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He had everything:
- A family
- Sharingan bloodline
- Learned a lot of stuff from his dad and itachi
Lets just say, he had a gift within him.
Sasuke was always too overpowered
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He had everything:
Lets just say, he had a gift within him.
Wow, everyone of your points were just wrong and fanboyness. First off, Sasuke needed to eat that pill that the sound 4 gave him in order to get stronger to even fight Naruto at the level that he did. Also you're really using the Naruto using Kurama's power excuse? If Sasuke can use the Sharingan which he got from the Sage then Naruto can use his body which he got from the Sage that he used to hold the Juubi. The Sage passed the sealing of Bijuus down so Naruto using a Bjiuu is equal to Sasuke using his Sharingan. The fight before this, Kakashi had to stop the fight or Naruto would have killed Sasuke as he stated. Also Naruto was using a very small amount of Kurama's power, this is showed in shippuden when he started to use Kurama's power and his eye's turns like Kurama's, nails grows to claws, whiskers gets darker and bigger, and fangs grow since he was able to use more of Kurama's power. Also Sasuke won because at the end Naruto went to scratch Sasuke's headband while Sasuke went for the kill. If Naruto hand for Sasuke's body then the outcoe would be different.
Are you dumb? To even mention when Sasuke first met Naruto in shippuden was really dumb, Naruto went 4 tails and almost killed Orochimaru and Orochimaru had to use his sword (which didn't even pierce 4 tails even tho it's suppose have some power to cut thing) to move Naruto away from him. And everyone saw that Naruto was extremely weakened when he back to normal and this was after Sakura healed him. Naruto showed his weakenness when Sakura injury caused her to fall and Naruto was going to save her but his body wouldn't move as he wanted so Yamato saved her. Naruto fell down while running in Orochimaru's hide out while looking for Sasuke. Then when Kurama was going to give him power Naruto was going to turn it down since Yamato told him about him hurting Sakura but Sasuke came and did it for him. So yes Sasuke was stronger than a weakened Naruto who nearly killed Orochimaru who sasuke couldn't do until Orochirmaru got sicker and weaker... Also no Karin did not do anything to Susanoo, Itachi was still forming it. Also Karin hits a single Target (targets close together can be hurt) and this is shown by the fact that Sasuke was a couple of feets from Itachi yet he wasn't hit by the blast.
In his fight with Bee, Bee owned Sasuke so badly without him being serious. Sasuke kick him in the neck and Bee didn't even move, just started to write in his rap book. Bee sword attack killed Sasuke, but that's in a solo fight but Sasuke got saved by Karin healing him. Then when Sasuke tried fighting Bee alone again he got his chest blown off and got saved by Juugo. Sasuke didn't even know he could use Amaterasu, all he know was that Itachi planted a trap that made him use it if he saw Obito's Sharingan and t was most likely a 1 time thing since who needs 2 hits trap for Amaterasu? Sasuke awakened his own Amaterasu by remembering how he felt to be apart of a team (showed flashbacks of team 7) and that's when he used Amaterasu. Then Bee used his smarts by attacking Karin with a tentacle which Bee Escaped with. Sasuke had no idea that Bee escaped until Obito told him so if Bee wanted to he could had killed them all with another tbb since Suigetsui diverted Bee's first blast by using the water around them to form a huge body of water which left him k.o. Bee allowed Sasuke and Taka to live is all.
Trying to Say Sasuke was tired from travelling to the Kage summit? ALL of the Kages travelled there the same way from a longer distance! Kage Summit is in the middle of all 5 nations. Also it was Sasuke, Juugo and Suigetsu vs A for the beginning until A's body guards joined even tho A didn't need it. And no Sasuke did not beat A, A was going to kill Sasuke with his leg drop until Gaara came and stopped A saying he want's to talk to Sasuke (meaning if A was going to die then he still could have talked to Sasuke but that's not the case) and said A would have lost a leg, never said A would have died meaning Sasuke would have died. And No Sasuke did not fight 2 kages, he never fought Gaara, Gaara only block enton attacks then Sasuke ran away. White Zetsu was replenishing Sasuke chakra while also draining the kage's chakra after Mei tried to kill sasuke so Sasuke received more chakra and was about to be killed by Ohnoki's dust element then Karin started to heal Sasuke for more than 5 minutes since Obito was talking to the kages, then fought and captured Danzo's guards then released Sasuke. No Sasuke wasn't at full power but he was around 80% power and Danzo stated he was holding back to save chakra incase Obito attacked after his fight with Sasuke.
