Sasuke was always too overpowered

[iFlowMotion]

They are equals. And always have been. There are times when it seems one is above the other,but in the end they are ying and yang like Kishimoto said.

Every Sasuke vs Naruto thread should be end as of now. This post is money. Can you please share this with the entire base.

 

[TheRapGuy]

Naruto at least trained with Bee to control Kyuubi's Chakra, he trained in Mount Myoboku to learn Frog Sage Mode, also with Yamato and Kakashi tutoring he develop Fuuton Rasen Shuriken. While Sasuke just keep getting non-trained power ups... the techniques I can recognize as truly his own is Kirin, Chidori Nagashi, Tsukuyomi, Kuchiyose and the lighting sword.... End.

Sasuke also had to train to master his sgaringan. The fact that he looks like is getting power ups out of nowhere is only because he does not need too much time to train to master something. When he used Amaterasu and Susano'o for the first time he has used them right.

You are seriously too stupid to insult.

Who raised you?

I really do not know why you would ask for being insulted or wonder why you would find it necessary, but I always prefer to have a polite conversation. I am not a biased person so I find no reason to be angry because you think differently.

 

[iNotorious]

This guy is a fanboy. Legit Sasuke fans are shelke and some other guy

 

[thatgirl]

read half way and then i got bored, perhaps the best part of this thread is your status

I can smell fanboys from like a thousand posts away.

 

[Transcendence]

Crossroads and Immortal Itachi have solo'd this thread. No need to intervene.

 

[TheRapGuy]

read half way and then i got bored, perhaps the best part of this thread is your status

Thanks for the read. If maybe more people from those who have posed in this thread would have read it, they would pretty much agreed with me.

Crossroads and Immortal Itachi have solo'd this thread. No need to intervene.

They have yet to come with a non biased opinion, as I was able to prove any of their points being wrong.

 

[H a n]

Naw.. Naruto was holding back due to caring for Sasuke.

 

[Keimil]

Sasuke also had to train to master his sgaringan. The fact that he looks like is getting power ups out of nowhere is only because he does not need too much time to train to master something. When he used Amaterasu and Susano'o for the first time he has used them right.

He only had Susan'o in first place because of her brother, there had been no technique to successfully used in the first try if it wasn't for Ni-san's overpowered asspull gift... the same can be applied with EMS.
Besides, Sasuke only trained his Sharingan with Orochimaru, at least we only see him doing so back then, never again, not even a flashback...

PD: Sorry, we didn't, he just happened to have Tsukuyomi, so we can assume he mastered it while he was with Orochimau....

 

[BlacLord™]

On the Bee fight, Sasuke still wasn't fully recovered from the Itachi fight but being Sasuke, he felt confident enough to take on a Jinchuuriki anyway.

At the Kage Summit, Sasuke nearly got killed twice, once in a stalemate with the Raikage and then again by Oonoki.

For the Danzou fight, Karin had healed him and Danzou pushed him to his limit, as for the Kakashi/Naruto encounters after, he was basically fuelled by anger, which can be very powerful. As for Sakura, her primary role is support and she was mad to try and take on any Sasuke. As for Naruto, I agree, he's pathetic when emotions are involved.

 

[Amaterasuice]

Sasuke, for his rank and age group, has always been overpowered. In the Chunin exam preliminaries he was easily chunin level. While many of his peers were genin level or barely chunin level (Minus Gaara, Neji, lee)

By the end of part one. low jonin/special jonin level. While most of the rest were chunin level or genin level.

By The Itachi fight he was low kage level. That showed a lot of power on his part. His peers were chunin level or jonin level. (Minus Gaara who was also low kage level).

Now he's high kage level/above kage level and would destroy most of his peers alone.

But most of your statements aren't true.

 

[TheRapGuy]

He only had Susan'o in first place because of her brother, there had been no technique to successfully used in the first try if it wasn't for Ni-san's overpowered asspull gift... the same can be applied with EMS.
Besides, Sasuke only trained his Sharingan with Orochimaru, at least we only see him doing so back then, never again, not even a flashback...

Sasuke had MS because he felt sorrow after his brother died. He was hating Itachi, but after he learnt about his past he appreciated him for what he was. Itachi also transferred his ocular powers to Sasuke so your point s right.

But you left one thing aside. When I replied to you and said that Naruto obtained the the fox from Minato, you said that he also trained to master it.

I could also have said the same thing to you back then. I could have said that he would not have a fox to team up with if it wasn't Minato. But my reply was clearly different.

 

[Xāvî1]

But Lord Naruto is waaay more powerful than Sasuke now so your points are invalid

you got that right on the money

 

[BlacLord™]

He only had Susan'o in first place because of her brother, there had been no technique to successfully used in the first try if it wasn't for Ni-san's overpowered asspull gift... the same can be applied with EMS.
Besides, Sasuke only trained his Sharingan with Orochimaru, at least we only see him doing so back then, never again, not even a flashback...

PD: Sorry, we didn't, he just happened to have Tsukuyomi, so we can assume he mastered it while he was with Orochimau....

