So how exactly is this even an issue for Hinata? She'd be able to intercept Sakura jumping to use this attack with Air Palm and stop her from even using it and even she manages to land it, Hinata can just jump to avoid it like any normal ninja would.
Anyways, that's not a shock wave, its a dust cloud. And I don't even see how a shock wave would kill anyone anyways, especially when many Juubi Clones that weren't hit directly survived the shock wave.
Kurotsuchi is weak, she has little to no offensive abilities, and anything she can muster up will be seen by Hinata's byakugan as the Chakra builds up, allowing her to dodge easily.
i was talking about your posts in general
you mean the fanfiction you made :lol you really believe people need to counter bs you whip out of nowhere just becoz you fanboy over hinata
Pointing out a misunderstanding? CE Neji can still refer to when he fought Hinata :lol Calm down.
I have only one question. Why are you arguing that with just one touch Neji could turn off chidori when it took him several to stop Hinata's gentle fist?
Doesn't matter because no one said he would outmaneuver Neji, slip past his defenses and strike him directly. Not sure what's so hard to understand about that.
Doesn't matter because no one said Sasuke canb litz Neji.
so stop saying that Sasuke can track his movements and nail him, since even with 2T and Lee's speed he couldn't maneuver base Naruto who is inferior to Neji in reflexes, and I know that Naruto was able to clash with him because of the rasengan, but still. Neji's reflexes and reaction speed >> Naruto's
But does that mean he can react well enough to block the points in Sasuke's arm? No. So until you can support that assertion your argument will continue to be based on nothing.
fact, Neji can react to base Lee's striking speed. Sasuke's striking speed is a copy-paste of Lee's striking speed so he can react to it. and Chidori is just a linear attack, so if he dodged it he should have a chance to strike his arm. similar to what sage mode Naruto did with the third Raikage
Nope. Being able to react=/=Being able to react well enough to do the bold. Neji being able to hit Sasuke because he has striking speed superior to Naruto doesn't matter because Naruto can't come close to doing what you think is possible either.
Which is also correct but it doesn't matter because that doesn't mean Neji can do what you say he can do.
Lmao you're saying two completely different things here. Regardless. You've yet to show that Neji can react well enough to counter Chidori so until you can do that your argument has no backing. None at all.
Irrelevant. Neji being able to react doesn't mean that he can react well enough to counter.
if he can react to Sasuke's striking speed so why he wouldn't be able to react to Chidori ?
Chidori is a hand to hand attack , take away the lightning Chakra and the built up to the max running speed and you get a basic open palmed physical thrust attack. Hand to hand attacks does not consist of not only punches , its a palm thrust or chop.
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The lightning does only add some inches of reach which makes it much more dangerous than a normal thrust, but Neji has the reflexes and the reaction speed to dodge it. and in worst scenarios Neji can just emit a wide arc of Chakra like this but on a smaller scale
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Tho its SRA this is a ability that CE Neji was capable of since he had all the requirements.
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Neji can move freely inside this arc to increase reaction
If Neji is counter attacking then he is attacking thus that is something for Sasuke to react to. :lol Not gonna talk about Neji dodging until you can show that he can.
Same chakra=/=Same amount. Whether you were comparing CE and VoTe doesn't matter. The fact that VoTE is superior means that you can't take VoTE Naruto's feats and apply them to CE Naruto. CE Naruto on his own does NOT have feats surpassing what Lee and Sasuke have done to Gaara's Sand unless you'd like to show me those speed feats.
Since Sasuke/Lee have superior feats, they are faster. That simple.
Then go get me scans of KN0 being able to do something on par with outspeeding Gaara's auto sand and you'll have a point
and what suggest that Gaara's sand is fast to begin with ? what CE Kn0 Naruto did to Neji proves by itself that he is superior. since Lee's needed the gates high speed to be able to counter Neji's striking speed
and CE kn0 Naruto has caused cracks on the ground just by running
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Nope. This doesn't make sense. What is shown, stated and implied is that Neji can react to Base Lee well enough to defeat him in Taijutsu. It's not stated, shown or implied that Neji is fast enough to consistently avoid Base Lee's top speed. His reaction against Naruto is a reaction that would've ended in Lee's defeat because Lee doesn't have the firepower to break through Rotation. What does this mean?
Oh yes, that Neji's reaction speed as it is is enough to REACT to Base Lee and defeat him. This does NOT apply to Sasuke because Sasuke has a different moveset.
