Sasuke was always too overpowered

[TheRapGuy]

The OP is obviously a troll. His thread was dismantled really quickly but he only kept responding to get people riled up.

Pretty erroneous thinking. I have replied to all the things people have pointed, but you on the other have did not bother to reply back, all of this under the claims of being trolling.

In the end it all resumes to this. People are pissed off because Lord Sasuke > their favorite character. They even go that far that they ignore manga facts.

 

[Optimistic]

I think shelke and rapguy cleaned this thread up nicely.

 

[Bijuu Bomber]

Sasuke's never been overpowered, considering he's never really killed someone and he gets his ass whooped many times it's far from overpowered...

 

[Transcendence]

This fight it about subjectivity, objectivity, and Hypothesis thrown into a varied mix. As both characters are powerful and both have feats but not against one another at this stage, it gets hairy. All one can do is speculate.

I have nothing against any member either, but it's obvious that Sasuke fan base, even those who post legit points are called fappers or wankers. It's ridiculous. Thank you for the respect.




Nice insults, Hana Monata. Got any more of those high-end heart wrenching retorts? Funny, as you appear to have eye-troubles when I never even once mentioned that Amaterasu or Enton GGs or whatever. That 'GG Indeed' was a retort to yours GG crap without any scans. I never even once mentioned that Sasuke defeats Naruto. I am still of the firm opinion that EMS Sasuke = BM Naruto on power tier levels, but as an over all Shinobi, Sasuke would always be much superior.

Oh no sir, no scans and still acting as if you have a golden spoon up your hind-quarters clearly equals candid opinion. Calling me a fapboy isn't exactly an acerbic aphorism. Some 5 year old shit you are throwing my way. It burns, man. It truly burns. Still no decent counter, I see? Good back paddling once you got cornered. Keep up, as you make up 90% of this useless base. Hey, at least you are the majority.

No problem.

 

[Transcendence]

Pretty erroneous thinking. I have replied to all the things people have pointed, but you on the other have did not bother to reply back, all of this under the claims of being trolling.

In the end it all resumes to this. People are pissed off because Lord Sasuke > their favorite character. They even go that far that they ignore manga facts.

Please don't berate me. It's pathetic.

 

[Keimil]

The fact that Sasuke has changed his eyes so much points out that he has evolved during his battles. Sasuke did not need to be trained to master his MS skills, he learned how to use them in battles.

After obtaining his MS he discovered how to use amaterasu, after casting it on Bee he discovered how to set it off.

During the Kage summit he perfected amaterasu by learning how to shape the black blames to protect his body. He also used Susano’o for the first time and was able to go from the ribcage to a half body just in some minutes.

During his fight with Danzo Sasuke took his Susano’o to a new level, learning how to use its new powers straight away.

Naruto trains to do something. Sasuke in his last fights has skipped the training and learned how to use his new abilities. It is not training, it is beyond this. It is Sasuke’s talent to learn something very fast without needing training. It is not about miraculously getting power ups, it is about Sasuke that learn very fast.

Sasuke trained with Orochinaru and after that when Naruto meet him, even if Naruto and Sakura had the same period of time to train, Naruto, Sakura, Sai and Yamato could not overpower Sasuke. Furthermore Sasuke was ready to finish them off with a jutsu that looked like Kirin.

Doesn't really matter how talented he could be... His last 2 power ups were stuff he didn't work to get, unlike Naruto or Sakura....

 

[TheRapGuy]

I think shelke and rapguy cleaned this thread up nicely.

I kindly thank you.

Sasuke's never been overpowered, considering he's never really killed someone and he gets his ass whooped many times it's far from overpowered...

The fact that Sasuke has killed someone is pretty arguable. I have met people who say he did, people who say he did not.....anyway him killing anyone has nothing to do with him being or not being OP.

In his battles Sasuke get always injured, but his opponents ended up the same. He had fights with strong people lately. How would have been if they could not hurt him..... When two strong people fight it is important for both of them to be able to hit one another else they would not be that strong.

Please don't berate me. It's pathetic.

Of course, because you are not responsible for what you say .

 

[DragonGodOfFire]

LOL valley of the end was a tie CM lvl2 sasuke was equal to Kyubbi Cloak one tail naruto, naruto didn't aim for sasuke with the intent to kill during the final clash.

