Lmaooooooo!!!!!! You clearly didn't read the feats I just posted! That's amusing, you're not even capable of reading. Lol
But let me teach you a lesson!
This is Minato:
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This is Tobirama:
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This is Karin:
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Wanna know something they all have in common? They're not Naruto Lol
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It's funny, as soon as you get your a** handed to you you start bringing up meaningless characters.
Wrong again! Naruto summoned his clone in Base:
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His clone entered SM here, right when he senses the rods:
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That's funny though, coming from the guy who just said Naruto can't sense simultaneous opponents:
You can't even keep track of what points you're making. Lol
Lmaaaoooo!!! Look at the Tailed Beasts compared to Kakashi and Gai:
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Evidence of this? I see none!
I seem to recall Sasuke b*tching on the sidelines, and only entered the fight when he borrowed Juugo's power. U_U
Against a bunch of Zetsu's who can't dodge Kunai, sure:
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But Naruto? Nope! He can summon base clones to take the hits:
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Since he's in KM or SM, he'll be that much quicker with his tech.
Oh but of course, you Sasuke fanboys think he can fire Amaterasu endlessly. U_U Well in that imaginary world you're living in, where everyone has chakra limitations except Sasuke, sure!
What are you trying to say?!
Sure! xD
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Show me the manga page where it says Enton Magatama's are any faster than Amaterasu.
Why do you keep replying? You look like more of an idiot with every post.
yeah let him summon base clones, they take the hits and sasuke keeps on firing. this technique can be use like a machine gun. a machine gun that can lead a target. naruto is toast
You conveniently ignored me last time I called you out on this, but nowhere in the manga has Sasuke ever led a target with enton while they were sprinting at full speed. So this is fanfiction.
And now you insult homosexuals to prove your immaturity and sick phobia.
Seriously, just stop replying. You look like more and more of an idiot with every post you make. (Even though you're mentally incapable of disproving any of my points)
Are you aware of how many base clones Naruto is capable of summoning? (._.)
You conveniently ignored me last time I called you out on this, but nowhere in the manga has Sasuke ever led a target with enton while they were sprinting at full speed. So this is fanfiction.
Share your delusional thoughts here:
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Like the other fanboy, you two could try a collab. project. You'll be good together.
You're under the assumption that enton is faster than Amaterasu, and nothing proves this. Stay in your trash bin.
Lel. Yes, the technique was brought out once against Zetsu's, and again against Juubi Fodder. Sasuke knew it had no chance against a real opponent.
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And now you insult homosexuals to prove your immaturity and sick phobia.
Seriously, just stop replying. You look like more and more of an idiot with every post you make. (Even though you're mentally incapable of disproving any of my points)
yeah, are you aware that that burns through most of his chakra, and the more he makes the weaker he gets? so yeah let naruto make as many clones as he wants.
you keep making this shit up about me thinking enton is faster than amaterasu. so me one instance that I've said that. enton is slower, but has the ability to lead a target. making it more effective. the sheer number of magatama, coupled with the width he can simultaneously fire make this technique hard to dodge for more than a few moments.
naruto running all day is fan fiction. naruto using full speed for more than a moment at a time is pure fanciction.
Are you aware of how many base clones Naruto is capable of summoning? (._.)
You conveniently ignored me last time I called you out on this, but nowhere in the manga has Sasuke ever led a target with enton while they were sprinting at full speed. So this is fanfiction.
Share your delusional thoughts here:
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Like the other fanboy, you two could try a collab. project. You'll be good together.
You're under the assumption that enton is faster than Amaterasu, and nothing proves this. Stay in your trash bin.
Lel. Yes, the technique was brought out once against Zetsu's, and again against Juubi Fodder. Sasuke knew it had no chance against a real opponent.
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And now you insult homosexuals to prove your immaturity and sick phobia.
Seriously, just stop replying. You look like more and more of an idiot with every post you make. (Even though you're mentally incapable of disproving any of my points)
Everyone is saying that Enton is capable of leading an opponent going at full speed. I've not seen one instance of Sasuke leading an opponent with Enton, and until he actually does that, I can't agree with you guys.