-Did he react to Naruto? Yes. Thus this point is wrong.
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How the hell are these feats that show he can avoid Chidori? I've seen like 90 posts with this same scan, when Sasuke was blitzing Gaara and Naruto KN0 and all couldn't do shit to him speed wise.
Everything there is normal. Sakura needs to jump to use the attack, Air Palm can intercept her like how Hinata did with the Wooden Spike. And 611 showed all the alliance jumping super high, so the mountain crusher attack is worthless.
:lol this what happens when you underrate chars with little feats that can overwhelm char like hinata who themself have no solid feat
>Accuses me of underrating characters
>Says Hinata has no feats.
You are walking irony.
Anyways, yeah, Kurotsuchi barely has any feats of any noteworthiness. And like I said, all her techs are water/cement types, which she launches out of her mouth. Hinata could see these coming by the Chakra build up and dodge them, or destroy them with Gentle fist. Her reflexes would be more than enough to do this with her 64 Palms feat, and being able to react to a wooden spike and the Juubi's hand, and her Byakugan's slow-motion vision.
yeah if there was even a little ounce of brain in you then you would have realised i said the same thing on this thread too [
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]until Jay SixPaths13 pointed out ce sasuke's reaction and such piss poor argument from LB;hakke and you convinced me that neji's chances of winning it is far lower than sasuke's :lol
oh and lemme tell you neosmith would present 100 times better argument than all 3 of you combined in favor of neji :lol
yeah if there was even a little ounce of brain in you then you would have realised i said the same thing on this thread too [
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]until Jay SixPaths13 pointed out ce sasuke's reaction and such piss poor argument from LB;hakke and you convinced me that neji's chances of winning it is far lower than sasuke's :lol
oh and lemme tell you neosmith would present 100 times better argument than all 3 of you combined in favor of neji :lol
so stop saying that Sasuke can track his movements and nail him, since even with 2T and Lee's speed he couldn't maneuver base Naruto who is inferior to Neji in reflexes, and I know that Naruto was able to clash with him because of the rasengan, but still. Neji's reflexes and reaction speed >> Naruto's
No one ever said he would. I actually specifically stated in that post you just quoted that he doesn't, which you would've known if you actually read before responding. So you can stop arguing against imaginary points now. It makes you look ridiculous.
fact, Neji can react to base Lee's striking speed. Sasuke's striking speed is a copy-paste of Lee's striking speed so he can react to it. and Chidori is just a linear attack, so if he dodged it he should have a chance to strike his arm. similar to what sage mode Naruto did with the third Raikage
Who said he can't react to Chidori? lmao. Learn to read.
Chidori is a hand to hand attack , take away the lightning Chakra and the built up to the max running speed and you get a basic open palmed physical thrust attack. Hand to hand attacks does not consist of not only punches , its a palm thrust or chop.
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The lightning does only add some inches of reach which makes it much more dangerous than a normal thrust, but Neji has the reflexes and the reaction speed to dodge it. and in worst scenarios Neji can just emit a wide arc of Chakra like this but on a smaller scale
Irrelevant. Skills mattering=/=Skills being the only factor.
and what suggest that Gaara's sand is fast to begin with ? what CE Kn0 Naruto did to Neji proves by itself that he is superior. since Lee's needed the gates high speed to be able to counter Neji's striking speed
Lmao. So now because you can't prove your point honestly you've resorted to stuff like this? Gaara's Sand is fast because Rock Lee needed to take his weights off to do what he did in the first place.
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Lee w/ his weights on is still easily faster than any Shinobi of his age range as he can legit blitz Sasuke with no reaction, yet this same Lee couldn't get around Gaara's sand defense until he took off his weights.
Naruto didn't counter Neji's striking speed so mentioning his feat and saying he accomplished more than what Lee could accomplish doesn't matter. Just like 99% of the stuff you posted. Lmao where the hell do you even see Neji strike to have his striking speed countered in the first place? All you see is that Neji is too slow to complete a rotation. Stop acting like you don't know how to read please.
and CE kn0 Naruto has caused cracks on the ground just by running
Irrelevant. That was caused by the power of his chakra. Don't grasp at straws. It's already fact that VoTE KN0 is faster yet VoTE KN0 never makes these cracks. KCM in Part 2 doesn't even damage the ground like this by running so using it to measure speed makes zero sense.
actually Neji didn't need Kaiten to defeat base Lee. but base Lee needed Gates to counter Neji's striking speed
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it wasn't until the two months break till Neji mastered Kaiten
Irrelevant. Did I say that Neji needed Kaiten to defeat Base Lee? No. I said what Neji did against Naruto is enough to defeat Base Lee, so saying Naruto accomplished more thus he is faster doesn't help your point.