You used Kakashi using his Sharingan/Kamui to avoid Sasuke's arrow as luck? what do you call Sasuke being saved from A's attacks with Susanoo? Luck as well. Sasuke not dying when Bee stabbed him but being healed my Karin? Lucky. Bee blowing off Sasuke's chest and Juugo saving him? lucky. Obito saving him from Ohnoki's Jinton jutsu? Lucky.
Clearly you can't read Sakura had the chance to kill Sasuke but couldn't make herself do it and froze. This get Sasuke the time to sense her and grab her. Naruto and Sasuke didn't even fight, only clashed chidori and rasengan which Naruto did to read Sasuke's heart and vice versa. Naruto even said this afterwards saying they would both die if they fought. clearly by the fact that Naruto never charged Sasuke showed Naruto was talking about after they both got stronger. He even said he needs to gain control over Kurama's power meaning he knew Sasuke was going to obtain more power as well.
Sasuke is a cool character but people like you make others dislike him or dislike him more than they might have before.
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It Sickens me when people get on here claiming to be unbiased about something when they themselves haven't proof read what they typed. theres a ass load of Bias in your thread. i Also Hate when people make Naruto seem like an Idiot or weak. The guy has countless times shown that he can be very tactical/ Analytic in fights. He thinks fast on his toes( Pain Fight/ Juubito Fight/). Although he is not up there with Minato , Itachi Shikamaru,and Kakashi. Hes Damn well near. Just a bit too eager to jump into fights. Other than that and his goofiness. Naruto is a Very smart Person.
Sasuke on the other hand on most occasions does not think things through much. it will come to his attention that he may be facing an Obstacle. but instead of look around for answers, he and his Anger at the world because hes the only one whos ever lost a FCKEN brother or Sibling in the Naruto World(sarcasm) to fuel his Power and he Just Tackles shovels his way through.( what ive noticed).
Naruto Would Decimate Sasuke. Sasuke isnt OverPowered, Hes Overrated. and you make it seem like naruto Wished for the 9 tail fox on his birthday or something. It was Given to Him Against His Will and even wished he'd never have gotten it , Unlike Sasuke who takes pride in his "Ocular talents" Hes always looked forward to having or getting since he could fathom the words " Nee chan".
Sasuke is Pathethic And there is No way he Can take On Naruto at this point in time. with of his techs at ALL..
Sasuke on the other hand on most occasions does not think things through much. it will come to his attention that he may be facing an Obstacle. but instead of look around for answers, he and his Anger at the world because hes the only one whos ever lost a FCKEN brother or Sibling in the Naruto World(sarcasm) to fuel his Power and he Just Tackles shovels his way through.( what ive noticed).
Naruto Would Decimate Sasuke. Sasuke isnt OverPowered, Hes Overrated. and you make it seem like naruto Wished for the 9 tail fox on his birthday or something. It was Given to Him Against His Will and even wished he'd never have gotten it , Unlike Sasuke who takes pride in his "Ocular talents" Hes always looked forward to having or getting since he could fathom the words " Nee chan".
Sasuke is Pathethic And there is No way he Can take On Naruto at this point in time. with of his techs at ALL..
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iNotorious said:
I never said A cared or not, just that both of them were ready to face their end. A was blinded by fury thus tried to take Sasuke down at the cost of his life. Don’t make it look like Sasuke was in a bigger trouble by saying that A did not care. A did not care, but this does not change the facts. Gaara saved both of them.
A was killing Sasuke if Gaara was not stopping them? Yes.
Sasuke was killing A if Gaara was not stopping them? Yes, but you seem to be so focused on A killing his opponent and Gaara saving Sasuke to notice that they both have been saved. If A was going to make the sacrifice it does not matter at all, facts are facts. Sasuke expanded the enton
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1. A family? Maybe he was a part of a family that had a blood line, but that was your second point so let’s first discuss this one. You see, his family was……. Need I say more?