Sasuke part 2 vs naruto and sakura/yamato was accurate.

Sasuke was not trying to kill bee, plus bee raped him twice and was not lucky to escape, he escaped on purpose.

He didn't waste chakra on the samurai, they were fodder, plus raikage is not the strongest ninja. Sasuke travelling through snow was so difficult

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Karin helped sasuke recover before his fight with danzo. If tobi didn't warn sasuke, danzo seal would have got him, but he did fight danzo well and won.

Kakashi vs sasuke was ok, he was exhausted but not dying.

Sakura is fodder plus she could have killed him (maybe) but got scared.

Sasuke is high kage lvl, equal to naruto.

 

[SuperFlyzzED]

People are always going to make some excuse about Sasuke's victories. What's even more funny is that people consider all of Naruto's victories legit. Let's say for example the Nine-Tails! Naruto beat Kurama thanks to Bee and Kushina. Bee protected Naruto from Kurama's TBB. Kushina helped Naruto by ensnaring Kurama, so that Naruto could deliver the final blow. But of course, Sasuke has many handicaps like when he fought Bee. Sasuke was no condition to fight, Sasuke had to keep Bee alive, and Sasuke needed to protect himself along with the others. In the Kage Summit, Sasuke supposely lost because A was getting through the Enton Spikes! Also a kick from the air is going to kill Sasuke? I doubt it. Why did Gaara mention that the Black Flames would further damage A? Last but not least Danzo! Sasuke goes fighting Danzo in a weakened state. People then use excuses such as Karin healing Sasuke to discredit his victory! What about A getting healed by Shi? How is that excused? I tell you people try to make their hatred appear logical.

OP: Most of your OP sounds good. I don't agree about calling Naruto a fodder in the penultimate part of your thread!

 

[Crossroads]

Nice insults, Hana Monata. Got any more of those high-end heart wrenching retorts? Funny, as you appear to have eye-troubles when I never even once mentioned that Amaterasu or Enton GGs or whatever. That 'GG Indeed' was a retort to yours GG crap without any scans. I never even once mentioned that Sasuke defeats Naruto. I am still of the firm opinion that EMS Sasuke = BM Naruto on power tier levels, but as an over all Shinobi, Sasuke would always be much superior.

Oh no sir, no scans and still acting as if you have a golden spoon up your hind-quarters clearly equals candid opinion. Calling me a fapboy isn't exactly an acerbic aphorism. Some 5 year old shit you are throwing my way. It burns, man. It truly burns. Still no decent counter, I see? Good back paddling once you got cornered. Keep up, as you make up 90% of this useless base. Hey, at least you are the majority.

1. Misspelled Hannah Montana.
2. I said at the end of every argument, we're still going at it.. are we not?
3. You contradicted yourself at the bold.
4. I already explained why arguing with a fanboy is pointless, and yes.. you are a biased fanboy. Me stating this has nothing to do with age and/or maturity. Simple as that.
5. Pretty sure 90% of this "useless" Base that you are indeed spending much of your time on consists of fanboy's like you that can't get over the fact that their favorite character has their flaws.
6. You're obviously getting somewhat butthurt, please refrain yourself from logic overload and go take a little nap.
7. Nothing I've stated has been biased on the Base, if I've ever come off biased it was me playing around or being openly and obviously sarcastic.
8. Log off.

 

[iNotorious]

People are always going to make some excuse about Sasuke's victories. What's even more funny is that people consider all of Naruto's victories legit. Let's say for example the Nine-Tails! Naruto beat Kurama thanks to Bee and Kushina. Bee protected Naruto from Kurama's TBB. Kushina helped Naruto by ensnaring Kurama, so that Naruto could deliver the final blow. But of course, Sasuke has many handicaps like when he fought Bee. Sasuke was no condition to fight, Sasuke had to keep Bee alive, and Sasuke needed to protect himself along with the others. In the Kage Summit, Sasuke supposely lost because A was getting through the Enton Spikes! Also a kick from the air is going to kill Sasuke? I doubt it. Why did Gaara mention that the Black Flames would further damage A? Last but not least Danzo! Sasuke goes fighting Danzo in a weakened state. People then use excuses such as Karin healing Sasuke to discredit his victory! What about A getting healed by Shi? How is that excused? I tell you people try to make their hatred appear logical.

OP: Most of your OP sounds good. I don't agree about calling Naruto a fodder in the penultimate part of your thread!