Facts:
-Lee is fast enough to blitz Gaara and evade his sand shield.
-Sasuke is just as fast as Lee.
-Naruto during the Chunnin Exams has no feat on that level. What he did against Neji is not on that level. No comparison whatsoever.
I also want all of you guys to answer Tazilla's question:
I have only one question. Why are you arguing that with just one touch Neji could turn off chidori when it took him several to stop Hinata's gentle fist?
This is a weak argument. Sasuke not explicitly using it against Neji or someone like him does not mean he can't. Likewise, PS hasn't killed anyone yet no one in their right mind can say it can't do that. These types of arguments are desperate ones and I've seen people say since Temari hasn't sliced anyone in half with her fuuton, she can't do so even though overwhelming evidence from the manga leads most to believe other wise.
I have only one question. Why are you arguing that with just one touch Neji could turn off chidori when it took him several to stop Hinata's gentle fist?
This is a weak argument. Sasuke not explicitly using it against Neji or someone like him does not mean he can't. Likewise, PS hasn't killed anyone yet no one in their right mind can say it can't do that. These types of arguments are desperate ones and I've seen people say since Temari hasn't sliced anyone in half with her fuuton, she can't do so even though overwhelming evidence from the manga leads most to believe other wise.
I was asking this sarcastically since this is what he requested of me. Was told there is no Neji dodging chidori feats so I responded asking for Sasuke hitting Neji with Chidori feats OR hitting a moving targets.
My entire argument is based on Neji dodging or evading Chidori and showed scans of Neji's agility. Was told those scans are "irrelevant" since its not sasuke lol so I responded with that same mindset sarcastically.
No one ever said he would. I actually specifically stated in that post you just quoted that he doesn't, which you would've known if you actually read before responding. So you can stop arguing against imaginary points now. It makes you look ridiculous.
I remember when you said in this thread that "if Neji tried to evade, Sasuke would track his movements and nail him"
I just want to point out that this would not happen here since Sasuke w/ 2T and Lee's speed couldn't maneuver Naruto so he would not be able to do so with Neji. and Chidori is just a linear attack once Neji dodge it then it is simply over
Nope. SRA Neji is not CE Neji so don't even try to give him his feats.
CE Neji has the ability to release Chakra from all his tenketsu and control it since he mastered kaiten [
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he can use this wide arc of chakra to increase his reaction
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Irrelevant. Skills mattering=/=Skills being the only factor.
it is not the only factor but it is still a big factor. because the more skilled you are in Taijutsu the better you are in striking and grappling, and the better you are in grappling, the easier for you to apply maneuvers/counters to an opponent to gain a physical advantage in hand to hand combat
Lmao. So now because you can't prove your point honestly you've resorted to stuff like this? Gaara's Sand is fast because Rock Lee needed to take his weights off to do what he did in the first place.
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Lee w/ his weights on is still easily faster than any Shinobi of his age range as he can legit blitz Sasuke with no reaction, yet this same Lee couldn't get around Gaara's sand defense until he took off his weights.
and how does that prove that Lee's w/o weights is faster than CE Kn0 Naruto ?
-Lee w/o weights is fast enough to blitz Gaara and evade his sand shield. but Lee w/o weights canonically needed Ura Renge in order to beat a Neji w/o Kaiten in Taijutsu.
-Kn0 Naruto has the feat of pushing CE Neji to use Kaiten
-Neji didn't need Kaiten to beat Lee who already knew how open the first gate which greatly enhances combat speed , then it means Prelims Neji at best could physically react well enough to
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, which means that Prelims Neji's reaction and reflex in CQC would have to be at a decent level in order to beat Lee enhanced by initial lotus w/o Kaiten as that Lee would be obviously much faster than his Base self in every way
-Sasuke is just as fast as Base Lee w/o 1st Gate. CE Neji is superior to Prelims Neji who could react well enough to 1st Gate Lee's enhanced combat attack speed good enough to not get outperformed in Taijutsu w/o Kaiten and to always easily dominate him to the point of believing Lee stood zero chance.
