the same. What are you going to tell me next? Sage acquires some kind of more powerful Natural Energy? DSM is different, Hashirama's SM is different, and so is the Frog Sage Mode. Yet, the Senjutsu chakra kneading and the process of balancing it remains the same; meaning Senjutsu Chakra remains the same within the system. I am not interested in your c*ck and bull stories, when all modes are unique with completely different skill-set. The output of Senjutsu chakra isn't the same as the Senjutsu within the system. That doesn't mean that the process is somehow different. This is the end of the manga and still you are incapable of understanding this.

Kabuto's mode allows him to expel pure NE in excess within his system for main techniques and he actually converts it into Light for White Rage and Life for Inorganic Transmigration. Can Naruto do that even in RSM? Naruto in Frog Sage Mode has the capability of merging with the frogs to use techniques in union. Can the rest do that? Wow, Naruto flies and has a different skill set. We have never seen that before, obviously. So that means the mode is so different. You don't say? TSBs are a result of RSM? Fascinating.

I literally gave you the Databook statement, and yet, here are you are. Still at it. Let's play this your way then; show me a page that showed that Naruto's BM avatar went through any alteration even while he was using Sage of the Six Paths mode. That horns argument is still baseless and a product of self-serving interpretation. Just like your JJ Madara argument.

Oh boy. Sage's Senjutsu allows for the knowledge that goes beyond the threshold of ordinary. Volume and time are both interrelated in Senjutsu, no matter which Senjutsu it is. None of your points have made any decent revelation that would put Kakashi's PS above EMS Madara and Sasuke's.

I asked for yes and no, so, I am not even interested in reading your pointless two paragraphs. Looks like that's a no. Good one with that Paths and EMS comparison when Madara was using Rinnegan techs left and right.

 

[UchihasRightfulHeir]

Madara can control the size of his PS. Therefore Susanoo size can be controlled. Sasuke can make his Susanoo Full Madara size, Anytime he wants.

 

[itachithelord]

People think his PS is smaller than Madara's or bigger. They are the same size. The only difference is Sasuke's PS is skinnier, and has wings, while Madara's is fatter with semi-wings. I saw the Storm 4 gameplay of both and I noticed that.

Why does size even matter ? Susano is just a manifestation of chakra , so more chakra = huge susano ..

 

[KidGamer65]

Am I talking to a stone-cold wall here? Hogoromo never gave Sasuke Senjutsu chakra. If he did, then he would be capable of using Sage of the six paths mode. Which part of this is not getting through to you?

All Modes are different. Yet the process of Senjutsu Chakra is still the same. What are you going to tell me next? Sage acquires some kind of more powerful Natural Energy? DSM is different, Hashirama's SM is different, and so is the Frog Sage Mode. Yet, the Senjutsu chakra kneading and the process of balancing it remains the same; meaning Senjutsu Chakra remains the same within the system. I am not interested in your c*ck and bull stories, when all modes are unique with completely different skill-set. The output of Senjutsu chakra isn't the same as the Senjutsu within the system. That doesn't mean that the process is somehow different. This is the end of the manga and still you are incapable of understanding this.

Kabuto's mode allows him to expel pure NE in excess within his system for main techniques and he actually converts it into Light for White Rage and Life for Inorganic Transmigration. Can Naruto do that even in RSM? Naruto in Frog Sage Mode has the capability of merging with the frogs to use techniques in union. Can the rest do that? Wow, Naruto flies and has a different skill set. We have never seen that before, obviously. So that means the mode is so different. You don't say? TSBs are a result of RSM? Fascinating.

I literally gave you the Databook statement, and yet, here are you are. Still at it. Let's play this your way then; show me a page that showed that Naruto's BM avatar went through any alteration even while he was using Sage of the Six Paths mode. That horns argument is still baseless and a product of self-serving interpretation. Just like your JJ Madara argument.

Oh boy. Sage's Senjutsu allows for the knowledge that goes beyond the threshold of ordinary. Volume and time are both interrelated in Senjutsu, no matter which Senjutsu it is. None of your points have made any decent revelation that would put Kakashi's PS above EMS Madara and Sasuke's.

I asked for yes and no, so, I am not even interested in reading your pointless two paragraphs. Looks like that's a no. Good one with that Paths and EMS comparison when Madara was using Rinnegan techs left and right.

Hagoromo gave his chakra to Naruto and Sasuke. That's it. The abilities only manifested different in the recipients. There is no "He gave Naruto some special chakra that he didn't give Sasuke". Please get that thought out your head, do me a favor, and read the Manga.

Once again. Why in the hell are you mentioning toad, Snake, and Hashirama's Sage Mode when Rikudo's Senjutsu Chakra is completely different? Something I've already shown. You've just repeated the same horseshit but with more unnecessary words than before.

Don't care about BM Naruto's Avatar first of all. Have already proven that Sasuke's PS changed. You not replying to it is just another concession. Not to mention his Avatar was Bijuu Sized before, then it grew to Mountain Sized after getting the chakra. Senjutsu Chakra did not change the size of Naruto's Avatar. Senjutsu chakra did not change the appearance of Sasuke's Susanoo. Yet Hagoromo's chakra did. That simple.

Bold refers to Naruto's mode. Not people who have only gotten a fraction of Hagoromo's power. This paragraph is another repeat of another defeated point.