@Bold, A could have killed sasuke right in that spot, Garaa protected sasuke.

 

[Booker]

@Cross Roads I have better things to do. Unless of course, the internet is your whole life? I have one other thread open and I have yet to complete my reply. It is still open for the past 3 hours. Woe is me.

Please counter, I AM waiting. The free dose of shit in your posts is more contrived than Paris Hilton's Pink thong collection. The OP and me both have used scans to back things. Where is your proof? Oh wait, there is none to this 'BM herp derp lerp derp GG derp derp derp EMS Sasuke' other than fan fiction and a whole lot of stone-age wankery. I find your signature hilariously ironic and persuasively shitty. *Awaits another shitty post with NO scans*

I've read all your posts and saw all your scans.

Fact is, you have no proof Sasuke's susano'o can tank a TBB. You lost your credibility here when you assumed Sasuke's susano'o's durability >= that of Madara's susano'o sword, which would be speculation. Try again, without speculating. As it stands, 2 or more TBB's would destroy Sasuke, Susano'o or not.

(There is a counter to the TBB's, I'm just more interested in seeing if you can come up with it.)

As for Enton harming Naruto, lol. Extinguishing the Enton from his BM Cloak is as simple as dispersing the chakra parts affected by it.

 

[Champ]

I know and he's only goin to get stronger

 

[Xerotes]

Gamabunta solos while Naruto eats ramen in part 1/beginning of part 2.

 

[PabloEscobar]

Sasuke is like a SWISS KNIFE, but since you want to change a FLAT TIRE it's useless.

 

[TheRapGuy]

Doesn't really matter how talented he could be... His last 2 power ups were stuff he didn't work to get, unlike Naruto or Sakura....

Not at all. Sasuke got them from Itachi, Naruto got his from his father. Because he is an Uchiha Sasuke had sharingan as his blood limit and because he is an Uzumake Naruto has strong life force, thus is able to be a good tailed beast host.

As you said Naruto worked to gain Kurama's chackra, and later to gain its friendship, Sasuke could not train that much with his MS because it is a manga fact that a MS can fade away.

I already explained. Sasuke trained during his fights. He did not use his complete Susano'o until he fought Danzo and was not able to control amaterasu better than Itachi only after the encounter with Kabuto, or maybe earlier.

Not to talk about how Naruto was helped by his mother and Bee in the process.

People are always going to make some excuse about Sasuke's victories. What's even more funny is that people consider all of Naruto's victories legit. Let's say for example the Nine-Tails! Naruto beat Kurama thanks to Bee and Kushina. Bee protected Naruto from Kurama's TBB. Kushina helped Naruto by ensnaring Kurama, so that Naruto could deliver the final blow. But of course, Sasuke has many handicaps like when he fought Bee. Sasuke was no condition to fight, Sasuke had to keep Bee alive, and Sasuke needed to protect himself along with the others. In the Kage Summit, Sasuke supposely lost because A was getting through the Enton Spikes! Also a kick from the air is going to kill Sasuke? I doubt it. Why did Gaara mention that the Black Flames would further damage A? Last but not least Danzo! Sasuke goes fighting Danzo in a weakened state. People then use excuses such as Karin healing Sasuke to discredit his victory! What about A getting healed by Shi? How is that excused? I tell you people try to make their hatred appear logical.

OP: Most of your OP sounds good. I don't agree about calling Naruto a fodder in the penultimate part of your thread!

I called him like that only for fun, it was a stroke text after all .

@Bold, A could have killed sasuke right in that spot, Garaa protected sasuke.

Maybe he could have, but you also not take into account in your post that Ae would have been finished off. And Gaars stopped the fight, thus he saved both of them. Don't make it look like he only saved Sasuke.

I've read all your posts and saw all your scans.

Fact is, you have no proof Sasuke's susano'o can tank a TBB. You lost your credibility here when you assumed Sasuke's susano'o's durability >= that of Madara's susano'o sword, which would be speculation. Try again, without speculating. As it stands, 2 or more TBB's would destroy Sasuke, Susano'o or not.

(There is a counter to the TBB's, I'm just more interested in seeing if you can come up with it.)

As for Enton harming Naruto, lol. Extinguishing the Enton from his BM Cloak is as simple as dispersing the chakra parts affected by it.