Herp derp, he didn't have MS until after his training with Orochimaru. He got Susano'o because he got it, not because Itachi gave it to him. The only thing Itachi transferred to Sasuke was that shot of Amaterasu aimed for Tobi.

 

[TheRapGuy]

Herp derp, he didn't have MS until after his training with Orochimaru. He got Susano'o because he got it, not because Itachi gave it to him. The only thing Itachi transferred to Sasuke was that shot of Amaterasu aimed for Tobi.

Yup, Sasuke has clearly mastered Susano'o by himself. The best proof for this is his fight with Danzo. He also perfected amaterasu, as Sasuke is able to shape the black flames and use them to guard himself.

 

[Crossroads]

Crossroads and Immortal Itachi have solo'd this thread. No need to intervene.

We LG'd him.

 

[shelke]

1. Valley of the End: Naruto held back.

What would Sasuke have done against Gamabunta? GG.

2. Sasuke's first meet with Naruto in Part 2: This is one of the 2 only times Sasuke was > Naruto.

3. Sasuke got the D from Bee twice. If he didn't have Karin and Jugo to save him from death twice in the same fight it would have been GG. Sauce has nice fights, but he doesn't get props for this one, Amaterasu isn't a hard ability to use and without it, Bee would have killed him.

4. Kage Summit was pitiful. Though, his fight with Danzo was nice.

5. How is cleverly Kamui'ing something as fast as an enton arrow "just luck"??
"Avoided dying by using his sharingan" Okay. How many times has Sasuke "avoided dying" by using his Sharingan. This one is beyond irrelevant.

6. Trying to convince us that Sasuke is OP, and you state that he almost kills Sakura. It's Sakura, need I say more?
Why would Naruto harm his brother? Sasuke who he's been trying to save..? Going Sage Mode and summoning Ma and Pa and other toad summons would have been GG unless Tobi/Obito stepped in.

My conclusion: You failed at not being biased. This thread is full of fail.

- Gamabunta was not even halping Naruto out when one tails was wrecking havoc and only stayed on the request of a lesser toad, along with his beef with the tailed beast. He would have totally stayed just because Naruto asked him too. Where is your proof that Naruto held back when he stated that he would 'break every bone in Sasuke's body' if that's what it took to drag him back. He broke plenty / Sarcasm. He couldn't back his words. Just stop.

- Correct.

- Sasuke was badly injured from his fight with Itachi and fact both Juugo and himself confirm. He was fatally wounded only ONCE. The stabs according to Bee himself were not lethal. It's as if no one reads the manga on this damn site. His reflexes were not up to the mark and Bee was getting aided by eight tails. A Bijuu is no one power, not Bee's not anyone else's. It was team work on both sides.

In fact, had Sasuke wanted to kill Bee, he was incapacitated for a a few seconds from the time the Genjutsu hit him to the time he recovered. It was enough time to end his life with Chidori; a technique that blew apart an entire hall when he tussled with Raikage. If Bee didn't have eight tails breaking his genjutsu not to mention the transformation, he would have died for sure. Why not consider that?

Also, Sasuke was completely healed by the end of the fight and Bee Chose to run away as according to himself, 'Sasuke is the strongest opponent he has ever fought'. And before you suggest the inevitabily overused reply that he was leaving the village or it was his plan all along, then kindly reread the manga. Bee only decided to act upon this plan following the Kawarimi technique.

- What about Kage Summit? The fact that the Kages fought WITH their Jounins and STILL couldn't kill Sasuke till the last moment when Oonki took a cheap shot? It is exactly the other way around. The guy was just learning to use his MS abilities and still Raikage was nearly killed and Gaara along with four Jounins couldn't put a scratch on Sasuke. Naruto would have been sent home in a match box. Fact.

- That was the least clever tactic out of all. You must be joking. Face it, an Uchiha eye saved Kakashi's behind and after that had Sakura not interfered - another point where Sasuke was facing more than one opponent - Kakashi was dead meat, because he was stumbling and already feeling the affects of MS Kamui use. Look it up. Also Sharingan is Sasuke's KG, just like Hyuga have Byakuan, or Mei has two KGs. I don't think I should even go any further.

- Really, against a near blind individual? Shocker. Naruto was no match for Sasuke then.

My Conclusion, you appear to be a garden variety troll magnet as ALL of those are facts BACKED by scans. What do you have? A bunch of fill-in-the-blanks opinions and dislikes which are not relevant to the discussion. Your 'Pitiful, got a D' etc points CLEARLY elucidate that. Don't **** this thread up.

How does current Sasuke counter BM?

Kindly prove it that Sasuke has no counter to BM. Let's hear this tale other than 'ZOMG it's manga fact' because it isn't. Let's go.

 

[Keimil]

Sasuke had MS because he felt sorrow after his brother died. He was hating Itachi, but after he learnt about his past he appreciated him for what he was. Itachi also transferred his ocular powers to Sasuke so your point s right.