Bold is pretty much a concession. Once again, you've failed to prove your point. You seem to be good at that. You are doing nothing but wasting my time, another thing you seem to be good at since it seems it's out of your capability to prove the nonsense claims you make. Don't expect another reply, and while you're at it, save yourself some time and stop replying to my posts, cause you won't get a reply. Enough of my brain cells have died already arguing with you.

 

[shelke]

Hagoromo gave his chakra to Naruto and Sasuke. That's it. The abilities only manifested different in the recipients. There is no "He gave Naruto some special chakra that he didn't give Sasuke". Please get that thought out your head, do me a favor, and read the Manga.

Once again. Why in the hell are you mentioning toad, Snake, and Hashirama's Sage Mode when Rikudo's Senjutsu Chakra is completely different? Something I've already shown. You've just repeated the same horseshit but with more unnecessary words than before.

Don't care about BM Naruto's Avatar first of all. Have already proven that Sasuke's PS changed. You not replying to it is just another concession. Not to mention his Avatar was Bijuu Sized before, then it grew to Mountain Sized after getting the chakra. Senjutsu Chakra did not change the size of Naruto's Avatar. Senjutsu chakra did not change the appearance of Sasuke's Susanoo. Yet Hagoromo's chakra did. That simple.

Bold refers to Naruto's mode. Not people who have only gotten a fraction of Hagoromo's power. This paragraph is another repeat of another defeated point.

Bold is pretty much a concession. Once again, you've failed to prove your point. You seem to be good at that. You are doing nothing but wasting my time, another thing you seem to be good at since it seems it's out of your capability to prove the nonsense claims you make. Don't expect another reply, and while you're at it, save yourself some time and stop replying to my posts, cause you won't get a reply. Enough of my brain cells have died already arguing with you.

I am going to keep this very short:

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You are the one stating that Senjutsu is different across all SMs, when it's the training that makes the output different. Do everyone a favour and go back and read this time. It's a bit embarrassing and pointless now.

You didn't do or prove squat other than your own terrible understanding of the images. Your claim is hardly something that hinges upon facts; your tediously foolish clamours on being right. I am still not impressed. BM avatar is pivotal here. You don't agree? Too bad, as it seems to be a perfunctory habit for you.

Yes, he did acquire the sage's Senjutsu, just like Obito and Madara. They were never gifted any modes. I even gave a scan for it. Senjutsu chakra gives a heightened mental state. That's the crux of it. You don't agree again? I don't think this pesky argument is worrisome for anyone.

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Not really. Wouldn't be the first time you read something and claimed it's something else. The burden of proof is still on you. Show me pages where it's even implied. Trust me, some of us are better at picking general "interpretations and comprehension" facts out of the manga. No offense.

Let's not talk about losing brain cells here. You seem to be a natural in that department, if one recalls those scientific claims. You don't want to tread down that road, as I can do the name calling better than your advanced vocabulary of 25 words.

 

[Project Tyskuomi]

I think they are both fat if you look on chapter 687 pg 9 it doesn't look skinny.

 

[Project Tyskuomi]

Madara's PS has more damage than Sasuke's. Sasuke's Sussanoo got wrecked to Gaara's Sand jutsu whereas Madara dismantled that shit easily Try again.

Sasuke wasn't that strong at the time and he only had ms. Madara couldy use ps when he had ems so yea.

 

[BlinkST]

I am and was, still talking about EMS; his own mutation and his own arsenal and the capability of his own Rinnegan to revert back to EMS or, at the very least, allow him the luxury of its technique's usage.

You're trying to switch subjects after getting called out for your hilarious reasoning that nabbing Obito's eye (To access his exclusive time-space) is somehow indicative that Madara's ocular powers were cut-off by becoming Shinju's jin. Now you're talking about him using the EMS's powers with Rinnegan. Hello?

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You must be joking.

 

[Ikateao Uzamaki]

This is weird :hyper:

 

[Leinad Sotam]

Their both big as F#$k ! That's what matters...

 

[shelke]

You're trying to switch subjects after getting called out for your hilarious reasoning that nabbing Obito's eye (To access his exclusive time-space) is somehow indicative that Madara's ocular powers were cut-off by becoming Shinju's jin. Now you're talking about him using the EMS's powers with Rinnegan. Hello?

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You must be joking.

No offense, because let me put this very plainly; do all of you we-band-together-goers suffer from persistent setbacks of poor comprehension? Read what I said and then read what you are typing. Your scans have no co-relation to what I stated. None whatsoever. Now, I could explain it to you as to what I was talking about - it was not even a allusion, by the way - or, you can simply go back and re-read the posts, and this time, with full concentration.

Your scans are pointless and serve no purpose. And thanks for the memory refresher; these scans were obviously quite obscure. Who on earth would remember them? Also, disagreements aside, I considered you one of the better posters. Colour me disappointed that you cannot even read a simple argument. How can you reach to conclusions through interpretations then?

 

[HENI]

I think they are both fat if you look on chapter 687 pg 9 it doesn't look skinny.

Sasuke's ps has lesser calories

 

[Soloist]

They are practically identical

 

[SatanicGod]

How is he on the same boat? Your fav needed to take Itachi's eyes twice whereas as you said Madara only needed to take it once from Izuna.

@bold

 

[Swagdara Uchiha]

I'm gonna assume that the amount of Chakra put into the Susanoo results in the size.