Sasuke without sharingan( =Minato) >Naruto without kurama

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The sharingan is the uchiha blood line power This mean they born with the potential of getting the sharingan.

Sasuke
Sasuke is a born genius stated by many senior ninja in konoha and other villages.Sasuke without sharingan can still do all lightning release,fire release,good at weaponary,good at taijutsu etc.I believe sasuke will be like minato without sharingan.
MINATO
Minato was also a genius in combat.He was like naruto but with intellegent and more knowledge of jutsu.

Naruto
Naruto without sharingan will not be able to think through battle,very easy to be predictable or very vulnerable .He will not have also the ability to heal,used effect resengan variation and speed.
However Sage mode will be the only help for him but he will not have the speed dodge his oponent attacks.He will jutsu rely on Ma and Pa toad to think for him when they fuse.
sasuke is no way near minato even with sharingan. Maybe itachi comes close to minato but not sasuke even with his current power up
 

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da F*ck was you smoking Naruto with 1 tail was equal(more or less) to curse mark v2 sasuke or was it version 1 o_O NE ways minato is was way above 1 tail naruto and you say sasuke without sharigan is stronger than minato .....
 

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^This is Naruto and Sasuke's power struggle. Kishi wanted to see them as rivals constantly getting the edge on each other. Sasuke relies on what's considered A quality by the professionals while Naruto uses his own methods to achieve an equally successful ability.
 

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Well, let's see.. Sasuke with no Sharingan.. Equal to Minato.. Hmm..
ON WHAT EFFING DRUGS MATE!?
So, that dismissed.. Equal to Naruto without Kurama, better.. But Naruto would have still learned Sage Mode, and without Sharingan Sasuke wouldn't be able to use original Chidori. Not that he wouldn't have still learned to change it, and his nature is lightning so he could've learned it either way. But, all this Kirin talk.. Most are missing one CRUCIAL point. Kirin does not CREATE a lightning bolt, it MANIPULATES one. Sasuke's only use of Kirin was against Itachi, after Amaterasu has considerably raised the surrounding air temp and air pressure, Sasuke could do this on his own using Enton... IF of course, he had a Mangenkyo Sharingan.
Fail Thread.
 

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sasuke w/o sharengun would be equal to kakashi w/o sharengun. Very intelligent above average shnobi. when it comes to naruto he would of probably died in the first series. But he is still an uzumaki with a ton of chakara. If he somehow lived he would of easily surpassed sasuke because of the stamina, natural rapid healing ability, sheer amount of chakara, and SM.
 

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The title say it all
The sharingan is the uchiha blood line power This mean they born with the potential of getting the sharingan.

Sasuke
Sasuke is a born genius stated by many senior ninja in konoha and other villages.Sasuke without sharingan can still do all lightning release,fire release,good at weaponary,good at taijutsu etc.I believe sasuke will be like minato without sharingan.
MINATO
Minato was also a genius in combat.He was like naruto but with intellegent and more knowledge of jutsu.

Naruto
Naruto without sharingan will not be able to think through battle,very easy to be predictable or very vulnerable .He will not have also the ability to heal,used effect resengan variation and speed.
However Sage mode will be the only help for him but he will not have the speed dodge his oponent attacks.He will jutsu rely on Ma and Pa toad to think for him when they fuse.
I disagree. Naruto is just as intelligent despite common belief. He acts stupid and goofy most of the time, but is a genius on the battlefield when it comes down to it. Narutos rasengan variations shat on Sasukes lightning and fire variations due to the fact Sasuke hasn't developed those since he has spent time developing his sharingan while Naruto has many powerful variations of rasengan. Also, Naruto has toad summons. Imagine all 3 of the giant ninja toads +ma and pa up against Sasuke. Without the sharingan, Sasuke is nothing but a powerful chidori. Naruto has sage mode, rasengan, toads, and clones whereas Sasuke would have his lightning and fire jutus and that's kind of it.
 

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Oh, and by the way... Naruto without Kurama, for the last time, means either both his parents are alive or at least one. That alone would make his life better, his personality different, and his training and fighting style more advanced. He would still have Rasengan, Rasen Shuriken, Huge chakra pool, Sage mode, and a little of Kyuubi's chakra for being in his mother's womb. Not only that, he would possibly have learned FTG by 15, and also, he would still have an elemental advantage over Sasuke's Raiton techniques.
So you finally started to agree which power is the given, thank you.
 
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U r a real fanbaoy to think that withou sharingan sasuke is eql to minato and greater then naruto withot kurama u shoul be remembering that if a person like tobi with sharingan got defeated by minato then whts the place of sasuke without sharingan and about naruto is there is no kurama then naruto would have been better badass then minato by learning jutsus from minato and kushina with great chakra reserves greater then minato and sasuke
 
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The title say it all
The sharingan is the uchiha blood line power This mean they born with the potential of getting the sharingan.

Sasuke
Sasuke is a born genius stated by many senior ninja in konoha and other villages.Sasuke without sharingan can still do all lightning release,fire release,good at weaponary,good at taijutsu etc.I believe sasuke will be like minato without sharingan.
MINATO
Minato was also a genius in combat.He was like naruto but with intellegent and more knowledge of jutsu.

Naruto
Naruto without sharingan will not be able to think through battle,very easy to be predictable or very vulnerable .He will not have also the ability to heal,used effect resengan variation and speed.
However Sage mode will be the only help for him but he will not have the speed dodge his oponent attacks.He will jutsu rely on Ma and Pa toad to think for him when they fuse.
This is probably the worst thread as my 5 years on here 4 as a guest & 1 as a member. i made my account so I could comment on threads like these which were simply too damn dumb (pardon my language) to have ever been made. Sasuke without sharingan is in no way gonna be the Sasuke he is today he would be dead by now without any arguement (except from super fan boys such as yourself). Now to say he's equal to minato who created one of the first time space jutsu without any help is simple blasphemy, saying he's better than SM naruto is ludacris, & to misjudge Narutos SM Speed is atrocious to say the least; mind you your saying its WITHOUT I say again WITHOUT !!! his main source of strength & mainly his character no less; it just makes this thread all the worthwhile to respond to. So in a nutshell here's what I'm getting at:

Minato >>>>>> Sasuke(without Sharingan)
Minato >>>>>> Sasuke(with Sharingan)

For the simple fact I don't think that Sasuke could predict where minato would teleport to with Sharingan but that's up for arguement no doubt.

SM Naruto >>> Sasuke(without Sharingan)
SM Naruto > Sasuke(with Sharingan)

Now once again Sasuke without Sharingan is gonna get raped because naruto will be able to bond with Ma & Pa because as you have stated in this situation "Naruto doesn't have Kurama" so thats a major advantage for Naruto over Sasuke. As for Sasuke with Sharingan we have to develop a stand point as to how far along Sasuke is with them which is also up for arguement.

But that's my opinion on the situation at hand thank you for your time ^-^
 
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