But you left one thing aside. When I replied to you and said that Naruto obtained the the fox from Minato, you said that he also trained to master it.

I could also have said the same thing to you back then. I could have said that he would not have a fox to team up with if it wasn't Minato. But my reply was clearly different.

Exactly, I agree, but Naruto at least trained to mastered his overpowered gift, right? He fight against the Kyuubi and suck up his chakra, in that strange temple in the Turtle-Island. (not to mention FRS and Sage Mode)
Sasuke changed his eye type like 5 times now, training only in Orochimaru's base, where he mastered Tsukuyomi, and nothing else... well done!

 

[Crossroads]

- Gamabunta was not even halping Naruto out when one tails was wrecking havoc and only stayed on the request of a lesser toad, along with his beef with the tailed beast. He would have totally stayed just because Naruto asked him too. Where is your proof that Naruto held back when he stated that he would 'break every bone in Sasuke's body' if that's what it took to drag him back. He broke plenty / Sarcasm. He couldn't back his words. Just stop.

- Correct.

- Sasuke was badly injured from his fight with Itachi and fact both Juugo and himself confirm. He was fatally wounded only ONCE. The stabs according to Bee himself were not lethal. It's as if no one reads the manga on this damn site. His reflexes were not up to the mark and Bee was getting aided by eight tails. A Bijuu is no one power, not Bee's not anyone else's. It was team work on both sides.

In fact, had Sasuke wanted to kill Bee, he was incapacitated for a a few seconds from the time the Genjutsu hit him to the time he recovered. It was enough time to end his life with Chidori; a technique that blew apart an entire hall when he tussled with Raikage. If Bee didn't have eight tails breaking his genjutsu not to mention the transformation, he would have died for sure. Why not consider that?

Also, Sasuke was completely healed by the end of the fight and Bee Chose to run away as according to himself, 'Sasuke is the strongest opponent he has ever fought'. And before you suggest the inevitabily overused reply that he was leaving the village or it was his plan all along, then kindly reread the manga. Bee only decided to act upon this plan following the Kawarimi technique.

- What about Kage Summit? The fact that the Kages fought WITH their Jounins and STILL couldn't kill Sasuke till the last moment when Oonki took a cheap shot? It is exactly the other way around. The guy was just learning to use his MS abilities and still Raikage was nearly killed and Gaara along with four Jounins couldn't put a scratch on Sasuke. Naruto would have been sent home in a match box. Fact.

- That was the least clever tactic out of all. You must be joking. Face it, an Uchiha eye saved Kakashi's behind and after that had Sakura not interfered - another point where Sasuke was facing more than one opponent - Kakashi was dead meat, because he was stumbling and already feeling the affects of MS Kamui use. Look it up. Also Sharingan is Sasuke's KG, just like Hyuga have Byakuan, or Mei has two KGs. I don't think I should even go any further.

- Really, against a near blind individual? Shocker. Naruto was no match for Sasuke then.

My Conclusion, you appear to be a garden variety troll magnet as ALL of those are facts BACKED by scans. What do you have? A bunch of fill-in-the-blanks opinions and dislikes which are not relevant to the discussion. Your 'Pitiful, got a D' etc points CLEARLY elucidate that. Don't **** this thread up.



Kindly prove it that Sasuke has no counter to BM. Let's hear this tale other than 'ZOMG it's manga fact' because it isn't. Let's go.

I'm going to ignore all the incoherent BS that I just read and jump straight to the bold.

1. He can't Amaterasu/Enton Naruto, he is too fast. Ay was able to dodge Amatersu based off speed. Kakashi Kamui'd a Enton arrow. Ay is proof of this, and Naruto is faster than aye. GG
2. We don't know if Sasuke's current Final Susano'o can tank a TBB, we've only seen PS do that. And don't tell me Sasuke has PS, if you do.. provide me with Manga scans.
3. All Naruto has to do is keep his distance from Sauce, spam TBB's and GG.
4. I'm LG Captain.

 

[Transcendence]

I'm going to ignore all the incoherent BS that I just read and jump straight to the bold.

1. He can't Amaterasu/Enton Naruto, he is too fast. Ay was able to dodge Amatersu based off speed. Kakashi Kamui'd a Enton arrow. Ay is proof of this, and Naruto is faster than aye. GG
2. We don't know if Sasuke's current Final Susano'o can tank a TBB, we've only seen PS do that. And don't tell me Sasuke has PS, if you do.. provide me with Manga scans.
3. All Naruto has to do is keep his distance from Sauce, spam TBB's and GG.
4. I'm LG Captain.

Regardless of the Bee fight (in reference to the Bee claim that Shelke made), Sasuke got stomped. He was going to die. He got stabbed and were it not for Taka's intervention he would have died. Not to mention the Lariat demolished his chest and severed his organs. If Juugo didn't infuse his life force with Sasuke he would have died moments later. Come on Shelke... You're better than this.

 

[Psychox]

He is Naruto's rival , so therefore he's SUPPOSE TO BE...