Everyone is saying that Enton is capable of leading an opponent going at full speed. I've not seen one instance of Sasuke leading an opponent with Enton, and until he actually does that, I can't agree with you guys.
Sorry dumb question but what you mean by leading? While SlimReaper may be exaggerating it's speed its not slow considering it was able to take them up in the air when they got hit. What makes this attack dangerous is the fact that it can shoot out in different directions so and in rapid succession not as fast a machine gun but yeah you get my point. Naruto can dodge or protect himself with a clone but what is he going to with another one that comes his way? I think Naruto have to use his Kyuubi Cloak to protect him for this and try to keep his distance.
Also I noticed that you and Bogard tried to back up your claims by saying that even
Zetsu couldn't dodge Kunai.. the problem with that scan he used is that they were in mid air already so I doubt they could've dodge or counter to the best of their ability as if they were on the ground
Well, he says it's slower than Amterasu, yet he's also come to the conclusion that it can lead an opponent. (Read above quote) I don't understand how he came to that conclusion. Do you?
its not slow considering it was able to take them up in the air when they got hit.
Well yeah, but they are Zetsu after all, and Zetsu can't even dodge Kunai blades.
What makes this attack dangerous is the fact that it can shoot out in different directions so and in rapid succession not as fast a machine gun but yeah you get my point.
Yes, I said in my very first post that it could take out a few of Naruto's clones. (Depends on the amount he makes) But not the main Naruto. Naruto's simply not getting taken out by this technique. We can deduce this through logic and also through plot. I mean, c'mon. Even if Naruto were to lose to Sasuke, would he really lose in such lackluster fashion in there final battle?
Naruto can dodge or protect himself with a clone but what is he going to with another one that comes his way?
Everyone is saying that Enton is capable of leading an opponent going at full speed. I've not seen one instance of Sasuke leading an opponent with Enton, and until he actually does that, I can't agree with you guys.
in this scan look at the zetsu on the far left. notice he is hit but there are 3 or 4 more waiting to hit him if the attack misses. that shows the attack doesn't need a target like amaterasu. using this logic, one could clearly see how sasuke would be able to shoot ahead of naruto. because the width of this attack naruto would have a tough time dodging
Everyone is saying that Enton is capable of leading an opponent going at full speed. I've not seen one instance of Sasuke leading an opponent with Enton, and until he actually does that, I can't agree with you guys.
Sasuke was leading with enton that big FRS used against juubi. The zetsu that was killed was led by enton as well. Clearly one has to lead a moving target. You cannot aim where it is but calculate where it will be, and its so happens that sharingan is best for that.
You think firing multiple Enton at one person running straight at you is equivocal to leading them. That is false. He just fired multiple Enton, that's all.
The point I made is that Naruto can run linearly. You haven't countered this once.
All you have to go off of is one panel where Sasuke one shotted a bunch of pathetic Zetsu's.
You think firing multiple Enton at one person running straight at you is equivocal to leading them. That is false. He just fired multiple Enton, that's all.
The point I made is that Naruto can run linearly. You haven't countered this once.
All you have to go off of is one panel where Sasuke one shotted a bunch of pathetic Zetsu's.
where did I say " this is equivocal to leading them"? I merely stated because every enton didn't need a target means that it isn't fanfiction to suggest that sasuke can lead someone with enton. amaterasu on the other hand needs to target the user, so someone must chase with amaterasu. not lead.
running linearly would be naruto's downfall. because he has only shown to use his speed in a straight line, it would be quite easy for sasuke to lead a target that doesn't deviate from its path.
Well, the leading I'm referring to is how Slim is saying Sasuke is shooting Enton out in front of Naruto while going at full speed.
This ^ (Note that he's replying to my post concerning Naruto's speed and anticipation skills.
Well, he says it's slower than Amterasu, yet he's also come to the conclusion that it can lead an opponent. (Read above quote) I don't understand how he came to that conclusion. Do you?
I don't know about that lol thats between you guys so I'll let you two settle that.
Well yeah, but they are Zetsu after all, and Zetsu can't even dodge Kunai blades.