2. He had, as Naruto was an Uzumaki and had a strong life force so he could be a very good host for a tailed beast.
3. When he was young from his father he only learned the fire jutsu and from Itachi ninja skills. After that he got some of Itachi’s visual powers, but do you really think that Itachi gave him any instruction? Sasuke learned by himself how to use them. Check his fights with Bee, A, Gaara and Danzo.
There were plenty from Uchiha clan that died being unnamed, thus being only fodder. Being from a certain clan doesn’t necessarily mean that you will be at a level.
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I have never used Kurama as an excuse, I just stated that Sasuke won against a Naruto helped by Kurama. The elder son gained the eyes of the sage and the young gained the body. The descendants of the elder son were the Uchiha and of the younger were the Senju; this is stated in the manga. Naruto is Uzumaki, a clan that has a strong life force thus they can be very good tailed beasts hosts. Sasuke did tell Naruto that he will not be even able to scratch his headband. When they confronted for the first time, Naruto could not beat Sasuke, but was at least able to scratch him.
Naruto did not had too much time to fight Sasuke then, but he completely owned Sai and Yamato. And Sakura….no point in mentioning her anyway….. Saying that Naruto nearly killed Orochimaru is erroneous. Orochimaru cornered him, he could have won. Kirin destroyed Susano’o. After Itachi was hit, his Susano’o had to reform. Itachi avoiding Kirin without using Susano’o was not possible then. You also skipped the part when Sasuke is reeady to finish Naruto, Sakura, Yamato and Sai with Kirin.
Sasuke went easy on Bee. His goal was to capture him alive. Bee also went easy for the first part of the fight. To say that Sasuke got killed by that it the most funny thing I read today. If you would have read the thread someone already said here that the wounds Bee caused were not lethal. THis topic is old. If Sasuke was not healed by Karin, it was not a big problem. Sasuke finished Bee by amaterasu, he needed only his eyes for it. I have mentioned about Sasuke getting fatally injured by Bee when he used his cloak. After putting Bee in genjutsu Sasuke had like 4 seconds to finish off Bee. I said it in my OP, “Sasuke let his guard down so Bee injured him”. Bee escaped being forced to do so. After being covered by amaterasu his tentacle was cut by Sasuke, thus Bee escaped. Why did Bee run? He could still get out of the water and fight. Don’t come with that excuse about him letting them win. He did not come out from the sake of his life. Do you really think Bee was not aware about the fact that Sasuke would use amaterasu on him? Even if Sasuke did not have enough chackra to use amaterasu Bee had no way to know.
A did not need his body guards when along with them they were overpowered by the enemy? Good one. Sasuke was just learning how to use his MS, and all could not take him out him until Oonoki got a lucky shot? A would have been completely covered by amaterasu since Sasuke expanded it
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. Gaara saved both of them. Sasuke did not run away, he made half of the building to crumble upon them. His target was Danzo after all. He did not fight them? What about this page? He make all of their attacks completely useless
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. In my OP I did not state Sasuke beat all the five kages. Susano’o is Sasuke’s jutsu from his sharingan, a blood line limit. A non Uchiha getting a sgaringan seems pretty normal and not even lucky? Not to mention that he was unable to use it at its full potential then. An Uchiha eye saved Kakashi. There are more people who have a blood line so Sasuke having his is normal. Oonoki was at full power and Sasuke faced some opponents until then, the chackra he got from Zetsu was not that much really, he was clearly still tired
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.Sakura lost the chance to kill him, but as I said, she was unable to kill him. If you cannot control your feelings you really cannot be a good ninja. In a fight all the aspects are important. After Naruto and Sasuke clashed they read their hearts, but they did not do it for this purpose. Sasuke attacked them and Kakashi was going to face Sasuke and Naruto just wanted to do the things himself. If you look at the manga their clash was pretty strong.
Brusky said:
Actually it was always Sasuke > Naruto in strategic skills. Even from his fight with the guy from the part two of the exams this has been proven. In their last fight in part one, Sasuke used more strategy than Naruto.
Sasuke used his intelligence in battles countless times, like with Deidara, A and Danzo. Only in his battle with Bee he did not use any.
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Naruto does this pretty much. He figured out the third Raikage’s secret only after failing to damage his body with his own techniques. He even asked the eight tails to help him. But in the end Naruto made a very sharp observation, we must admit.