If you say that he is only speculating why won't you prove us it is not the same. Also you just state it, "I've read all your posts and saw all your scans."

How can Naruto can do such a thing? Any proof to back up that statement?

 

[Transcendence]

Not at all. Sasuke got them from Itachi, Naruto got his from his father. Because he is an Uchiha Sasuke had sharingan as his blood limit and because he is an Uzumake Naruto has strong life force, thus is able to be a good tailed beast host.

As you said Naruto worked to gain Kurama's chackra, and later to gain its friendship, Sasuke could not train that much with his MS because it is a manga fact that a MS can fade away.

I already explained. Sasuke trained during his fights. He did not use his complete Susano'o until he fought Danzo and was not able to control amaterasu better than Itachi only after the encounter with Kabuto, or maybe earlier.

Not to talk about how Naruto was helped by his mother and Bee in the process.




I called him like that only for fun, it was a stroke text after all .



Maybe he could have, but you also not take into account in your post that Ae would have been finished off. And Gaars stopped the fight, thus he saved both of them. Don't make it look like he only saved Sasuke.



If you say that he is only speculating why won't you prove us it is not the same. Also you just state it, "I've read all your posts and saw all your scans."

How can Naruto can do such a thing? Any proof to back up that statement?

Your entire thread is biased speculation in favor of your opinion. Immortal Itachi was correct in his assertion.

 

[RNITBmsage]

Not at all. Sasuke got them from Itachi, Naruto got his from his father. Because he is an Uchiha Sasuke had sharingan as his blood limit and because he is an Uzumake Naruto has strong life force, thus is able to be a good tailed beast host.

As you said Naruto worked to gain Kurama's chackra, and later to gain its friendship, Sasuke could not train that much with his MS because it is a manga fact that a MS can fade away.

I already explained. Sasuke trained during his fights. He did not use his complete Susano'o until he fought Danzo and was not able to control amaterasu better than Itachi only after the encounter with Kabuto, or maybe earlier.

Not to talk about how Naruto was helped by his mother and Bee in the process.




I called him like that only for fun, it was a stroke text after all .



Maybe he could have, but you also not take into account in your post that Ae would have been finished off. And Gaars stopped the fight, thus he saved both of them. Don't make it look like he only saved Sasuke.



If you say that he is only speculating why won't you prove us it is not the same. Also you just state it, "I've read all your posts and saw all your scans."

How can Naruto can do such a thing? Any proof to back up that statement?

this thread is dead and no one cares anymore

 

[iNotorious]

Not at all. Sasuke got them from Itachi, Naruto got his from his father. Because he is an Uchiha Sasuke had sharingan as his blood limit and because he is an Uzumake Naruto has strong life force, thus is able to be a good tailed beast host.

As you said Naruto worked to gain Kurama's chackra, and later to gain its friendship, Sasuke could not train that much with his MS because it is a manga fact that a MS can fade away.

I already explained. Sasuke trained during his fights. He did not use his complete Susano'o until he fought Danzo and was not able to control amaterasu better than Itachi only after the encounter with Kabuto, or maybe earlier.

Not to talk about how Naruto was helped by his mother and Bee in the process.




I called him like that only for fun, it was a stroke text after all .



Maybe he could have, but you also not take into account in your post that Ae would have been finished off. And Gaars stopped the fight, thus he saved both of them. Don't make it look like he only saved Sasuke.



If you say that he is only speculating why won't you prove us it is not the same. Also you just state it, "I've read all your posts and saw all your scans."

How can Naruto can do such a thing? Any proof to back up that statement?

@Bold, he didn't care at all, look at his arm, he just wanted to kill him and he could but garaa.

 

[Lost Woods Denizen]

To comment on the original topic, while I do not feel that Sasuke has always been "overpowered," I can believe that everyone can agree that Sasuke has always been a very skilled combatant who is always increasing his skills.

I would like to forgo the usual comparisons to other characters and look at Sasuke as an individual. Quite early in the story it was established that Sasuke was a 'genius' character. He excelled in all fields besides teamwork, and with his hobby being training, it comes as no surprise why his skills constantly increased. However, this does not mean that he was overpowered, as that would mean he was far above all of his opponents, and that has almost never been the case. His personality, inherent, and trained traits have all made him what he is today, which is simply a member in the ranks of very powerful shinobi, while still being relatively young.