Yes, I said in my very first post that it could take out a few of Naruto's clones. (Depends on the amount he makes) But not the main Naruto. Naruto's simply not getting taken out by this technique. We can deduce this through logic and also through plot. I mean, c'mon. Even if Naruto were to lose to Sasuke, would he really lose in such lackluster fashion in there final battle?
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I know what you say is true and I agree @bold but lets discard that because this isn't about how Sasuke is defeating Naruto in the manga. While this technique itself won't take out all the clones what it will do is give Sasuke the upperhand of using the fires laying around the clones with his enton control he can move it around and just catch all of them on fire.
EDIT: Just saw your edit.
Base Naruto was capable of dodging Kunai in mid-air:
Amaterasu can target wherever the user is looking. Which is to say, they can target anything. If Amaterasu users were so capable of anticipating someones movements like you suggest, Itachi would've fired ahead of Sasuke here:
By your logic they can lead. However they don't, because they are incapable. An opponent capable of dodging Amaterasu is capable of dodging Enton.
running linearly would be naruto's downfall. because he has only shown to use his speed in a straight line, it would be quite easy for sasuke to lead a target that doesn't deviate from its path.
Yep, great KCM naruto whom his fans claim to be stronger then then MS Sasuke had to be saved by some lame nerd who was shitting his pants in presence of Lord Sasuke
I know what you say is true and I agree @bold but lets discard that because this isn't about how Sasuke is defeating Naruto in the manga. While this technique itself won't take out all the clones what it will do is give Sasuke the upperhand of using the fires laying around the clones with his enton control he can move it around and just catch all of them on fire.
I agree with all this. However this isn't what this guy's trying to say here. He's trying to say Sasuke can hit Naruto with a tech he admits to be slower than Amaterasu, and uses scans of Sasuke hitting a bunch of Zetsu's running straight at him. Zzz
Only because he was using clones.. Zetsu can't use Shadow clone jutsu from my knowledge. So take that away and he would've been hit like the Zetsu.
This is where I question your logic. If you yourself said that Enton is slower than Amaterasu, then how is it capable of leading someone like Naruto?
Because in that panel, he fired multiple Enton at targets. They were all targeting Zetsu's, some were just more off point than others.
Amaterasu can target wherever the user is looking. Which is to say, they can target anything. If Amaterasu users were so capable of anticipating someones movements like you suggest, Itachi would've fired ahead of Sasuke here:
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By your logic they can lead. However they don't, because they are incapable. An opponent capable of dodging Amaterasu is capable of dodging Enton.
(._.) Not if Naruto is parallel to Sasuke and runs perpendicularly. Then he's going straight and at full speed.
enton is capable of leading someone like naruto because sasuke would shoot it ahead of naruto. far enough ahead that naruto runs into the barrage of magatama. enton is slower but not slow in the least.
you call it off point, I call it a wide spread.
amaterasu does target where the user is looking. but if they don't look at the person they are trying to hit then it would just go off in the distance. because they must follow the target directly using amaterasu the must aim directly at the target and try to catch them from behind.
my logic is amaterasu and enton aren't the same, and don't travel the same. you clearly don't get that.
because enton travels instead of spawing on the target. then sasuke isn't forced to look at the target and can instead look ahead of them and fire in front.
I do know what leading is because im not a total idiot. have you ever shot at anything moving? or thrown a ball at a target running side to side? if you throw it at the target is will just go where they were a few moments earlier. instead you must "LEAD" your target, shooting or throwing in front of where the target currently is to compensate for their motion.
I agree with all this. However this isn't what this guy's trying to say here. He's trying to say Sasuke can hit Naruto with a tech he admits to be slower than Amaterasu, and uses scans of Sasuke hitting a bunch of Zetsu's running straight at him. Zzz
Yeah we'll have to see whenever/if Naruto and Sasuke fight. I don't think it'll be capable of hitting though seeing that Naruto's foot speed in KCM is comparable to V1 Raikage.
Doesn't that just support how pathetic White Zetsu is?
Yeah it shows that but thats not the point I'm trying to make. I was showing you that using that scan that where zetsu were hit by kunai was invalid because they were in mid air.