In his fight with Edo Nagato he used his ninjutsu this after he remembered that Nagato can absorb it.
Naruto can make good strategies, but do not put him above Sasuke at this.
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A wall of text trying to cover the shitty content within.GTFO stupid wanker.
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Couldn't care about the rest, but Hana is not a misspelling, but an actual name. Great that you are a fan of Hannah Montana. Just when I thought you couldn't get any worse as an individual.
Madara's swords ARE shown to be much weaker than the actual structure. If you are STILL unaware of this and are passing it off as a speculation, then I couldn't care less about convincing you. And what you are doing is what? Hardcore fact, right? There is no proof to your statement as well. NONE.
Proof? I see, again there is no proof of Naruto managing it other than a WILD speculation. Thought so.
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In the fights??? You call that training?? Really? He learned how to use them in the fight, he NEVER trained to unlock those powers by himself, like Itachi did, he got them from his Ni-san, never worked as hard as Naruto did to develop Sage Mode, or unlocking and controlling Biju Mode.
Naruto did received Kyuubi from his father, but at least he trained hard to control the powers he was given, and develop other ones...
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Keimil said:
Sasuke just learns fast. Naruto trains and then goes to fight while Sasuke goes to fight and masters his abilities there. While Naruto stained for Sage Mode, Sasuke perfected his Amaterasu and Susano'o during his fights. Pretty impressive, right?
Just because Naruto learns slow he has a hard time training. If Naruto had MS he would probably go blind while training to use its skills.
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The point isn't how fast Sasuke learns, the point is he didn't earned those techniques the way Itachi did... he didn't unlock them by himself, he was given those powers by his brother, then he just learned to use those jutsus in fights, but he never trained to develop them by his own....
Naruto got only the Kyuubi, and great masters, the rest is just product of his hard work.
I can show you lots of manga scans where Naruto is training, but not even one of Sasuke training to develop Amaterasu, Susan'o or Enton...
PD: Naruto don't learn slow, actually he has been told to develop techniques much more faster than the actual creator of the jutsu, this happened with Rasengan and Sage Mode.
The fact Sasuke keeps getting power ups already developed by someone else from heaven, doesn't make him a fast learner...
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Keimil said:
All that Itachi gave Sasuke was the Amaterasu to one shot Tobi. When it activated it was shown Itachi's MS patters.
Sasuke has awakened his abilities by himself in his fights. Even if he was not having Amaterasu like Itachi did, he would have had another powerful technique. Susanoo is also something that all MS users who have both of their eyes had.
Sasuke had to learn how to use them fast, else he would have gone blind.
Sasuke was always a fast-learner. Amaterasu was not developed by anyone else, it was by him.
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Lord Sasuke is awesome...
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Canon:
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.It also doesn't specified that he only implanted Amaterasu, Tobi said "jutsu".
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It also doesn't specified that he only implanted Amaterasu, Tobi said "jutsu".
You are a fayggott noob, that was just a one shot, hence the reason why his MS took the form of Itachi's mangekyou.
Go somewhere else narutard.
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Keimil said:
Generally it does not sound, but in this case it was like this. “The Amaterasu that Itachi implanted into you” and “Ever planning for a situation like this” show us that Itachi planned to do this in order to get rid of Tobi.
Even if Sasuke was not ending up with Amaterasu, he would certainly had a different ability from his MS.
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No, sorry, i won't... That scan was canon, and you are just angry that i am right
Why it does now?? Just because you say so? I am quoting Tobi again: "He equipped you with his own jutsu as a last ditch-effort to kill me", he did implanted Amaterasu, and he did set it to strike Tobi on the firsts sight, but it doesn't mean he didn't get Amaterasu from his brother, nor any other from Itachi's jutsu...
And yes, I know what Tobirama said about the Uchiha's love, but we cannot omit this manga scan either...
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Keimil said:
Not because I say so, because this is hot it was. Else his eye when it attacked Tobi would not have had Itachi's MS pattern.
Even if Sasuke was not having Amaterasu like his brother, his MS would have had an unique MS ability.
It is even said that the Susanoo is the third power
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. One of Sasuke's powers is Amaterasu, if it was not it, he would have had something different.