Sasuke vs. Minato

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Location: Dense Forrest

Distance: 20 Meters

Intel: Full

Intent: To Kill

Restrictions: Kurama

Scenario 1: Hebi Sasuke vs. Base Alive Minato(No FTG Kunai)

Scenario 2: MS Sasuke(All MS Sasuke Feats, Perfect Eyesight) vs. Base Alive Minato

Scenario 3: EMS Sasuke(All Feats and Jugo) vs. KCM Minato w/ Sage Mode for 1 Attack

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Minato destroys Sasuke in the first scenario, beats him in the second scenario, and loses in the last one. Senjutsu Perfect Susanoo obliterates him.
 

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I might humor you with a real response later on, if I feel like repeating what many others have repeated, only to be ignored by those who foolishly claim "EMS Sasuke has no PS".
It makes sense that PS would be one of his Rinnegan power ups. If he and Noodles are so equal, Sauce wouldn't have just his body flicker type technique where as Noodles have TSB, numerous elements, KKG, flying ability, and jesus healing. I think Sauce got the body flicker type technique, winged PS, and possibly immune to ever genjutsu that existed since IT didn't affect him. I could be wrong hey, but thats just what I believe.
 

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It makes sense that PS would be one of his Rinnegan power ups. If he and Noodles are so equal, Sauce wouldn't have just his body flicker type technique where as Noodles have TSB, numerous elements, KKG, flying ability, and jesus healing. I think Sauce got the body flicker type technique, winged PS, and possibly immune to ever genjutsu that existed since IT didn't affect him. I could be wrong hey, but thats just what I believe.
No it doesn't. Susanoo is an MS technique. Why would the highest level of Susanoo come only when you have the Rinnegan? Why would you need the Senju's power to awaken the Rinnegan, and to awaken PS when Indra is the first user of PS, and he didn't have a Rinnegan, he had a Sharingan. Madara used Perfect Susanoo, with a Sharingan, not a Rinnegan. And equality isn't established by the amount of jutsu, its established by the strength of those jutsu. Most of the new jutsu he got won't even scratch Susanoo.

Sasuke armored Perfect Susanoo onto Kurama, in the manga. So this isn't even debatable.
 

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No it doesn't. Susanoo is an MS technique. Why would the highest level of Susanoo come only when you have the Rinnegan? Why would you need the Senju's power to awaken the Rinnegan, and to awaken PS when Indra is the first user of PS, and he didn't have a Rinnegan, he had a Sharingan. Madara used Perfect Susanoo, with a Sharingan, not a Rinnegan. And equality isn't established by the amount of jutsu, its established by the strength of those jutsu. Most of the new jutsu he got won't even scratch Susanoo.

Sasuke armored Perfect Susanoo onto Kurama, in the manga. So this isn't even debatable.
If it was PS they would have had huge tengu wings and would have been flying. It if it was PS it would have two swords like Madara's PS has and had when it fused with Kurama, or like Sauce's PS has. Your right, this isn't even debatable.
 

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If it was PS they would have had huge tengu wings and would have been flying. It if it was PS it would have two swords like Madara's PS has and had when it fused with Kurama, or like Sauce's PS has. Your right, this isn't even debatable.
Madara has no wings on his PS, nor did he fly. So that's irrelevant.

Lol, all that means is that Sasuke's PS DOESN'T have two swords. Since when was having two swords and wings requirements for the Susanoo to be Perfect Susanoo? Are we making our own stuff up now?

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Anyone who looks at this image and says that Sasuke doesn't have Perfect Susanoo needs to stop posting on this, or any other, forum. Case and point.
 

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Madara has no wings on his PS, nor did he fly. So that's irrelevant.

Lol, all that means is that Sasuke's PS DOESN'T have two swords. Since when was having two swords and wings requirements for the Susanoo to be Perfect Susanoo? Are we making our own stuff up now?

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Anyone who looks at this image and says that Sasuke doesn't have Perfect Susanoo needs to stop posting on this, or any other, forum. Case and point.
There is no need to insult anyone. Hey Kidgamer, where are its wings? Sasuke's PS has wings right, or nah?

I spy with my little eye... two swords. I think Sauce's PS does have two, unlike your premise that it doesn't.

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There is no need to insult anyone. Hey Kidgamer, where are its wings? Sasuke's PS has wings right, or nah?

I spy with my little eye... two swords. I think Sauce's PS does have two, unlike your premise that it doesn't.

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I didn't insult you.

Lol, all that means is:

1. Hagoromo's buff let him get wings.

2. He only gets the wings in stabilized form.

3. The buff gave him two swords.

You're taking a Susanoo from two different versions of Sasuke and using the advanced version to try and say that the weaker version isn't Perfect Susanoo. Like I said, look at the image and tell me its not PS, then I'll know not to take you seriously.
 

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I didn't insult you.

Lol, all that means is:

1. Hagoromo's buff let him get wings.

2. He only gets the wings in stabilized form.

3. The buff gave him two swords.

You're taking a Susanoo from two different versions of Sasuke and using the advanced version to try and say that the weaker version isn't Perfect Susanoo. Like I said, look at the image and tell me its not PS, then I'll know not to take you seriously.
You just said yourself

Susanoo is an MS technique. Why would the highest level of Susanoo come only when you have the Rinnegan?
So why would Sasuke's PS need to reach its highest level of power with the Rinnegan if its just an MS technique? (wings, plus an extra sword as you say). Now your just stumbling over yourself, bro. This is getting dull :|
 

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You just said yourself



So why would Sasuke's PS need to reach its highest level of power with the Rinnegan if its just an MS technique? (wings, plus an extra sword as you say). Now your just stumbling over yourself, bro. This is getting dull :|
Now you're twisting my words. I said why would he need Rinnegan to reach the highest level of Susanoo? I never said that Perfect Susanoo can't be improved nor did I say its at its full power the moment you get it, which it obviously can do considering its made of nothing but the user's chakra. Sasuke obtained half of Hagoromo's power, all of his Yin Chakra. So naturally Susanoo is going to get a buff. The Rinnegan itself has little to nothing to do with it.
 
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