-Neji's reflexes and striking speed was hyped by Kakashi and Hiruzen , then Gai and Lee cements it that prelims Neji would easily react to and counter any Taijutsu tech from Lee bar Ura renge w/o Kaiten.
Naruto didn't counter Neji's striking speed so mentioning his feat and saying he accomplished more than what Lee could accomplish doesn't matter. Just like 99% of the stuff you posted. Lmao where the hell do you even see Neji strike to have his striking speed countered in the first place? All you see is that Neji is too slow to complete a rotation. Stop acting like you don't know how to read please.
Irrelevant. Did I say that Neji needed Kaiten to defeat Base Lee? No. I said what Neji did against Naruto is enough to defeat Base Lee, so saying Naruto accomplished more thus he is faster doesn't help your point.
I didn't say that Naruto countered Neji's striking speed. the point is that Lee needed Ura renge to beat Neji since Neji would be able to counter his speed with his reflexes and striking speed. and since all neji needs is a slight touch. so the key to defeat Neji w/o Kaiten was a speed combo that can't be touched.
if what you said was true. if Lee w/o weights was faster or as fast as CE Kurama enhanced Naruto then Lee wouldn't even needed the Gates to defeat Neji w/o Kaiten. since one fast kick or strike would send him flying
CE Kn0 Naruto dashed so fast to the point that Neji, even with his reflexes and striking speed, could not counter, and was forced to release Chakra
that feat proves that CE Kn0 Naruto >> Sasuke/Lee in terms of speed
Irrelevant. That was caused by the power of his chakra. Don't grasp at straws. It's already fact that VoTE KN0 is faster yet VoTE KN0 never makes these cracks. KCM in Part 2 doesn't even damage the ground like this by running so using it to measure speed makes zero sense.
Agreed. but I think that he caught Neji off guard . I mean just look to the bottom left panel where Naruto's Chakra flares up and also look at Neji in the same panel.
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then look at the following scan where Neji is shown with an exclamation mark to show his surprise on the upper right panel here.
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but I am not sure though
Facts:
-Lee is fast enough to blitz Gaara and evade his sand shield.
-Sasuke is just as fast as Lee.
-Naruto with Kurama chakra during the Chunnin Exams has shown feats above that level. What he did against Neji was above that level.
Neji can react to Lee's w/o weights striking speed let alone 1st gate enhanced Lee. meaning he can dodge/counter his strikes, so he would be able to do so with Sasuke whose striking speed is just a copy-paste of base Lee's.
Chidori is just a normal palm thrust with the user's own striking speed. the only thing it adds to the game is that the lighting add a few inches of reach. that's it
Neji had the reflexes, skills, reaction speed to easily dominate base Lee w/o the weights and Lee clearly stated that he needed Ura renge to defeat him. so he would be at least be able to dodge Chidori (a palm thrust with few extra inches of reach) and counter it.
and in worst scenarios he can release Chakra to enhance his reaction
so why Neji would not be able to dodge it exactly ?
also he doesn't even need to dodge it to counter it. he can just grab Sasuke's arm (the same way Kakashi did) and channeling some Jyuken to disable it
I also want all of you guys to answer Tazilla's question:
I have only one question. Why are you arguing that with just one touch Neji could turn off chidori when it took him several to stop Hinata's gentle fist?
Neji simply sending Jyuken through the Chakra networking running through the arm is enough to destabilize Chidori. Like what he did when he sent Chakra from his finger through Hinata's headband all the way to multiple organs with a single finger touch not even directly on the areas the organs were located.
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He doesn't need multiple hits as this same thing can happen to the network streams running through the arm. It doesn't even matter because a palm touch would have a similar result.
but this method only disrupt the Jutsu but the enemy would still be able to channel Chakra to his hands. but blocking Chakra points is another story since it stops the Chakra flow . disabling the hand completely.
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but Neji doesn't need to block the Chakra points here since he can just inject Chakra through the Chakra streams in Sasuke's arm to destabilize Chidori along with causing internal damage and GG Sasuke
Lmao don't troll she beats him
Neosmith didn't clear anything out on that
With katsuyu that goes low diff.
just becoz people like you try to compare kidomaru's jutsu to kaguya's ain't changing anything;you wanking air palm and 64 palms as something godly when they are not isn't changing anything either
Yes your posts are trash since skills is never the only factor which you like to spam
